Why can UT not hire a football coach efficiently?

#52
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Rudy123 said:
We know he spoke to Freeze. We know Freeze is head coach at Liberty.
We know he spoke to Locksley. We know Locksley is head coach at Maryland
We know he wanted OSU OC but he is staying in Stillwater with a raise
We know he wanted Enos but Enos was promoted to OC at Bama.
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It's cometely asinine to chalk up #1, #2 and #4 to incompetence and you've got no idea if 3 is true.
 
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Behr said:
What does this mean?
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People being optimistic that Pruitt "has his guy" and is just playing his cards close to the chest.

This a botch job as usual and we are getting turned down left and right and will be forced to settle for our 8th or 9th choice for the job.
 
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Cheap and everyone wanting to have their own philosophy has been the major two reasons I think. We always have someone smarter than the guy were trying to hire even though their plan has worked elsewhere. Head coaches always have to be up and comers cause we don't want to spend the money. Assistants need to always be willing to play the Tennessee way right or wrong.
 
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OrangeShadeOfDoom said:
People being optimistic that Pruitt "has his guy" and is just playing his cards close to the chest.

This a botch job as usual and we are getting turned down left and right and will be forced to settle for our 8th or 9th choice for the job.
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Too much going on here.

Have a nice day.
 
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bigalvol27 said:
Seems logical that we wouldn’t hire Freeze, but perhaps we wanted a consensus from not only the coach, but administration as well. If everyone isn’t on board, probably best to move on as an organization. You don’t want an OC coming in to an already tough job and dealing with politics as well. It’s possible Pruitt hasn’t found that person that fits his style and someone the administration feels good about. I’m fine waiting if it means we meet those criteria in the end, as at least the OC will be set up to succeed with support from all. Doesn’t matter to me if we have to google him too. Being last isn’t always bad, perhaps it gives Pruitt and the OC a chip on the shoulder and they use it to prove people wrong.

Using perhaps twice in a post should get extra likes!

Go Vols!
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I was close to hitting it and then a saw that third perhaps. Too much salt in the soup.
 
#61
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OrangeShadeOfDoom said:
Don't let your wit and my misuse of the word and phrase fool you into thinking this hire is anything other than the usual dumpster fire.
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I'm fully prepared for this to be a tire fire. Unless the OC hire is an NFL guy, somebody with a contract to fulfill or a coach in the playoffs... this process taking 3 weeks is laughable.
 
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So you essentially started an anti-Fulmer thread because you don’t like Pruitt’s hiring timeline. Nice.
 
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10 years of dumbass football decisions....the problems are coming from who is hiring ADs and above. And the people that are signing off on the contracts.
 
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Volfan76 said:
Every other team in the country seems to be able to handle this process quickly and efficiently, but every coaching hire here turns into a drawn out circus. I know reports are out that Pruitt has his guy, but all of this reeks of interference from somewhere....Fulmer, Boyd, Haslam, BOT, somebody. Pruitt likely knew of Helton's departure for months and it sounded like he had a short list very quickly. I know that everybody is coming out and saying this is Pruitt's decision, but I'm not buying it. Someone has to be interfering and I'm raising the question of who? My personal opinion is Fulmer but that is just tea leaf reading.
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The only circus I see is on the message boards.
 
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jwilliams said:
You don't know that it's not going smoothly... that's a fact.
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True, however you can take the previous decades worth of decision making on the football program and extrapolate pretty easily that chances of things going smoothly in this department are far less likely than it being another circus.
 
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Volfan76 said:
Every other team in the country seems to be able to handle this process quickly and efficiently, but every coaching hire here turns into a drawn out circus. I know reports are out that Pruitt has his guy, but all of this reeks of interference from somewhere....Fulmer, Boyd, Haslam, BOT, somebody. Pruitt likely knew of Helton's departure for months and it sounded like he had a short list very quickly. I know that everybody is coming out and saying this is Pruitt's decision, but I'm not buying it. Someone has to be interfering and I'm raising the question of who? My personal opinion is Fulmer but that is just tea leaf reading.
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-FSU's OC left over a week ago and they still have not hired anybody
-Maryland fired their HC on 10/31/18 and didn't hire a replacement until Dec 4
-Kansas fired their HC on 11/4/18 and replaced him on 11/19/18 with someone not coaching
-Kansas OC fired on 10/10/18 and not replaced until 12/3/18

You don't know what is happening behind the scenes with these situations either. May of these were firings, which means they probably were already in discussion with coaches before they fired their coach. But yes, please jump ship and make assumptions. There is a reason they represent the football program and we are at a computer typing.
 
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Rudy123 said:
We know he spoke to Freeze. We know Freeze is head coach at Liberty.
We know he spoke to Locksley. We know Locksley is head coach at Maryland
We know he wanted OSU OC but he is staying in Stillwater with a raise
We know he wanted Enos but Enos was promoted to OC at Bama
Those are not speculations.
We also are 90% sure we will end up with Friend or a Google search OC from North Eastern Nevada Central State.
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He never spoke to Locksley about UT's OC Job? Link please supporting this. I believe that is just false!
 
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jwilliams said:
I hear you, but what I said is factually accurate. Everyone is going off pure speculation, which is fine, but it should be acknowledged that it's purely opinion. We don't know anything yet.
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We know quite a bit actually. We know Freeze not being hired came from our end. We know 3 of the top targets in the market are off the table now. We know those top targets were hired by schools that started searching for an OC around the same time or after we did. We know the early signing period is bearing down and we still don't have an OC.

If Pruitt intended this to go on this long it calls his judgment into question for not recognizing that there was a sense of urgency required. It's possible he's being turned down repeatedly. It could also be he is pulling some cloak and dagger nonsense to disguise an unpopular hire. None are good looks.

Hopefully he surprises us all and pulls a fantastic hire no one expected. But based on the last decade most aren't going to believe that until it happens, and well they shouldn't. Unless he pulls someone like Chaney or Jim Bob, things are going to get uglier after the hire.
 
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Administration puts themselves first before the program itself.

It’s why the job isn’t attractive to Top Notch coaches anymore.

It’s sad but that’s just the way it is now.
 
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Roustabout said:
The OC struggle is a direct result of getting your 8th choice at HC after having to fire your AD, which then led to the firing of your chancellor. Trickle down suckenomics.
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What are you talking about!?!? Pruitt is an amazing coach haven’t you listened to the sheep around here long enough?? I know I know they said the same thing about Dooley,they belittled any and everyone who could not see Dooley was the man!!!! Ok ok, so they messed that one up pretty bad, but anyonce can be wrong once in a while and with Butch this time they were sure!!! I must of heard it proclaimed a thousand times on here that butch jones was the right guy to get us back to prominence and once again anyone who didn’t see that was a fool!!! Now you would think after back to back disasters like those two all those coach worshipping sheep would at least keep quite until their blind optimism finally did luck into a good hire!! Well you’d be wrong, like a wind up toy with only one line these same dip ***** are still here proclaiming that anyone who doesn’t see Pruitt is the next great coach is an idiot and knows nothing about football! Yes that’s right, the people who are a resounding 0 for 2 on the last coaching hires are still calling the people who are a resounding 2 and 0 idiots who don’t know football.... and no, just because it was obvious to some of us that the previous two coaches sucked doesn’t mean we are negative people. I want the football program to succeed as much as anyone, but I’m not going to close my eyes and pretend... hopefully Pruitt works out because i don’t feel like having to sit through another coaching search where UT goes dumpster diving for a coach only to be told by some he is the next big deal in coaching. This vicious cycle needs to end, since it’s clear the admin isn’t going to stanch the odds in our favor we just have to hope we eventually get lucky!! I really hope it’s pruitt but his first year didn’t really give me much either way.
 
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Volfan76 said:
Every other team in the country seems to be able to handle this process quickly and efficiently, but every coaching hire here turns into a drawn out circus. I know reports are out that Pruitt has his guy, but all of this reeks of interference from somewhere....Fulmer, Boyd, Haslam, BOT, somebody. Pruitt likely knew of Helton's departure for months and it sounded like he had a short list very quickly. I know that everybody is coming out and saying this is Pruitt's decision, but I'm not buying it. Someone has to be interfering and I'm raising the question of who? My personal opinion is Fulmer but that is just tea leaf reading.
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I dunno what's going on, but it's old and making us look even worse. The longer it drags, the more I think Will Friend or some other underwhelming hire. It's like it's such a pathetic hire they are hiding it as long as possible, or we just can't hire anyone. Your right, other teams have moved swiftly and the NFL is making moves. Tennessee was one of the first teams looking and here we are almost a month later scratching our asses. Does no one want to work for Pruitt? Is someone else really controlling everything? Or no one wants anything to do with UT football. I think it's a little of it all
 
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Volfan76 said:
Every other team in the country seems to be able to handle this process quickly and efficiently, but every coaching hire here turns into a drawn out circus. I know reports are out that Pruitt has his guy, but all of this reeks of interference from somewhere....Fulmer, Boyd, Haslam, BOT, somebody. Pruitt likely knew of Helton's departure for months and it sounded like he had a short list very quickly. I know that everybody is coming out and saying this is Pruitt's decision, but I'm not buying it. Someone has to be interfering and I'm raising the question of who? My personal opinion is Fulmer but that is just tea leaf reading.
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Admin and BOT don't care about winning and fans have shown for the most part that they won't punish the program for it
 
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