Who's the best QB in the SEC thru 6 weeks?

#51
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fade route said:
He also has 2 losses against QBs you put below him. Driskel way outperformed bray in knoxville. While Bray was pouting, Driskel led his team to dominate in the 4th quarter. Driskel > Bray.
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QB's dont play the game by themselves, and furthermore anyone who talks like they do is a complete ______

Bray grades out at the top of the list until you get him in a situation where he is trying to carry the entire team in a come from behind victory. He tries to hard to be a hero. Not exactly the worst trait for a QB to have.

He, like the rest of the team gets better every game and it wont be long before they have us back on top
 
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#53
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jabber said:
McCarron has sat out the 2nd half of 2 games and bama leans on there run game a little more.
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Makes absolutely no sense.. so credit him with wins that he sat out half the game, but its also the excuse as to why his stats are worse..

what a joke
 
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fade route said:
He also has 2 losses against QBs you put below him. Driskel way outperformed bray in knoxville. While Bray was pouting, Driskel led his team to dominate in the 4th quarter. Driskel > Bray.
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Driskel wasn't better than Bray. Florida was better than we were. Trey Burton embarassed our defense in the second half.
 
#56
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soda23 said:
I don't.....Conner Shaw has completed over 75% of his passes and has a 184 + qb rating both lead the league . I believe the correct term may be an athletic qb. But he is absolutely a qb
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If his number one option reciver is covered, he is going to run the ball.
 
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ImportedVoL said:
Makes absolutely no sense.. so credit him with wins that he sat out half the game, but its also the excuse as to why his stats are worse..

what a joke
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So bray has 82 more att. and more yards. I bet aj won't throw 6 int's all year.

PASSING AVG/GAME Cl G Comp-Att-Int Pct. Yards TD Long Avg/G
1. Tyler Wilson-AR SR 5 101 - 174 - 5 58.0 1585 9 80 317.0
2. Tyler Bray-UT JR 5 118 - 193 - 6 61.1 1582 14 72 316.4
3. Johnny Manziel-AM FR 5 104 - 150 - 2 69.3 1285 11 80 257.0
4. Aaron Murray-UG JR 6 100 - 161 - 4 62.1 1487 12 67 247.8
5. Tyler Russell-MS JR 5 82 - 145 - 1 56.6 1091 10 72 218.2
6. Jordan Rodgers-VU SR 4 57 - 103 - 2 55.3 831 2 78 207.8
7. AJ McCarron-UA JR 5 73 - 111 - 0 65.8 999 12 85 199.8
8. Z. Mettenberger-LS JR 6 89 - 144 - 3 61.8 1174 6 56 195.7
9. Bo Wallace-UM SO 6 90 - 146 - 8 61.6 1145 8 75 190.8
10. James Franklin-MO JR 5 73 - 119 - 2 61.3 805 4 80 161.0
11. Jeff Driskel-UF SO 5 63 - 91 - 1 69.2 759 4 75 151.8
12. Connor Shaw-SC JR 5 56 - 74 - 2 75.7 733 7 62 146.6
13. Kiehl Frazier-AU SO 5 56 - 103 - 8 54.4 664 2 54 132.8
14. C Berkstresser-MO FR 5 42 - 84 - 1 50.0 501 3 85 100.2
15. Dylan Thompson-SC SO 6 27 - 53 - 0 50.9 510 5 94 85.0

This is were its at!!!

PASS EFFICIENCY Cl G Comp-Att-Int Pct. Yards TD Long Effic.
1. Connor Shaw-SC JR 5 56 - 74 - 2 75.7 733 7 62 184.7
2. AJ McCarron-UA JR 5 73 - 111 - 0 65.8 999 12 85 177.0
3. Dylan Thompson-SC SO 6 27 - 53 - 0 50.9 510 5 94 162.9
4. Johnny Manziel-AM FR 5 104 - 150 - 2 69.3 1285 11 80 162.8
5. Aaron Murray-UG JR 6 100 - 161 - 4 62.1 1487 12 67 159.3
6. Jeff Driskel-UF SO 5 63 - 91 - 1 69.2 759 4 75 151.6
7. Tyler Bray-UT JR 5 118 - 193 - 6 61.1 1582 14 72 147.7
8. Tyler Wilson-AR SR 5 101 - 174 - 5 58.0 1585 9 80 145.9
9. Tyler Russell-MS JR 5 82 - 145 - 1 56.6 1091 10 72 141.1
10. Z. Mettenberger-LS JR 6 89 - 144 - 3 61.8 1174 6 56 139.9
11. Bo Wallace-UM SO 6 90 - 146 - 8 61.6 1145 8 75 134.6
12. James Franklin-MO JR 5 73 - 119 - 2 61.3 805 4 80 125.9
13. Jordan Rodgers-VU SR 4 57 - 103 - 2 55.3 831 2 78 125.6
14. C Berkstresser-MO FR 5 42 - 84 - 1 50.0 501 3 85 109.5
15. Kiehl Frazier-AU SO 5 56 - 103 - 8 54.4 664 2 54 99.4


the jokes in your hand:)
 
#60
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Negateer said:
If talking production, then it's Bray. McCarrons got 999 yards passing, Bray has 1582. McCarrons's got 12 TD passes, Bray has 14. McCarrons been sacked 10 times, Bray 2. It's not even close.

If talking win/loss, it's McCarron. But only noobs rank QBs based solely on win-loss.



Bray is the SEC passing yards leader.

Bray is the SEC passing TD's leader.

His team has the #1 passing offense in the league.

And he's not in your top five?

lol

You're excused.
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What games are responsible for the majority of Bray's stats? Clue, not SEC games, which are all that matter. He's thrown 6 int: 5 have come against the only two teams with a defensive pulse he's faced.
 
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soda23 said:
top qb in the league probably doesn't turn the ball over 3 times in a row in the last half of the 4th qtr in a 7 point game
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In this case he did.

Next?

jabber said:
McCarron has sat out the 2nd half of 2 games and bama leans on there run game a little more.
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Doesn't make up for being almost 100 yards per game average behind Bray. Not even close.

Sorry, we have the top passing offense in the league right now. And you guys are complaining about our QB.

Ridiculous.
 
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bowlinggreenvol said:
Where games are responsible for the majority of Bray's stats? Clue, not SEC games, which are all that matter..
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McCarron hasn't played a single ranked team yet, and he still is averaging under 200 a game.

Bray had 257 against Florida and 281 against Georgia.

Mmmmkay?

Now, do you have another hanging curveball I can hit out of the park?
 
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fade route said:
Bray is a choke job in big games, the other QBs listed are not. You can have all the stats you want, I'll take a QB who is a leader and can win games in the clutch - Bray is none of that.

BTW - simpletons usually are right because they use common sense that should be obvious to everyone
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I agree. He totally choked when he let Trey Burton run right by him. And when he couldn't catch either of Georgia's freshman backs, that was pathetic. He is too slow for a cb, can't set the edge as a de, and isn't eating up enough space when he plays nose.

The coaches definitely need to put the next guy in. We would be undefeated by now.
 
#68
#68
McCarron's overrated. Philip Sims would have just as much success with this team. Heck, that line is so big and good, Freddie Kitchens would look like Manning behind it.
Murray is probably still the best despite that game, but Manziel will be a better QB in the long run.
 
#69
#69
I can't believe Driskel is mentioned. When his Gayfers lose their first game, he will disappear off everybody's radar. All it's gonna take is one loss.
As for Bray, I don't care what is numbers are. Hang 400 on Miss. State instead of Akron this weekend and then we'll talk. He post big numbers this month, THEN you can push him up to the top.
But I think Manzel is the she-it. Johnny Football, baby!
 
#71
#71
Put Bray or Murray on Bama, LSU, Florida or USCe and they would be on the top of the list. Put Shaw, Driskell or McCarron on Tennessee and Georgia then they would be at the bottom. Those schools have way much more to work with in far as talent. Maybe not at the wr position but those teams have running games and a whole lot of D. Bray and Murray would not have to try and do the things that they have to do now if they were on better teams. Not even fair to evaluate the qb positions at this point.
 
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flip999 said:
Put Bray or Murray on Bama, LSU, Florida or USCe and they would be on the top of the list. Put Shaw, Driskell or McCarron on Tennessee and Georgia then they would be at the bottom. Those schools have way much more to work with in far as talent. Maybe not at the wr position but those teams have running games and a whole lot of D. Bray and Murray would not have to try and do the things that they have to do now if they were on better teams. Not even fair to evaluate the qb positions at this point.
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Isn't it amazing that some folks still don't get this, and try to rate QBs based on how good their teams are?
 
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flip999 said:
Put Bray or Murray on Bama, LSU, Florida or USCe and they would be on the top of the list. Put Shaw, Driskell or McCarron on Tennessee and Georgia then they would be at the bottom. Those schools have way much more to work with in far as talent. Maybe not at the wr position but those teams have running games and a whole lot of D. Bray and Murray would not have to try and do the things that they have to do now if they were on better teams. Not even fair to evaluate the qb positions at this point.
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I absolutely would not put Bray and Murray in this same paragraph. As usual, Georgia has the tools to be a NC contender, but CMR managed to find a way not to win again. Hell, he almost found a way to lose against us.

In any case, the talent difference between Georgia and the other top teams is non-existent. What they lack is a coach that can beat a decent Steve Spurrier team (much like us for the last 20 years).
 
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Negateer said:
McCarron hasn't played a single ranked team yet
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Michigan is #25 in the AP poll.

and he still is averaging under 200 a game.

Bray had 257 against Florida and 281 against Georgia.
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McCarron has taken way fewer snaps than Bray. In the same number of games, Bray has thrown 193 passes to McCarron's 111.

McCarron's completion % = 65.8
Bray's = 61.1

McCarron's yards per attempt = 9.0
Bray's = 8.2

McCarron's attempts per touchdown = 9.25
Bray's = 13.8
 
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#75
#75
""" In the same number of games, Bray has thrown 193 passes to McCarron's 111."""

Yup, and we're talking production.

Ya might want to consult the dictionary.
 
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