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I gotta say something else real quick...

So Gator 97, no one in their right mind would bet against UF on Sept 19?

No way Kiffin can be more successful than Fulmer?

I wanna know this from you Gators....What the hell makes you such experts on our team?

One solid defender? Are you serious? I respect you guys but when you act like you know our team and then post this crap it pisses me off....

I take it all back guys....Sorry O-Dub....But ban these damn know it alls....Let them rot on their Atari look a like message board.
 
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you tell 'em. stupid short jean short wearing, know-it-all pieces of smokeys crap. They are so low I wouldnt even compare them to the dirt on the bottom of my shoe.
 
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I gotta say something else real quick...

So Gator 97, no one in their right mind would bet against UF on Sept 19?

No way Kiffin can be more successful than Fulmer?

I wanna know this from you Gators....What the hell makes you such experts on our team?

One solid defender? Are you serious? I respect you guys but when you act like you know our team and then post this crap it pisses me off....

I take it all back guys....Sorry O-Dub....But ban these damn know it alls....Let them rot on their Atari look a like message board.

I think I like this CBC better :)
 
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You stay classy. :salute:

Not entirely sure what was said but I'm assuming it implies what every Gator fan has been repeating for almost a year now..."we will score 70 on you" and "Vols do not have a chance".

Any team can be beaten on a day that it's unexpected. No matter the difference in talent level or coaching abilities.

Florida v.s. Ole Miss

No one believed that Ole Miss had a prayer in that game. In the week prior to the UF game, Ole Miss lost in Oxford to an eventual 7-6 Vanderbilt team. Not to add insult to injury, the Rebels were trying to rebound from disaster of a 2007 season with a 3-9 record.
 
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I gotta say something else real quick...

So Gator 97, no one in their right mind would bet against UF on Sept 19?

No way Kiffin can be more successful than Fulmer?

I wanna know this from you Gators....What the hell makes you such experts on our team?

One solid defender? Are you serious? I respect you guys but when you act like you know our team and then post this crap it pisses me off....

I take it all back guys....Sorry O-Dub....But ban these damn know it alls....Let them rot on their Atari look a like message board.

Let them keeping thinking we have one solid defender. Big Dan, Montori, Ben Martin, Chris Walker, Rico and the rest will be a pleasant little surprise. Thing about the gators right now... the taller they are the harder the fall. They only understand one side of the culture change, that Kiffin is brash. What they've underestimated is that we're going to walk into the swamp ready to throw down... and while we may lose, we're not taking any prisoners either. The gators are going to feel this one like none since 2001. We'll be hitting, hitting hard, making them remember to quote Johnny.

I'm OK with them thinking they'll hang 70 on us... because they've set a bar they can't clear... What if, gasp, they only win by 14 or 20 and we get the "moral victory"? Surely that would be an unacceptable embarrassment.

The gators seem to overlook the fact that our first teams are pretty dang talented. We do have bits and pieces of #4 (2005), #3 (2007) and #10 (2009) recruiting classes on the field. We still have top 20 talent, if close to the bottom of the top 20. Depth is an issue... but we play the gators early. And it today proves to be a trend rather than an aberration with Crompton... the unthinkable could actually happen on the 19th.
 
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I gotta say something else real quick...

So Gator 97, no one in their right mind would bet against UF on Sept 19?

No way Kiffin can be more successful than Fulmer?

I wanna know this from you Gators....What the hell makes you such experts on our team?

One solid defender? Are you serious? I respect you guys but when you act like you know our team and then post this crap it pisses me off....

I take it all back guys....Sorry O-Dub....But ban these damn know it alls....Let them rot on their Atari look a like message board.

Haha, now your catching on!!!:rock:
 
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Most rational gator fans do not believe that UF will beat Tennessee by 70 points.

Many of the older, more pessimistic UF fans would just be happy to come away with a W.

Now I'm sure ALL Gator fans would be really happy if UF could RUTS on Tennessee, but it's certainly not a given.

And I would say, in general, very few, if any Gator fans have a solid idea of what UT is going to bring to the table this year from a personnel standpoint. Reading this board helps, and Phil Steel gives you something to work with, but how many fans actually do that kind of work? Not many.

As far as the game on the 19th of September? I think Florida wins something like 27-13 or something like that. In 2008, Florida scored on every drive except two, and based on the personnel that UT lost from that good unit, I think Florida should have decent success scoring while UT will struggle against a veteran defense.
 
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Be careful what you say about Atari. Some of us "old timers" loved that. Granted, it wasn't the most beautiful or sophisticated look. :D
 
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Most rational gator fans do not believe that UF will beat Tennessee by 70 points.

Many of the older, more pessimistic UF fans would just be happy to come away with a W.

Now I'm sure ALL Gator fans would be really happy if UF could RUTS on Tennessee, but it's certainly not a given.

And I would say, in general, very few, if any Gator fans have a solid idea of what UT is going to bring to the table this year from a personnel standpoint. Reading this board helps, and Phil Steel gives you something to work with, but how many fans actually do that kind of work? Not many.

As far as the game on the 19th of September? I think Florida wins something like 27-13 or something like that. In 2008, Florida scored on every drive except two, and based on the personnel that UT lost from that good unit, I think Florida should have decent success scoring while UT will struggle against a veteran defense.

Very realistic assessment, sure you're a gator?

I would agree that we will probably struggle against your defense. Related to our D, the best departing player (DE - Ayers) is being replaced by our most improved player (Chris Walker). D-line appears to be a strength this year anchored by Dan Williams, our best DT from last year. We lost 2 of our starting LBs... MLB last year was an overachiever, solid if not spectacular. We are still trying to figure out who will replace him; we probably won't be any better at that position, but it shouldn't drop off much either - most likely the replacement will be Lathers who is more athletic but less seasoned. Secondary should also be a strength, probably our deepest position. The corners are fast and athletic, Berry at SS, FS position is up for grabs.

Two things I can say with certainty:


  1. The VOLS will play much, much better special teams than we did the past few years; that phase of the game was neglected late in fulmer's tenure, we may actually prevent Brandon James from taking one to the house on us by God.
  2. The VOLS will bring an intensity that you did not see with fulmer.
 
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Most rational gator fans do not believe that UF will beat Tennessee by 70 points.

Many of the older, more pessimistic UF fans would just be happy to come away with a W.

Now I'm sure ALL Gator fans would be really happy if UF could RUTS on Tennessee, but it's certainly not a given.

And I would say, in general, very few, if any Gator fans have a solid idea of what UT is going to bring to the table this year from a personnel standpoint. Reading this board helps, and Phil Steel gives you something to work with, but how many fans actually do that kind of work? Not many.

As far as the game on the 19th of September? I think Florida wins something like 27-13 or something like that. In 2008, Florida scored on every drive except two, and based on the personnel that UT lost from that good unit, I think Florida should have decent success scoring while UT will struggle against a veteran defense.

That's a fair assessment.

On paper, the odd's are definitely in UF's favor.

It's been noted that UT's offense has been simplified compared to previous years and it's favorable to allow the freshmen more PT. If UT can manage to run the ball effectively and avg. 175 yds or more on the ground per game, then UT's chances of winning the games they should not go up. But this is a big "if" at this point in the year and it all depends on the strength of the OL. If they can't open the running lanes then no running game.
 
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Our D did quite nice last year against the Gators. If the special teams would've done better and we didn't throw that pic, we would've easily been in the ball game. The racked up, what? 21 points within the first 6 minutes? They are really good, but not invincible. Our D was one of the best in the SEC, so if our offense does well this year we could possibly upset the Gators. I wouldn't put money on it, because I don't expect a win at all at the Swamp, but it would be nice.
 
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I think it is ridiculous to think UF will win by 40 or whatever it was some Gator said to get folks riled up. The early Vegas line has Florida favored by 27 points which sounds about right. Tennessee has issues at the QB and receiver positions.

The entire Gator D returns and will put 9 in the box to force Tennessee to throw the ball and making it difficult to establish the run- not a good matchup with Florida's oustanding DB's. UF returns the same defense that held an Oklahoma offense that averaged 550 yards and 54 points per game to 360 yds. and 14 points in the BCS championship game.

Tennessee loses 6 defensive starters from last years great defense and even though Percy Harvin is gone, UF still has a top 10 offense and arguably the best special teams in the country. Toss in the home field advantage and some players motivated by Kiffin's comments about Meyer and it equates to the point spread.
 
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I think it is ridiculous to think UF will win by 40 or whatever it was some Gator said to get folks riled up. The early Vegas line has Florida favored by 27 points which sounds about right. Tennessee has issues at the QB and receiver positions.

The entire Gator D returns and will put 9 in the box to force Tennessee to throw the ball and making it difficult to establish the run- not a good matchup with Florida's oustanding DB's. UF returns the same defense that held an Oklahoma offense that averaged 550 yards and 54 points per game to 360 yds. and 14 points in the BCS championship game.

Tennessee loses 6 defensive starters from last years great defense and even though Percy Harvin is gone, UF still has a top 10 offense and arguably the best special teams in the country. Toss in the home field advantage and some players motivated by Kiffin's comments about Meyer and it equates to the point spread.
What happen last time uf was favored by a massive amount over the VOLS? Since I'm a nice guy I'll help you with the answer.
YouTube - 2001 UT/UF:)
 
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What happen last time uf was favored by a massive amount over the VOLS? Since I'm a nice guy I'll help you with the answer.
YouTube - 2001 UT/UF:)

That was 8 years ago. That version of Tennessee is much better than this year's version. Tennessee was ranked 6th in the country when they won that game, so they were not a huge underdog the way they will be this year.Those were 2 very good teams playing one another.

This year's version of UF is far better than the 2001 version.
 
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I gotta say something else real quick...

1. So Gator 97, no one in their right mind would bet against UF on Sept 19?

2. No way Kiffin can be more successful than Fulmer?

3. I wanna know this from you Gators....What the hell makes you such experts on our team?

4. One solid defender? Are you serious? I respect you guys but when you act like you know our team and then post this crap it pisses me off....

5. I take it all back guys....Sorry O-Dub....But ban these damn know it alls....Let them rot on their Atari look a like message board.

Morning.

First, you are asking me some pointed questions about what I said in another thread. I'm older than i care to admit, so my memory's not the best, and since that whole thread was deleted (sensitive much?), I can't go back and see what exactly I wrote. Having said that...

1. I'm confident I did say something about no one in their right mind betting against Florida this year. And for time's sake, I won't regurgitate the reasons, as a lot of your own brethren have already made my argument for me in this thread. Summary: lot of starters lost on UT defense, UF offense arguably the best in the land, home game for UF, UT's QB and WR play is suspect, etc. Just read the other Vol posts.

2. I'm confident I DIDN'T say anything about Kiffen being worse than Fulmer. Don't remember bringing Fulmer up at all. Looking at Kiffin's track record, currently has a losing record as a head coach. A lot of you are blaming Al Davis for that, and that has merit, but AD had comments for Kiffin that he never had for another coach, mostly along the lines of being a lying POS. But, as another poster said, there are ten or more NFL coaches that went to the college ranks and fared much better. Certainly Kiffin has that capacity, so perhaps he will eventually be better than Fulmer was. Time will tell. At least he married the daughter of a Gator. :)

3. Experts on your team? "If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles." Sun Tsu, Art of War. We're probably not experts, but we do our best to stay educated about our rivals. That goes to the point I made yesterday about having open discussion with rivals, instead of blocking all rival input out. "If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat." The next line in Art of War.

4. As your other posters have already agreed, 6 lost starters on defense. Berry for Heisman. That leaves four other defenders returning. Any studs among them? Any? Any among them that, on paper, have even a chance at stopping the UF Offensive train?

5. Again, sensitive. I'm not being a jerk, I'm simply a rival sharing my opinion. When attacked, I may retaliate. That's how they ban Gators on Warchant (Seminole board) - they attack Gator posters, wait for the Gators to defend themselves, and ban for the "offensive" post. We laugh at them for their childishness. Certainly the best message board on the internet would never stoop to such behavior.

We're both fans. I expect that both of our fanbases are guilty of homerism. We each believe our teams are better than they are. That's normal. But even the outsider, on paper, has to come to the conclusion that UT little to no chance this year of beating UF. I've referenced "on paper" twice in this post, Ole Miss still hurts. Anything can happen on any given Saturday. But that doesn't mean anyone in their right mind would bet UT on Sept 19th.
 
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Morning.

First, you are asking me some pointed questions about what I said in another thread. I'm older than i care to admit, so my memory's not the best, and since that whole thread was deleted (sensitive much?), I can't go back and see what exactly I wrote. Having said that...

1. I'm confident I did say something about no one in their right mind betting against Florida this year. And for time's sake, I won't regurgitate the reasons, as a lot of your own brethren have already made my argument for me in this thread. Summary: lot of starters lost on UT defense, UF offense arguably the best in the land, home game for UF, UT's QB and WR play is suspect, etc. Just read the other Vol posts.

2. I'm confident I DIDN'T say anything about Kiffen being worse than Fulmer. Don't remember bringing Fulmer up at all. Looking at Kiffin's track record, currently has a losing record as a head coach. A lot of you are blaming Al Davis for that, and that has merit, but AD had comments for Kiffin that he never had for another coach, mostly along the lines of being a lying POS. But, as another poster said, there are ten or more NFL coaches that went to the college ranks and fared much better. Certainly Kiffin has that capacity, so perhaps he will eventually be better than Fulmer was. Time will tell. At least he married the daughter of a Gator. :)

3. Experts on your team? "If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles." Sun Tsu, Art of War. We're probably not experts, but we do our best to stay educated about our rivals. That goes to the point I made yesterday about having open discussion with rivals, instead of blocking all rival input out. "If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat." The next line in Art of War.

4. As your other posters have already agreed, 6 lost starters on defense. Berry for Heisman. That leaves four other defenders returning. Any studs among them? Any? Any among them that, on paper, have even a chance at stopping the UF Offensive train?

5. Again, sensitive. I'm not being a jerk, I'm simply a rival sharing my opinion. When attacked, I may retaliate. That's how they ban Gators on Warchant (Seminole board) - they attack Gator posters, wait for the Gators to defend themselves, and ban for the "offensive" post. We laugh at them for their childishness. Certainly the best message board on the internet would never stoop to such behavior.

We're both fans. I expect that both of our fanbases are guilty of homerism. We each believe our teams are better than they are. That's normal. But even the outsider, on paper, has to come to the conclusion that UT little to no chance this year of beating UF. I've referenced "on paper" twice in this post, Ole Miss still hurts. Anything can happen on any given Saturday. But that doesn't mean anyone in their right mind would bet UT on Sept 19th.

You clearly know nothing of our defense.
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You clearly know nothing of our defense.
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By all means, explain it to me. I know you're starting new guys at more than half of the positions, which is difficult for ANY team, not just yours (see UF, 2007). I know a new system is in place, also difficult for ANY team. But, no, I don't know the new starters or the returning players, save for Berry, who is a beast. Please, I'm here to be educated on UT, otherwise I wouldn't be here.
 
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By all means, explain it to me. I know you're starting new guys at more than half of the positions, which is difficult for ANY team, not just yours (see UF, 2007). I know a new system is in place, also difficult for ANY team. But, no, I don't know the new starters or the returning players, save for Berry, who is a beast. Please, I'm here to be educated on UT, otherwise I wouldn't be here.
There is a concern at linebacker and depth at the defensive tackle position. The defense should be solid and probably has a little more speed especially upfront than last year. Secondary is going to be the strength, but we'll be better up front this year than last. Linebacker is really the only real question about the defense. I'm more concerned about them adjusting to a new system.
 
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By all means, explain it to me. I know you're starting new guys at more than half of the positions, which is difficult for ANY team, not just yours (see UF, 2007). I know a new system is in place, also difficult for ANY team. But, no, I don't know the new starters or the returning players, save for Berry, who is a beast. Please, I'm here to be educated on UT, otherwise I wouldn't be here.
For starters, we're returning an all-SEC linebacker and one of the best returning DTs we've had I'm years. Losing Morley is a bonus given how he played last season. Our defensive front is thin, but finally very talented.
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And we lose Bolden and Fisher at DT, both of whom were average at best and very replaceable, Elix Wilson at MLB who was an overachiever and replaceable, and Myers-White at OLB, again replaceable. The only position we should have a drop off is at DE (Ayers) and that's debateable given the way Chris Walker and Ben Martin are coming along.

In summary,

DL should be slightly stronger
LB push
DB stronger
 

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