Why are we the only major school that can't hire

[Fijivol72]

I can not for the life of me understand why we have so much trouble hiring a good coach. Some will say it is a money issue but frankly I believe it goes.further than that. I firmly believe it is because our administration has developed the reputation of not being committed to winning.

 

[jasonvol18]

I can not for the life of me understand why we have so much trouble hiring a good coach. Some will say it is a money issue but frankly I believe it goes.further than that. I firmly believe it is because our administration has developed the reputation of not being committed to winning.

Florida hasn't since Urban, took Ala 4 tries before they got Saban..it's not just TN

 

[Boca Vol]

Dooley had so many issues including the APR when he departed. It was a disaster to walk in to. Butch took it on and with slight of hand bought himself 5 years. When it's completely on his dime he has stumbled.

 

[CAVPUT]

Or maybe it's a spoiled, petulant fan base with unrealistic expectations?

Seriously....and I was being serious, not everyone wants to live in east tn. Maybe it's a culture thing? Recruiting isn't as easy as it is at other schools. Another possibility is the perception that it's not a stable situation. What will this be....5th coach in 10 years? Yeah I know Kiffin altered the curve with his abandoning the program, but with the coaching changes, turnover at chancellor and AD, the title 9 issue, conflict with the women's programs and the stupid name controversy...well...it doesn't put UT in the best light. Throw in the venom toward Butch, calls to fire everyone short of the governor including the new AD who hasn't been on the job for little more than 6-7 months and hell, I can see a good coach needing to be sold on uprooting his family and moving them to the hills of east TN. Can't you?

Oh and let's throw in the empty Neyland for homecoming and the allegation of playing a concussed player that likely will be a huge national story with an equally damaging lawsuit if true. Yeah, Knoxville is a great opportunity right now. Hard to imagine someone not wanting to be a part of something so great. :crazy:

 

[rexgrove]

I can not for the life of me understand why we have so much trouble hiring a good coach. Some will say it is a money issue but frankly I believe it goes.further than that. I firmly believe it is because our administration has developed the reputation of not being committed to winning.

A-freaking-men. It's as if our admin seek out mediocrity

 

[Jax_Vol]

Turns out, there was a bunch of lead in our grandpa's corn whiskey stills

 

[utvolpj]

Saban was just the next guy in a long line of successful hires right? UF has been knocking it out of the park too

 

[volfannbama]

I can not for the life of me understand why we have so much trouble hiring a good coach. Some will say it is a money issue but frankly I believe it goes.further than that. I firmly believe it is because our administration has developed the reputation of not being committed to winning.

You should compare CBJs record to the other power 5 coaches hired in the same time frame, you might change your tune.

 

[SkiDaddy]

These coaching hires are a crapshoot at the best.

 

[VolStrom]

Stupid AD. Idiot fired Fulmer and replaced him with a punk, mistake #1. Punk left after 1 year and stupid AD panicked and tried to save the recruiting class and hastily hired a nobody, mistake #2. Mistake #2 turned out to be a POS which required his firing and left Tennessee in a dumpster fire looking for it's forth coach in as many years and we get Butch Jones.

So here we are after 10 years looking for salvation.

Like most companies that fail poor management is often a common thread.

 

[rexgrove]

Saban was just the next guy in a long line of successful hires right? UF has been knocking it out of the park too

Point taken

 

[DiderotsGhost]

Michigan
Rich Rodriguez
Brady Hoke


Florida
Will Muschamp
Jim McElwain


Alabama
Mike DuBose
Dennis Franchione
Mike Price
Mike Shula


Notre Dame
Bob Davie
Ty Willingham
Charlie Weis


USC
Lane Kiffin
Steve Sarkasian
Clay Helton


We're not the only elite football program to struggle with it.

 

[yuenglinguy78]

Or maybe it's a spoiled, petulant fan base with unrealistic expectations?

Seriously....and I was being serious, not everyone wants to live in east tn. Maybe it's a culture thing? Recruiting isn't as easy as it is at other schools. Another possibility is the perception that it's not a stable situation. What will this be....5th coach in 10 years? Yeah I know Kiffin altered the curve with his abandoning the program, but with the coaching changes, turnover at chancellor and AD, the title 9 issue, conflict with the women's programs and the stupid name controversy...well...it doesn't put UT in the best light. Throw in the venom toward Butch, calls to fire everyone short of the governor including the new AD who hasn't been on the job for little more than 6-7 months and hell, I can see a good coach needing to be sold on uprooting his family and moving them to the hills of east TN. Can't you?

Oh and let's throw in the empty Neyland for homecoming and the allegation of playing a concussed player that likely will be a huge national story with an equally damaging lawsuit if true. Yeah, Knoxville is a great opportunity right now. Hard to imagine someone not wanting to be a part of something so great. :crazy:

I can't like this enough. This is the truth.

Why would a coach want to take this all on? Besides one trying to make a name for themselves.

We have a fan base that turns to "holding my breath" hashtag movements.

 

[barknoxbrawler]

Florida hasn't since Urban, took Ala 4 tries before they got Saban..it's not just TN

Nebraska.... Texas....Miami......there is a list. It’s not just us.

 

[VolRoger]

Saban was just the next guy in a long line of successful hires right? UF has been knocking it out of the park too

Alabama was extremely lucky to get Saban. Only took them 5 coaching failures if you count being left at the alter with RichRod. Meyer was bracketed by Zook and Muschamp, two real winners there. Wonder what life would have been like if Rodriguez sticks with Bama? If only....

 

[volberry]

Good thread!!

 

[Lawrence Wright]

Alabama was extremely lucky to get Saban. Only took them 5 coaching failures if you count being left at the alter with RichRod. Meyer was bracketed by Zook and Muschamp, two real winners there. Wonder what life would have been like if Rodriguez sticks with Bama? If only....

UF runs the table in 2009, beats Texas in the Rose Bowl. Tebow goes out winning consecutive NCs and his 3rd in four years, cementing his legacy as the greatest college football player of all-time.

(end dream sequence)

 

[jakez4ut]

Saban was just the next guy in a long line of successful hires right? UF has been knocking it out of the park too

and don't forget, Bama was all set to hire Rich Rod before they got Saban...........

 

[BigOrangeMojo]

We don't pay enough/low-ball candidates and our administration has reputation for not providing support comparable to our rivals.

That's why we strike out with almost every hire in almost every sport.

 

[BigOrangeTrain]

Stupid AD. Idiot fired Fulmer and replaced him with a punk, mistake #1. Punk left after 1 year and stupid AD panicked and tried to save the recruiting class and hastily hired a nobody, mistake #2. Mistake #2 turned out to be a POS which required his firing and left Tennessee in a dumpster fire looking for it's forth coach in as many years and we get Butch Jones.

So here we are after 10 years looking for salvation.

Like most companies that fail poor management is often a common thread.

So much truth in this post. Couldnt have said it better myself.

 

[VolunteerHillbilly]

Apparently we spend about a quarter of football revenue on the program while Bama spends over 50 percent of revenue on their program. That's the answer. Vol leadership does not care about winning.

 

[GetEmVols]

Florida hasn't since Urban, took Ala 4 tries before they got Saban..it's not just TN

and yet they still beat us.

 

[VolRoger]

UF runs the table in 2009, beats Texas in the Rose Bowl. Tebow goes out winning consecutive NCs and his 3rd in four years, cementing his legacy as the greatest college football player of all-time.

(end dream sequence)

Probably (lol). I forgot to mention the part in my dream where the Ohio State job opens up and Meyer goes to the Buckeyes in 2006 (smile).

 

[Fayettvol]

Not alot of top notch coaches are out there. That plus a boorderline insaine fan base and here we are.

 

[Doberman]

Or maybe it's a spoiled, petulant fan base with unrealistic expectations?

Seriously....and I was being serious, not everyone wants to live in east tn. Maybe it's a culture thing? Recruiting isn't as easy as it is at other schools. Another possibility is the perception that it's not a stable situation. What will this be....5th coach in 10 years? Yeah I know Kiffin altered the curve with his abandoning the program, but with the coaching changes, turnover at chancellor and AD, the title 9 issue, conflict with the women's programs and the stupid name controversy...well...it doesn't put UT in the best light. Throw in the venom toward Butch, calls to fire everyone short of the governor including the new AD who hasn't been on the job for little more than 6-7 months and hell, I can see a good coach needing to be sold on uprooting his family and moving them to the hills of east TN. Can't you?

Oh and let's throw in the empty Neyland for homecoming and the allegation of playing a concussed player that likely will be a huge national story with an equally damaging lawsuit if true. Yeah, Knoxville is a great opportunity right now. Hard to imagine someone not wanting to be a part of something so great. :crazy:

Oh yeah, those pesky, spoiled rotten Vol fans, with unrealistic expectations. The same as every other Power 5 fan base.

It’s all their fault .......boo hoo