Who's the best QB in the SEC thru 6 weeks?

#28
#28
All qbs look bad with no time. Im interested to see how Shaw does with that defensive line of LSUs in front of a hostile Baton Rouge crowd.
 
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tnvols72 said:
No way ,Driskel is better than Bray
Not so sure Murray is.He is about like Bray you pressure him and he gets rattled.Bray has thrown balls also that have been dropped.
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not sure if you watched the game but Driskell made huge plays when they needed it most - the short yardage run to seal the game against a top 5 team - he also made some critical plays against A&M - he has led his team to wins against quality SEC opponents - something Bray has yet to do

he is not near the pro prospect but right now I would def say he is better than Bray if were just comparing them as a college QB in their respective systems
 
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I think after last night Bray goes over Murray. Murray played scared last night; Bray might not always have the best attitude but he has never been scared
 
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tenmanjonez said:
I'm not talking pro potential, anything like that. Thru these 6 particular game, how would you rank, let's go to top 5 qb's in the sec?

Personally, based off of pure effectiveness thru 6 games, I'd have to go"

McCarron
Driskel (These 2 are a good bit ahead of the next 3 imo)
Shaw (Although I don't think he's even the best QB on his team)
Manziel
and 5th is difficult, but it's down to Murray and Bray to me. I'd probably go with Murray just because he holds the H2H Win vs Bray.

What are your thoughts?
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Driskel shouldn't be on any list that has anything to do with QB's and being good.
 
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florida and sc don't win these tight games without Driskell and Shaw. Bama, ga and A & M probably have the same if they were using the 2nd string.

So, for the current SEC football environment, I go with Shaw, Driskell, McCarron, Murray
 
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Spartacavolus said:
florida and sc don't win these tight games without Driskell and Shaw. Bama, ga and A & M probably have the same if they were using the 2nd string.

So, for the current SEC football environment, I go with Shaw, Driskell, McCarron, Murray
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Driskel was a non factor in the win over LSU. If anything he almost cost them the game. Florida won because they ran the hell out of the ball (9 passes all night maybe?), LSU lost their entire D by the fourth quarter almost, and the LSU offense was absolutely horrendous. I mean, they converted what, one third down not by a penalty?
 
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I think the top 5-- McCarron, Murray, Shaw and JD/JM/TW can change on any given Saturday. Bray is definitely there in talent and arm strength, but not overall. Having a QB who panics, hates to get hit, can't run, is unreliable, can't close and isn't a strong leader/motivator can be a liability in clutch games. Bray has the skill set to be elite, but he isn't there yet. He's not a natural fit for the SEC. IMO, we would have been better if we had kept Tajh Boyd.
 
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DarthVisor said:
If talking pure talent, then it's Bray, and it isn't close. If talking production, then it's McCarron.
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If talking production, then it's Bray. McCarrons got 999 yards passing, Bray has 1582. McCarrons's got 12 TD passes, Bray has 14. McCarrons been sacked 10 times, Bray 2. It's not even close.

If talking win/loss, it's McCarron. But only noobs rank QBs based solely on win-loss.

LA Vol said:
I think the top 5-- McCarron, Murray, Shaw and JD/JM/TW can change on any given Saturday. Bray is definitely there in talent and arm strength, but not overall. .
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Bray is the SEC passing yards leader.

Bray is the SEC passing TD's leader.

His team has the #1 passing offense in the league.

And he's not in your top five?

lol

You're excused.
 
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fade route said:
He also has 2 losses against QBs you put below him.
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Let me try yet again to explain something to you:

You see, those teams were better than Bray's team.

Mmmkay, simpleton?

The thread is about who's the best QB, not who's the quarterback on the best team.

volbrawler said:
Best QB or best looking QB on the best team?
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Faderoute doesn't realize there's a difference.
 
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Negateer said:
Let me try yet again to explain something to you:

You see, those teams were better than Bray's team.

Mmmkay, simpleton?

The thread is about who's the best QB, not who's the quarterback on the best team.



Faderoute doesn't realize there's a difference.
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Bray is a choke job in big games, the other QBs listed are not. You can have all the stats you want, I'll take a QB who is a leader and can win games in the clutch - Bray is none of that.

BTW - simpletons usually are right because they use common sense that should be obvious to everyone
 
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DjCrenshaw said:
I think shaw should be ranked as an athelete, not as a qb.
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I don't.....Conner Shaw has completed over 75% of his passes and has a 184 + qb rating both lead the league . I believe the correct term may be an athletic qb. But he is absolutely a qb
 
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Driskel is not in the top 3. People are basically putting him there because he hands the ball off the Gilly, doesn't turn the ball over, and makes a couple nice runs a game. He's a good game manager, but an extremely average QB at this point in his career.
 
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fade route said:
Bray is a choke job in big games, the other QBs listed are not. You can have all the stats you want, I'll take a QB who is a leader and can win games in the clutch - Bray is none of that.

BTW - simpletons usually are right because they use common sense that should be obvious to everyone
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i like that bray is a choke artist because he had turnovers in the first close game we have had in 3 years and our offense put up 37 points that game...i cant believe this is even a discussion. murray and bray are leagues above every other qb in the sec. mccarron driskel and shaw probably dont combine for as many pass attempts or yards on any given weekend as bray or murray...they have 3 of the best defenses in the country and 3 of the best rushing games in the country to fall back on...little bit easier to play with no pressure on you when the offense just has to score 1 td at some point to win a game
 
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Negateer said:
If talking production, then it's Bray. McCarrons got 999 yards passing, Bray has 1582. McCarrons's got 12 TD passes, Bray has 14. McCarrons been sacked 10 times, Bray 2. It's not even close.

If talking win/loss, it's McCarron. But only noobs rank QBs based solely on win-loss.



Bray is the SEC passing yards leader.

Bray is the SEC passing TD's leader.

His team has the #1 passing offense in the league.

And he's not in your top five?

lol

You're excused.
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McCarron has sat out the 2nd half of 2 games and bama leans on there run game a little more.
 
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