Why did you do that?

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#51
ufgatorfan97 said:
Only problem there is were weren't favored by "a massive amount". #2 and #6 teams in the country, probably a 7 point spread. No where near 27, eh?
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I think the spread was somewhere around 20 despite the closeness in rankings. Nobody gave UT much of a chance in that game.
 
#52
#52
AFL2008 said:
Based on opinions I've read on here, I thought vols fans were expecting the defense to be equal to or better than 2008.

I don't understand how people don't feel like the defense was relatively dominant. UT didn't give up a play over what, 35 yards all year long?

The unit only gave up 2.79 YPC which is good for 5th nationally. They only gave up 263 yards per game and 16.75 PPG. They were #27 in red zone defense, #45 in 3rd down conversion defense. And its not like people could pass on this D either. They allowed 8 TD and gained 17 INT and were #11 in pass efficiency defense in 2008.

This unit was tied for #17 in the country last year gaining 17 INTS. Tennessee only allowed 20 TD's all year. Only 3 teams did better. Even Florida allowed more TD's...

I really don't understand why Vols fans didn't absolutely love their defense last year. It was solid. If Tennessee had had even an average offense, Fulmer would still be there because UT would have won 10 games easy last year.

So I just don't get the lack of love for the 2008 defense.
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Go back and watch the 4th quarter of the UT/UCLA game? That will tell you everything that you need to know about last year’s defense and Chavis’s defensive philosophy in general.
 
#53
#53
SGMVols said:
I think the spread was somewhere around 20 despite the closeness in rankings. Nobody gave UT much of a chance in that game.
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That would be shocking, but I don't know and can't seem to find it. I'll trust your memory over mine any day. :)
 
#54
#54
ufgatorfan97 said:
Morning.

First, you are asking me some pointed questions about what I said in another thread. I'm older than i care to admit, so my memory's not the best, and since that whole thread was deleted (sensitive much?), I can't go back and see what exactly I wrote. Having said that...

1. I'm confident I did say something about no one in their right mind betting against Florida this year. And for time's sake, I won't regurgitate the reasons, as a lot of your own brethren have already made my argument for me in this thread. Summary: lot of starters lost on UT defense, UF offense arguably the best in the land, home game for UF, UT's QB and WR play is suspect, etc. Just read the other Vol posts.

2. I'm confident I DIDN'T say anything about Kiffen being worse than Fulmer. Don't remember bringing Fulmer up at all. Looking at Kiffin's track record, currently has a losing record as a head coach. A lot of you are blaming Al Davis for that, and that has merit, but AD had comments for Kiffin that he never had for another coach, mostly along the lines of being a lying POS. But, as another poster said, there are ten or more NFL coaches that went to the college ranks and fared much better. Certainly Kiffin has that capacity, so perhaps he will eventually be better than Fulmer was. Time will tell. At least he married the daughter of a Gator. :)

3. Experts on your team? "If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles." Sun Tsu, Art of War. We're probably not experts, but we do our best to stay educated about our rivals. That goes to the point I made yesterday about having open discussion with rivals, instead of blocking all rival input out. "If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat." The next line in Art of War.

4. As your other posters have already agreed, 6 lost starters on defense. Berry for Heisman. That leaves four other defenders returning. Any studs among them? Any? Any among them that, on paper, have even a chance at stopping the UF Offensive train?

5. Again, sensitive. I'm not being a jerk, I'm simply a rival sharing my opinion. When attacked, I may retaliate. That's how they ban Gators on Warchant (Seminole board) - they attack Gator posters, wait for the Gators to defend themselves, and ban for the "offensive" post. We laugh at them for their childishness. Certainly the best message board on the internet would never stoop to such behavior.

We're both fans. I expect that both of our fanbases are guilty of homerism. We each believe our teams are better than they are. That's normal. But even the outsider, on paper, has to come to the conclusion that UT little to no chance this year of beating UF. I've referenced "on paper" twice in this post, Ole Miss still hurts. Anything can happen on any given Saturday. But that doesn't mean anyone in their right mind would bet UT on Sept 19th.
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You misunderstand buddy...I was just giving some of the things I saw that were said over there...I don't think you said all of it..I think only that no one would bet against UF on that day. My thing is that there are a bunch of posters over there who are trying to state facts about UT that are way off. It just pissed me off that you guys seem to do zero homework and just assume things about this team.

The only one solid defender just enraged me to no end.
 
#55
#55
McCoy, Walker, Martin, Berry, Vinson, Rogan, Dan Williams. All could start at any SEC school.

And UT has constantly put very good defensive guys in the NFL. Name me 5 Florida players who have been good to very good in the NFL....Kearse, Kevin Carter, Lito Shepard.....That is all I got off the top of my head.
 
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checkerboard_charly said:
McCoy, Walker, Martin, Berry, Vinson, Rogan, Dan Williams. All could start at any SEC school.

And UT has constantly put very good defensive guys in the NFL. Name me 5 Florida players who have been good to very good in the NFL....Kearse, Kevin Carter, Lito Shepard.....That is all I got off the top of my head.
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Alex Brown, Jack Youngblood, Mike Peterson. Couple of guys there now, but I won't call them very good yet, as they are still young. Look for Reggie Nelson to be a big name.
 
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#59
ufgatorfan97 said:
Alex Brown, Jack Youngblood, Mike Peterson. Couple of guys there now, but I won't call them very good yet, as they are still young. Look for Reggie Nelson to be a big name.
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Nelson always seem to come up with a big play at UF.
 
#60
#60
RFN, baby!

Side note, and has been discussed in another (conspicuously missing) thread, this board is really nice. REALLY nice. Wish the GSMB was this easy to use. Have a great Sunday, folks. Four weeks til football!
 
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