Why cant we, TENNESSEE, land any of these top recruits?!

#77
#77
I'll try to be understanding here. This guy is a vol fan and that's awesome but he either doesn't get the time or doesn't put in the effort to follow things like recruiting that most of us do. All of which is understandable. But when you get on here to go on a rant and be really far off base, it just looks bad. For us that's kept up with recruiting we understand that this staff has recruited better than we have in a long time. Maybe save the shenanigan posts for when you actually have a base to go on.
 
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#78
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How about this.....IF WE, TENNESSEE, STARTS TO WIN AND WIN MORE WILL THESE TYPES OF RECRUITS IM REFERRING TO START CHOOSING US? Better?

you mean will top 30 recruits start choosing UT? The point you're missing is that they already are
 
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Ok people, Ill re-word this entire post since many are so angry and want me actually banned lol

How about this.....IF WE, TENNESSEE, STARTS TO WIN AND WIN MORE WILL THESE TYPES OF RECRUITS IM REFERRING TO START CHOOSING US? Better?

We have 2 5 stars, and a possible third (Bates may get bumped, or Adoree may sign). We have these recruits.
 
#80
#80
Yes, again, I know we have reached new heights with this incoming class! lol Im talking about the Fournettes, Tony Browns, Jabrill Peppers (scUM hasn't done ****!), David Cornwells, Kyle Allens, Speedy Noils, DAVID SHARPES, ETC....

We have commits on the same level as those guys, Wtf are yu talking about?
 
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#82
#82
You embarrassed my school and my fan base. You seem to be the one with serious issues questioning our recruiting class, players and coaches. Get a life, you did this to youself.

YOUR school and fanbase? lmao Are you kidding me dude? What, its not MY alma mater and fanbase too? Why would I want to embarrass my alma mater? Grow up and shut up...please.
 
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Ok people, Ill re-word this entire post since many are so angry and want me actually banned lol

How about this.....IF WE, TENNESSEE, STARTS TO WIN AND WIN MORE WILL THESE TYPES OF RECRUITS IM REFERRING TO START CHOOSING US? Better?

If Butch had 10 more scholly's to give he'd get a few more right now.
 
#84
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1. Dontavious Blair- 4 star Juco OT. Offers from AU, FSU, tOSU, UGA, and OU among others. Committed to UT.

2. LaVon Pearson- 6.0 four star WR. Same rating as CP. Juco

3. Chris Weatherd- 4 star Juco LB. Offers from OU, Bama, and A&M. Committed to UT

4. Josh Malone- #2 WR and a top 20 player. 5 star.

5. Jalen Hurd- #5 RB and a top 30 player. 5 star

6. Dillon Bates- #3 OLB and top 70 player. High 4 star.

7. Todd Kelly Jr- #9 Safety and a top 75 player. High 4 star.

8. DeWayne Hendrix- #6 SDE and a top 100 player.

9. Daniel Helm- #1 TE and top 150 player.

10. Derek Barnett- #10 SDE and a top 200 player.

11. D'Andre Payne- #19 CB and a top 250 player.

12. Kevin Mouhon- #10 OLB and a top 200 player.

13. Cortez McDowell- #26 Safety. 4 star

14. Rashaan Gaulden- #21 Safety and a top 250 player.

15. Joe Henderson- #17 WDE. 4 star

16. Evan Berry- #22 CB. 4 star

17. Vic Wharton- #50 WR. 4 star

18. Aaron Medley- #4 Kicker in the nation

19. Gavin Bryant- #17 ILB.

20. Orlando Brown- Top 50 Tackle

21. Elliot Berry- Top 35 ATH

22. Neiko Creamer- Top 30 ATH

23. Charles Mosley- #21 OG

24. Ethan Wolf- Top 20 TE

25. Cory Thomas- Top 20 SDE

26. Treyvon Paulk- #11 APB

27. Coleman Thomas- Top 10 Center

28. Ray Raulerson- Top 55 OT

29. DiMarya Mixon- Not rated. In the 2013 class, he was a 4 star prospect.

With every class, there are always a couple projects.

30. Emmanuel Moseley- Won a state title by leading his team from the QB position. Selected to play in the NC-SC Shrine Bowl and the Offense-Defense Bowl. He will play CB for UT. EE.

31. Jerome Dews- Undersized LB. Had close to 20 sacks this season in HS.

32. Owen Williams- Juco DT. EE. Conference Defensive POY.

33. Jakob Johnson. 6'4 240 LB. 4 star on 247. EE.

Coming off two straight 5-7 seasons and a new HC and staff, I'd say this class is ok
 
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#85
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Thaaaaaank you man, I appreciate the CIVILIZED, EDUCATED answer to my post! lol So there are still some nice people on VN.

I get it man, wanting to be where we once were. Getting top ten guys and everything.
We just have to stay patient, hope for a bowl, 7-8 wins maximum, IMO, and that's going to be hard with our schedule once again being probably top 2 hardest in the country.
If we can reach a bowl, CBJ will be able to sell the shiz out of that, considering what he has done with this past year. Success, and these quality kids who recruit just as much as the coaches will get us back in the thick of it.
I never thought Malone would be coming here, definitely after the last few games of QB play. He has the potential to be great, has everything a WR could want: his work ethic is amazing, as is the whole class. This is it. We just have to ride it out.
 
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1. Dontavious Blair- 4 star Juco OT. Offers from AU, FSU, tOSU, UGA, and OU among others. Committed to UT.

2. LaVon Pearson- 6.0 four star WR. Same rating as CP. Juco

3. Chris Weatherd- 4 star Juco LB. Offers from OU, Bama, and A&M. Committed to UT

4. Josh Malone- #2 WR and a top 20 player. 5 star.

5. Jalen Hurd- #5 RB and a top 30 player. 5 star

6. Dillon Bates- #3 OLB and top 70 player. High 4 star.

7. Todd Kelly Jr- #9 Safety and a top 75 player. High 4 star.

8. DeWayne Hendrix- #6 SDE and a top 100 player.

9. Daniel Helm- #1 TE and top 150 player.

10. Derek Barnett- #10 SDE and a top 200 player.

11. D'Andre Payne- #19 CB and a top 250 player.

12. Kevin Mouhon- #10 OLB and a top 200 player.

13. Cortez McDowell- #26 Safety. 4 star

14. Rashaan Gaulden- #21 Safety and a top 250 player.

15. Joe Henderson- #17 WDE. 4 star

16. Evan Berry- #22 CB. 4 star

17. Vic Wharton- #50 WR. 4 star

18. Aaron Medley- #4 Kicker in the nation

19. Gavin Bryant- #17 ILB.

20. Orlando Brown- Top 50 Tackle

21. Elliot Berry- Top 35 ATH

22. Neiko Creamer- Top 30 ATH

23. Charles Mosley- #21 OG

24. Ethan Wolf- Top 20 TE

25. Cory Thomas- Top 20 SDE

26. Treyvon Paulk- #11 APB

27. Coleman Thomas- Top 10 Center

28. Ray Raulerson- Top 55 OT

29. DiMarya Mixon- Not rated. In the 2013 class, he was a 4 star prospect.

With every class, there are always a couple projects.

30. Emmanuel Moseley- Won a state title by leading his team from the QB position. Selected to play in the NC-SC Shrine Bowl and the Offense-Defense Bowl. He will play CB for UT. EE.

31. Jerome Dews- Undersized LB. Had close to 20 this season in HS.

32. Owen Williams- Juco DT. EE. Conference Defensive POY.

33. Jakob Johnson. 6'4 240 LB. 4 star on 247. EE.

Coming off two straight 5-7 seasons and a new HC and staff, I'd say this class is ok


Ownage
 
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Ok people, Ill re-word this entire post since many are so angry and want me actually banned lol

How about this.....IF WE, TENNESSEE, STARTS TO WIN AND WIN MORE WILL THESE TYPES OF RECRUITS IM REFERRING TO START CHOOSING US? Better?

This is what you are missing, Those type of recruits are already choosing us. Except CBJ got them locked up early so we aren't getting any big time guys late in the year. We have two top-30 players in Hurd and Malone. And you mentioned Scarbrough not choosing us earlier. Hurd is ranked higher than him!
 
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#88
YOUR school and fanbase? lmao Are you kidding me dude? What, its not MY alma mater and fanbase too? Why would I want to embarrass my alma mater? Grow up and shut up...please.

That's what I said. I don't know why you had to repeat me. :lol: You understand how bad this looks? What do you think the kids think when their own fans aren't calling them elite? You listed people as "program changers" that were lower on the list than our commits. Please do some research before you call out our recruiting class and the kids in it. Thanks in advance. :hi:
 
#90
#90
With every class, there are always a couple projects.

30. Emmanuel Moseley- Won a state title by leading his team from the QB position. Selected to play in the NC-SC Shrine Bowl and the Offense-Defense Bowl. He will play CB for UT. EE.


Didnt Moseley win Defensive MVP in the NC-SC shrine bowl?

I dont think he's as much of a project as you think
 
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#91
Ok people, Ill re-word this entire post since many are so angry and want me actually banned lol

How about this.....IF WE, TENNESSEE, STARTS TO WIN AND WIN MORE WILL THESE TYPES OF RECRUITS IM REFERRING TO START CHOOSING US? Better?

Dude, they already are. Hurd, Malone, Pearson, Kelly, Bates and Hendrix are all blue-chip recruits who could play for literally anybody in the country. You could make a solid argument for several others as well.

We're never going to get every single one of them. Sorry - doesn't work that way. But this year, we got our share and then some - we can win games in the SEC with the class we're bringing in.
 
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#92
#92
A few things for OP.

1. Those schools have been recruiting those guys a lot longer than Butch has. Remember, Butch has been here for slightly over a year now.

2. Those big time recruits often like to go to the winning programs. A lot of them want to play in the NC. Notice how Bama kids flipped once they lost to Auburn. UF started losing recruits after their horrible season.

3. Kids often like to stay in their homestate (or close to it). Thats why we have Hurd and Malone. Bama, Louisianna, Florida, etc. often have the higher rated recruits in their state.

4. Carl Lawson was committed to AU before we even got in the hunt.

5. Itll come
 
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Ok people, Ill re-word this entire post since many are so angry and want me actually banned lol

How about this.....IF WE, TENNESSEE, STARTS TO WIN AND WIN MORE WILL THESE TYPES OF RECRUITS IM REFERRING TO START CHOOSING US? Better?

Nobody is angry. You just sound uninformed and like you're pretending that you are informed. The people who actually are informed are informing you that they see straight through you.
 
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#94
#94
yea!!! I agree with the OP!!!! Why can't we sign at least 25 of the top 30 prospects every year! Why can't we win the SEC every year!!! Why can't we win the National Championship every year!!

One word is the reason why: REALITY!!!!!!

In other words OP get real!!!

We have a great class coming in and with wins and the hopes of a bright future, we will get more of the top 50 high school players!!!!
 
#96
#96
Basically what he's getting at is that our class has started off so strong that we don't have spots left... So at the end of the year you're seeing all these top recruits left pick everyone but Tennessee. Look at the all-American games for example. It's all LSU, Bama, A&M, Miami, Florida State, Auburn... That's not to say our class isn't top tier... It's just that we're not shaking things up on the recruiting trail late in the game.

I see what you mean here. Here's the thing though: we're seeing a little bit different recruiting philosophy than we are used to. In July we were always complaining about having 4 guys committed and 2 of those guys were still taking visits. Now, we lock everybody up early and spent that extra time we have later in the process on 1 or 2 guys and devote a ton of time to them. Even better though, we get a huge jump start on recruiting for the next year. I think we'll start to see the fruits of that come next cycle when we are in on a lot of guys that we wouldn't have been if we didn't have the time to spend on them early. I like this style much better than before. Does it make January a little boring? Sure. But I think it's going to work out better for us in the long run.
 
#98
#98
Tennessee Coaches have their own Recruiting Board that they look at to target and rank players according to need.. You are looking at a recruiting sites ranking of the top players in the nation.. College coaches don't utilize these 3rd party recruiting sites to figure out which players to pursue.. Our Coaches do their own evaluations. We nabbed Malone, Hurd , Moseley, just to name a few, all top players in TN.. Sure We didn't make alot of noise in the Rivals Top 50.. But I believe that WE GOT EVERYBODY WE WAS SUPPOSED TO GET and filled positions of need on both sides of the ball..

Coach Jones has been recruiting at TN for almost 13 Months.. And Currently holding onto the #2 Recruiting Class.. Are You Not Entertained! I'd be satisfied with a top 25 class after the performance we put on this past season.. Don't Panic Keep Calm.. Next thing u knw posters on volnation will be calling for his job if we don't land Jackson..
 
#99
#99
Why are you guys being rude to UTVolWarrior98, we are a family (VOLNATION) and you are putting down a brother just because he asked a question...? Normally a family is full of caring and this thread is NOT showing that. But to answer you question UTVolWarrior98 I think if we have a good turn out next year we will be back on the map.
 
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Ok people, Ill re-word this entire post since many are so angry and want me actually banned lol

How about this.....IF WE, TENNESSEE, STARTS TO WIN AND WIN MORE WILL THESE TYPES OF RECRUITS IM REFERRING TO START CHOOSING US? Better?

Seriously? We have these type of recruits this year. Per Rivals, they rank 28 five stars. We have 2, which is tied for second with A&M, UVA, and Auburn. Alabama leads with 4, but Scarbrough is questionable. Except for wanting attention, I question your definition of "these types of recruits."
 
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