Why did we call “THAT PLAY”?

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Dougie_D said:
I understand why we would call it in any other situation. My guess is that we have 3 “money plays” at the goal line.
But my question is why the play action play? We should’ve been creative and at least made the RB move or something? I can’t get that play out of my head . Everyone knew it was a pass. The play action was stupid
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LegionnaireOfTheMiserable said:
If you couldn’t see that a pass was coming, that’s on you. The vast majority of people watching saw it. Alabama certainly saw it and called timeout to make sure everyone knew what was coming. We went ahead with it anyway. To try to argue that it wasn’t obvious when everything said and done by anyone who watched or played in the game indicates it was quite obvious is a ridiculous take.

Our coaches called a horrific play. If they thought that was the best they could do, it is a poor reflection on them. The injured QB didn’t make a great throw, but the stupidity of the coaches is more to blame than the execution of an injured quarterback.
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Ok, so you and everyone else knew a pass was the smart play. Wouldn’t that be the perfect time to run?

Also, if you agree that a pass was the correct call then why the problem with the coach for calling what you obviously knew was coming?

I think we can all agree if the play was executed better (outside throw) we either score or the pass is incomplete and we get a field goal.

It didn’t work, what ever they would have called, you would have a problem with if it didn’t work. Hindsight is 20/20.
 
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Dougie_D said:
I understand why we would call it in any other situation. My guess is that we have 3 “money plays” at the goal line.
But my question is why the play action play? We should’ve been creative and at least made the RB move or something? I can’t get that play out of my head . Everyone knew it was a pass. The play action was stupid
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I'm no "Fire Heupel!" Vols fan but it's decisions like that that bother me.And going for a TD instead of 3 with over 3 minutes left was a weird decision.Probably wouldn't have come back at that point but you'd have a little hope down 2 scores there.
 
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B81 said:
Ok, so you and everyone else knew a pass was the smart play. Wouldn’t that be the perfect time to run?

Also, if you agree that a pass was the correct call then why the problem with the coach for calling what you obviously knew was coming?

I think we can all agree if the play was executed better (outside throw) we either score or the pass is incomplete and we get a field goal.

It didn’t work, what ever they would have called, you would have a problem with if it didn’t work. Hindsight is 20/20.
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The problem was not with calling a pass. It was with calling a play action pass. The defense is not going to bite on the play fake because they are playing pass all the way, so now all you have done is made the play take longer to develop at the most condensed part of the field. It is foolish on a number of fronts. This is not a “hindsight is 20/20” deal. This is basic common sense.
 
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JC61 said:
High and outside throw to the big TE. Either a touchdown or miss. Highly doubt a pick six ensues.

Clock management kinda sucked….but I don’t hate the call.

Players have to execute to a high level. Especially againt against a very good team…on their home field…at night.
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That call, as well as the call before, were two of the worst calls of the season. For you to not hate that call is mind blowing. You were probably all good with the Shanahan's call in Super Bowl 51!!! I mean, seriously though, rewatch the play. THE DEFENSE WAS ABSOLUTELY ALL OVER IT! Why? Because it was a terrible call...I mean when the defense completely all ins against exactly what you're doing it's most likely a bad call.
 
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GAVol said:
Yep… It wasn’t the play call. It was throwing slightly late, and floating it behind the receiver.
That throw has to be out front or in the stands. Probably got affected by the pass rush getting into his throwing lane a little.
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It was late and the pass rush got there because of the play fake. If it were just a raise up and throw the little flare route to the tight end, it might have worked. The play action there is the problem
 
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Dougie_D said:
I understand why we would call it in any other situation. My guess is that we have 3 “money plays” at the goal line.
But my question is why the play action play? We should’ve been creative and at least made the RB move or something? I can’t get that play out of my head . Everyone knew it was a pass. The play action was stupid
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The bottom line was that Heupel let too much time run off before his timeout. We were left with 9 seconds and no timeouts so we couldn’t risk a run. Had Heupel left more time on the clock we would’ve had the time to pound it in there, maybe a couple of times.
 
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LegionnaireOfTheMiserable said:
It was late and the pass rush got there because of the play fake. If it were just a raise up and throw the little flare route to the tight end, it might have worked. The play action there is the problem
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I’ll give you that. the play action and heavy personnel were a waste of time in that situation. I hated the personnel way more than the call. The flat throw to the RB and TE running the out are staples at the goal line.
 
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Also wasn’t there a clear PI that wasn’t called a few plays earlier when the Bama defender was all over Brazzel in the end zone? If that is called correctly we get the ball at the one with plenty of time to pound it in. As always, the refs were horrible. Another frustration with Heupel when he doesn’t go nuclear when there are egregious calls like Saban did.
 
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Dougie_D said:
I understand why we would call it in any other situation. My guess is that we have 3 “money plays” at the goal line.
But my question is why the play action play? We should’ve been creative and at least made the RB move or something? I can’t get that play out of my head . Everyone knew it was a pass. The play action was stupid
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That same exact play is ran by a lot of teams around the country. It was a good play call just a horrible throw.
 
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BigOrangeTrain said:
Joey made a horrible throw. Nothing more.
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In that situation, it is a horrible playcall. If it were 4th and 20 and we called an inside zone run, that would be a horrible call even though everyone runs that play and we have had success with it before. Same principle applies here. Joey was hurt so asking him to make that pass in that situation also isn’t smart
 
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LegionnaireOfTheMiserable said:
In that situation, it is a horrible playcall. If it were 4th and 20 and we called an inside zone run, that would be a horrible call even though everyone runs that play and we have had success with it before. Same principle applies here. Joey was hurt so asking him to make that pass in that situation also isn’t smart
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Eh… He was dinged not disabled. it’s not like they were asking him to throw a 20 yard out or something. As far as throws go, I don’t think it was one of the tougher ones.
 
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jeffreync said:
That call, as well as the call before, were two of the worst calls of the season. For you to not hate that call is mind blowing. You were probably all good with the Shanahan's call in Super Bowl 51!!! I mean, seriously though, rewatch the play. THE DEFENSE WAS ABSOLUTELY ALL OVER IT! Why? Because it was a terrible call...I mean when the defense completely all ins against exactly what you're doing it's most likely a bad call.
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Not a terrible call. Piss poor execution. For you not understanding execution was bad is just mind blowing. Better throw…either a td or 3.
 
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JC61 said:
Not a terrible call. Piss poor execution. For you not understanding execution was bad is just mind blowing. Better throw…either a td or 3.
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Sigh, it's definitely a terrible call. Again, go watch . Tell me they weren't absolutely all over it. It's a play action pass with 2 options, both were blanketed. If he would have executed better then, yeah we would have avoided a pick six. That doesn't change the fact that the play call was awful. IF THE DEFENSE CALLS THE PERFECT PLAY AGAINST YOUR OFFENSIVE CALL then it was probably a bad call. They were running a goal line/ man flats zone play, a call hedging on them passing.
 
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GAVol said:
Eh… He was dinged not disabled. it’s not like they were asking him to throw a 20 yard out or something. As far as throws go, I don’t think it was one of the tougher ones.
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No he wasn’t disabled, but when you have a neck injury, it’s not difficult to imagine that you could be off by a yard or so when your target is 20 yards away, especially when there is someone in your face
 
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It was a good call, and should have worked. He was open.
I’d run that same play again right now…. And this is one reason among very many that I am a mighty internet poster and not spending my time doing something more worthwhile….
 
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LegionnaireOfTheMiserable said:
In that situation, it is a horrible playcall. If it were 4th and 20 and we called an inside zone run, that would be a horrible call even though everyone runs that play and we have had success with it before. Same principle applies here. Joey was hurt so asking him to make that pass in that situation also isn’t smart
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No it’s not. You can call it a horrible play call all you want but you are wrong.
 
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LegionnaireOfTheMiserable said:
In that situation, it is a horrible playcall. If it were 4th and 20 and we called an inside zone run, that would be a horrible call even though everyone runs that play and we have had success with it before. Same principle applies here. Joey was hurt so asking him to make that pass in that situation also isn’t smart
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Once again bruin, you are wrong.
 
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