Why are we ignoring this?

#126
#126
ETV said:
Those voting democrat are doing the exact same thing for HRC. Voting democrat for the sake of it and keeping the status quo. Which offers no real positive change in their life, just more of the same.

Those on the left are just as guilty.
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At this point in time, the known quantity, is very unlikely to have any appreciable effect on my life. I view Trump as unlikely to effect my life, but the prospect that he could have a negative effect I find concerning enough not to vote for him. On the plus side, if Trump is elected we will have 4 years of comedy gold.
 
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1972 Grad said:
You don't understand liberals. They get together, have a meeting, and discuss some problem. By doing this, they think that they have solved the problem. Therefore, to them, words are just as important as action. They don't know that there is a difference.
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Sounds like my family, we have these chats and the kids agree to do certain things, they feel good about it and then never do it. Damn millenials are lazy AF.
 
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ClearwaterVol said:
At this point in time, the known quantity, is very unlikely to have any appreciable effect on my life. I view Trump as unlikely to effect my life, but the prospect that he could have a negative effect I find concerning enough not to vote for him. On the plus side, if Trump is elected we will have 4 years of comedy gold.
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OK, so how will HRC effect your current financial lifestyle? Do you see the possible negative outcome that HRC will bring upon most of the middle class and higher income brackets?
 
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GoVols10 said:
Assuming that no gun nuts were listening, and if this is what Trump meant, it seems as if you don't have a problem with his comments. Why?
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I honestly thought he meant when she tries to do away with the 2nd amendment, the 2A folks would rise up against the tyrannical government. Kind of along the lines of "she'll take our guns out of our cold dead hands." Of course it was in bad taste for a candidate. Especially considering in his hypothetical HRC wants to abolish the 2nd amendment. According to all the HRC supporters on here, HRC has no intention of altering the 2nd amendment.
 
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In October, Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton announced her gun control plan, promising that if she’s elected, she’ll ban some guns and impose other restrictive gun control laws, in some cases without Congress’ approval. Clinton’s plan would prohibit Americans from selling a “significant” number of privately owned guns without a license, prevent gun purchases by indefinitely delaying purchasers’ background checks, repeal the federal law that prevents gun control supporters from pursuing groundless lawsuits designed to stop gun sales by driving firearm manufacturers and dealers out of business, ban all semi-automatic shotguns and detachable-magazine semi-automatic rifles (and some other categories of guns), ban the possession of firearms by people in troubled dating relationships without due process of law, and empower the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives to revoke the licenses of dealers for unintentional recordkeeping errors.

Clinton’s announcement follows her statement equating gun control opponents with terrorists, her statement that the NRA has a “pernicious, corrupting influence,” and her statement to the effect that the Second Amendment doesn’t protect an individual right to keep and bear arms. Clinton thereafter continued her rhetorical attack, comparing the NRA to “the Iranians or the communists,” the latter passing strange, given her early political background.

Clinton Announces Massive Gun Control Plan | The Daily Caller
 
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GoVols10 said:
Assuming that no gun nuts were listening, and if this is what Trump meant, it seems as if you don't have a problem with his comments. Why?
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Because I'm not an elitest and I understood what he was saying. I don't think those of us who support the 2nd amendment are evil and vile peole who have a war on women.
My question is why do you and your ilk hold such disdain for the average American?
 
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ReaderVol said:
Because I'm not an elitest and I understood what he was saying. I don't think those of us who support the 2nd amendment are evil and vile peole who have a war on women.
My question is why do you and your ilk hold such disdain for the average American?
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The average american doesn't support trump. You are in the minority.
 
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ReaderVol said:
How do you know? Oh the polls that never change... LOL
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Yeah, the polls that never change... besides that 8 point swing over the past two weeks.
 
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UTCVol said:
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Yeah, the polls that never change... besides that 8 point swing over the past two weeks.
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Polls are a mute point right now.

If Hillary can manage not to lose her cool and not collapse on the stage from whatever the hell is wrong with her health she will take it.

But you know Trump is going to throw everything he has at her and hope she folds on stage. It's his only chance, a pretty decent one too IMO.
 
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Hayezb said:
Would you hire the guy with no direct experience for the job, or the gal that has repeatedly failed at her job and lied about it but has experience?
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^^^^

This being a really good example of the point that, to cover their ineptitude and pathetic logic, the right resort to ovesimplification to blur the issues.

Bad metaphors, logical fallacy, confirmation bias, straw man, attacks on the messenger, conspiracy theory, conspiracy theory to prove the absence of evidence of the original conspiracy ....

these, my friend, are the hallmarks of the political right in this country. And its why they are getting their azz kicked by a candidate who has such serious flaws as does Clinton.
 
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I believe these polls are manufactured by Clinton sycophants. Create the poll where Trump voters will say oh well he's gonna lose so why bother voting.

Isn't it funny the DNC had to pay $50 for seat fillers and what's even better, hiLIARy can't even fill up a high school lunchroom. Trumps rally's are filled and thousands of people outside wanting in. Never seen that hiLIARy has that problem.
 
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Hayezb said:
Polls are a mute point right now.

If Hillary can manage not to lose her cool and not collapse on the stage from whatever the hell is wrong with her health she will take it.

But you know Trump is going to throw everything he has at her and hope she folds on stage. It's his only chance, a pretty decent one too IMO.
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The debates are an opportunity for him if he can speak competently on the issues. I'm not holding my breath. He'll need a bit of luck and a vastly changed demeanor to win this election.
 
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UTCVol said:
The debates are an opportunity for him if he can speak competently on the issues. I'm not holding my breath. He'll need a bit of luck and a vastly changed demeanor to win this election.
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Wonder how many "bathroom" breaks hiLIARy will need?
 
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UTCVol said:
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Yeah, the polls that never change... besides that 8 point swing over the past two weeks.
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That's kind of my point... using a poll from TODAY about an election in November is foolish.

But the real issue was how Clearwater tried to change what I stated. I stated the average American supports the 2nd amendment not either candidate.
 
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ReaderVol said:
That's kind of my point... using a poll from TODAY about an election in November is foolish.

But the real issue was how Clearwater tried to change what I stated. I stated the average American supports the 2nd amendment not either candidate.
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Do you actually think that the polls are accurate? I don't.
 
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ReaderVol said:
That's kind of my point... using a poll from TODAY about an election in November is foolish.

But the real issue was how Clearwater tried to change what I stated. I stated the average American supports the 2nd amendment not either candidate.
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In Clearwater's defense, it was kind of vague. He probably thought you were saying that the average American supports Trump and didn't have an issue with his comments, given the subject of the thread.
 
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UTCVol said:
In Clearwater's defense, it was kind of vague. He probably thought you were saying that the average American supports Trump and didn't have an issue with his comments, given the subject of the thread.
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It isn't vague at all. Read my post again.
 
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VolStrom said:
Do you actually think that the polls are accurate? I don't.
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In what way? I doubt they're purposefully rigged because it seems to me that showing a sizable Clinton lead would depress turnout from her side rather than Trump supporters.

There could be a methodological flaw for sure, given the strange nature of this election. If there is we'll know it by the time the returns start coming in.
 
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