Why Bray is getting so much negative publicity?

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orangesparkles said:
There's no need for a lecture to begin with if no one finds out about the ticket or incident; you're grasping for straws trying to compare a "big" story in Knoxville media to a random ticket.
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but it is just a random ticket! Just because you're buying into the GVX hype doesn't make it any bigger than him going 10 over on I40

orangesparkles said:
And, yes, I do equate the CFO and Bray. Both are individuals of note and have a higher accountability for their actions.
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sorry but it's really sad there are people who honestly believe that. Thankfully there aren't many but you do exist
 
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"not doing stupid stuff" would go a long ways in his quest to stop the negative publicity.


Put this kid on the Jeff Smoker Nintendo Surveillance System.

Weights. Classes. Practice. Study.SityerassinfrontoftheTVplayingNintendo. Repeat.
 
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utvolpj said:
but it is just a random ticket! Just because you're buying into the GVX hype doesn't make it any bigger than him going 10 over on I40



sorry but it's really sad there are people who honestly believe that. Thankfully there aren't many but you do exist
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Are you actually going to try and say that people who have a visible media presence and more "importance" to an organization/society shouldn't be held more accountable for their actions? That's just imbecilic on your part; when people are following your every move, you absolutely have more of a responsibility to be mindful of your behavior. You're no longer representing just yourself, but also a brand.
 
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orangesparkles said:
Are you actually going to try and say that people who have a visible media presence and more "importance" to an organization/society shouldn't be held more accountable for their actions? That's just imbecilic on your part; when people are following your every move, you absolutely have more of a responsibility to be mindful of your behavior. You're no longer representing just yourself, but also a brand.
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no what I'm saying is that "brand" is in no way tarnished when one person gets a simple ticket. It does not represent UT football negatively at all. Anyone blowing this up really needs to quit letting the local media drive their feelings.

he got an unimportant ticket
it was dismissed

that's all that happened
 
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utvolpj said:
no what I'm saying is that "brand" is in no way tarnished when one person gets a simple ticket. It does not represent UT football negatively at all. Anyone blowing this up really needs to quit letting the local media drive their feelings.

he got an unimportant ticket
it was dismissed

that's all that happened
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It's not the ticket itself, rather the behavior behind the ticket. It's not the fact that Bray didn't get into trouble with the police for the car incident, but the behavior that prompted the news story. This immaturity reflects not only on Bray himself, but on Tennessee as a program and institution. People in visible positions don't need to be reprimanded solely on issues that result in legal punishment.

Employee A is a low-level grunt at Coca-Cola. He goes out, gets really drunk at a bar, starts being obnoxious and is kicked out and gets taken home by a taxi after throwing up outside of the bar. No one knows who he is, so no one cares. Non issue.

Employee B repeats the same behavior, but is a visible entity of Coca-Cola by virtue of being their CEO. When he repeats the same behavior, people take pictures and videos of his buffoonery and upload it to Twitter/Youtube/Gawker. Because people know who he is, they care. Issue.

The media doesn't have time to run with stories that don't mean anything. If the story relates to someone of notoriety, it's worth publicizing. Legality of the events in question, Bray's immaturity casts both himself and Tennessee football in a negative light, and is precisely why it's not just some college kid messing around.
 
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orangesparkles said:
This immaturity reflects not only on Bray himself, but on Tennessee as a program and institution.
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A stupid ticket actually does none of that and, as I said above, thankfully very few believe that to be true. Very few view UT football any differently than they did yesterday (I only say very few because I sure a couple of bammers are using this as ammo) and even fewer view it as a reflection on UT as a school

orangesparkles said:
Employee A is a low-level grunt at Coca-Cola. He goes out, gets really drunk at a bar, starts being obnoxious and is kicked out and gets taken home by a taxi after throwing up outside of the bar. No one knows who he is, so no one cares. Non issue.

Employee B repeats the same behavior, but is a visible entity of Coca-Cola by virtue of being their CEO. When he repeats the same behavior, people take pictures and videos of his buffoonery and upload it to Twitter/Youtube/Gawker. Because people know who he is, they care. Issue.

The media doesn't have time to run with stories that don't mean anything. If the story relates to someone of notoriety, it's worth publicizing. Legality of the events in question, Bray's immaturity casts both himself and Tennessee football in a negative light, and is precisely why it's not just some college kid messing around.
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if the CEO of Coke gets a traffic ticket does it make the front page of any paper? Your hypothetical is worthless since alcohol was not involved with Bray's jetski incident. It was a simple ticket and will be dismissed. That's all it is. It is actually mind-blowing that some are blowing this up bigger than that.
 
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Could it be that during the end of CPFs tenure arrests were so common they were no big deal. Now legal troubles are few and far between which dosn't give the pathetic Knox media much to report, so they sensationalize the most minor events.

Not to mention the Knox media appears to have a butthurt torch it to the ground agenda towards the football program since CPFs departure.
 
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esarmstrong said:
Yeah, nothing screams "leadership" and "face of the program" quite like this.
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"Man parents just don''t understand" He doesn't care about the program. Kids today are more worried about making $$$$ not being this clean cut kid who is supposed to make everyone like them. Frankly, he doesn't care what you think he should be. His number one goal is to make himself a better QB prospect for the NFL draft. Fact!!!!!!
 
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SmokeyHound said:
In my opinion, the number one reason is because these journalists have nothing better to write about and get more views from negative publicity rather than positive. I guarantee both of these Bray incidents and the Darick Rogers incidents are all over-exaggerated. This comes with being a good player or organization. Hence the Cowboys and Jets. The Cowboys are a multi-billion dollar franchise and get a lot of negative publicity for the smallest of things. The Jets have the legendary Tim Tebow but the press picks on them for a locker fight which literally happens on every single team in the NFL. The media just needs more to write about, plain and simple.
Tyler is in college for crying out loud. Do they think he is going to be a saint? It is supposed to be the best time of their lives! Leave the kid alone this will all pass. Hes still a great QB.
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Well to start with Bray has to grow up some. (alot) He has to beat someone on the field. All the media remembers is his last game. A loss to Kentucky.
 
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utvolpj said:
if the CEO of Coke gets a traffic ticket does it make the front page of any paper? Your hypothetical is worthless since alcohol was not involved with Bray's jetski incident. It was a simple ticket and will be dismissed. That's all it is. It is actually mind-blowing that some are blowing this up bigger than that.
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The hypothetical is not worthless; both are legal behavior for the participants that did not result in any sticking ticket. Both reflect poorly on the respective brands because, ultimately, the media is reporting on it.

Keep making blind excuses for UT and its QB, though. God knows there's no reason to read into the driving force behind all of these incidents.
 
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orangesparkles said:
The hypothetical is not worthless; both are legal behavior for the participants that did not result in any sticking ticket. Both reflect poorly on the respective brands because, ultimately, the media is reporting on it.

Keep making blind excuses for UT and its QB, though. God knows there's no reason to read into the driving force behind all of these incidents.
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there's no media it's just the KNS. None takes them seriously anyway

I'm not making any excuses since this situation doesn't warrant one. The vast majority of people will never know this happened and even fewer will shrug it off if they've ever had a bit of fun in their life. The way you're reacting tells me you really don't understand what he actually did at all.
 
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utvolpj said:
A stupid ticket actually does none of that and, as I said above, thankfully very few believe that to be true. Very few view UT football any differently than they did yesterday (I only say very few because I sure a couple of bammers are using this as ammo) and even fewer view it as a reflection on UT as a school



if the CEO of Coke gets a traffic ticket does it make the front page of any paper? Your hypothetical is worthless since alcohol was not involved with Bray's jetski incident. It was a simple ticket and will be dismissed. That's all it is. It is actually mind-blowing that some are blowing this up bigger than that.
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wait, you just made reference to Coke, Bray and Blow in the same post. Time for a new thread!!!!

:swoon3:
 
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The beer bottle thing i take issue with, but this jet ski thing is nothing. Who hasnt raised hell on a jet ski? That's what theyre for. Sounds to me like he was having fun with friends.
 
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He needs to stop doing dumb things, but you are correct about the media over hyping events or making up stories to get a story or advance an agenda. For example, Dan Rather making up stuff on GW Bush, NBC staging a car crash and ABC staging tainted meat to push their agendas. They cover up what they don't want reported. For example, someone in the local media had to know what was going on for years at Penn State. These are examples of over hyping non events and covering up horrendous things that ruin peoples' lives.
 
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If anything, he should be commended for being on a lake raising hell on July 4 with a chick on the back and the fact that he didn't get a dui.

I guess if some of you clowns were a future draft pick and qb at UT, you'd sit around posting on message boards or at a church meeting. Good for you.

I'd be raising hell on a lake on the 4th with some girls, and drunk. But that's just me.
 
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