Who Would Have Guessed?

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Hoosier_Vol said:
That Arkansas,UCLA and Nebraska would be a combined 1-12 at this point. o_O
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Poor Scott Frost. This may be one of the few times moving from a Group of 5 to a Power 5 could be seen as a legitimate downgrade.

Nebraska will be lucky to make a bowl game at all, while UCF is thinking of a repeat to the Peach Bowl or Fiesta Bowl.
 
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I never thought I'd see the day that Nebraska was this bad. They won at least 9 games and finish ranked in every season from 1969-2001. Since they fired Frank Solich at the end of the 03 season, they've lost at least 4 games each year and finished unranked 8 times. Now it appears he bottom has fallen completely out.
 
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MyBloodRunnethOrange said:
I never thought I'd see the day that Nebraska was this bad. They won at least 9 games and finish ranked in every season from 1969-2001. Since they fired Frank Solich at the end of the 03 season, they've lost at least 4 games each year and finished unranked 8 times. Now it appears he bottom has fallen completely out.
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Sounds like another program...
 
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Biggest mistake Nebraska made was joining the Big10. Stupid!!!!!!!
killed recruiting.
 
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YankeeVol said:
It was a stupid decision
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They were freaked out at the time that the Big 12 was about to unravel and they aren't a big enough program like Texas or Oklahoma to weather it. They were almost forced into it from a financial perspective.

Unfortunately for them the conference they were a natural fit for splintered.
 
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05_never_again said:
They were freaked out at the time that the Big 12 was about to unravel and they aren't a big enough program like Texas or Oklahoma to weather it. They were almost forced into it from a financial perspective.

Unfortunately for them the conference they were a natural fit for splintered.
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I'm showing my age, but $$$ ruins a boat load of stuff.
 
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peaygolf said:
I'm showing my age, but $$$ ruins a boat load of stuff.
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I'm not really sure what else they were supposed to do, though. In 2011 and 2012 there were real fears that the Big 12 was going to completely split apart. Nebraska isn't a Texas or Oklahoma-type of program (not anymore) that could, for an indefinite period of time, go independent.

They wanted to get off a ship they thought was sinking, and unfortunately for them there isn't another conference for them to naturally fit into. They are a worse fit in the Big Ten than Colorado is in the Pac-12 or Missouri is in the SEC, but Nebraska absolutely wouldn't belong in the Pac-12 or SEC, so that was honestly their best option.

Despite their public comments at the time, I think the administration made that move knowing it would hurt recruiting and knowing they'd just have to start recruiting nationally to an even greater extent. The Texas kids they used to recruit don't want to play in the Big Ten, and the Big Ten kids in Michigan, Ohio, Pennsylvania, etc. don't want to go out to Nebraska.
 
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05_never_again said:
I'm not really sure what else they were supposed to do, though. In 2011 and 2012 there were real fears that the Big 12 was going to completely split apart. Nebraska isn't a Texas or Oklahoma-type of program (not anymore) that could, for an indefinite period of time, go independent.

They wanted to get off a ship they thought was sinking, and unfortunately for them there isn't another conference for them to naturally fit into. They are a worse fit in the Big Ten than Colorado is in the Pac-12 or Missouri is in the SEC.
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Bring back the Big8.:cool:
 
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05_never_again said:
I'm not really sure what else they were supposed to do, though. In 2011 and 2012 there were real fears that the Big 12 was going to completely split apart. Nebraska isn't a Texas or Oklahoma-type of program (not anymore) that could, for an indefinite period of time, go independent.

They wanted to get off a ship they thought was sinking, and unfortunately for them there isn't another conference for them to naturally fit into. They are a worse fit in the Big Ten than Colorado is in the Pac-12 or Missouri is in the SEC, but Nebraska absolutely wouldn't belong in the Pac-12 or SEC, so that was honestly their best option.

Despite their public comments at the time, I think the administration made that move knowing it would hurt recruiting and knowing they'd just have to start recruiting nationally to an even greater extent. The Texas kids they used to recruit don't want to play in the Big Ten, and the Big Ten kids in Michigan, Ohio, Pennsylvania, etc. don't want to go out to Nebraska.
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It wasn’t just the fear. As alluded to, the money talked. The Big 10 TV contract and revenue sharing are way more lucrative than anything the Big 12 could offer. I doubt the university sees it as a mistake at all.
 
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hUTch2002 said:
It wasn’t just the fear. As alluded to, the money talked. The Big 10 TV contract and revenue sharing are way more lucrative than anything the Big 12 could offer. I doubt the university sees it as a mistake at all.
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like I said, money ruins most things. Not all, but most.
The University might like it now, but when Nebraska football completely becomes another former power that has no chance to compete (Minnesota,Maryland, ect..), the sell-outs at the stadium come to an end, and boosters stop dropping cash.......they will regret it. Lincoln becomes a ghost town.
 
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peaygolf said:
like I said, money ruins most things. Not all, but most.
The University might like it now, but when Nebraska football completely becomes another former power that has no chance to compete (Minnesota,Maryland, ect..), the sell-outs at the stadium come to an end, and boosters stop dropping cash.......they will regret it. Lincoln becomes a ghost town.
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They can still be a relevant program if they figure out how to recruit nationally. Tom Osborne did get Texas talent during their heyday, but they also recruited nationally because there is zilch in-state talent. They haven't been relevant in a very long time, but they do have a recognizable brand. Kind of reminds of an orange school further east. A lot of what you say about Nebraska can be said about Tennessee, except we do have more in-state kids.
 
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05_never_again said:
They can still be a relevant program if they figure out how to recruit nationally. Tom Osborne did get Texas talent during their heyday, but they also recruited nationally because there is zilch in-state talent. They haven't been relevant in a very long time, but they do have a recognizable brand. Kind of reminds of an orange school further east. A lot of what you say about Nebraska can be said about Tennessee, except we do have more in-state kids.
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I see that, but Nebraska doesn't even border any recruiting "hotbeds". They used to get a lot of guys from Fl, Ca, and Tx. That orange school to the east will always have the Carolina's, Ga, Al, and Ms next door. I really can see Nebraska becoming a Minnesota. Great in the past and a total nobody today.
 
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peaygolf said:
I see that, but Nebraska doesn't even border any recruiting "hotbeds". They used to get a lot of guys from Fl, Ca, and Tx. That orange school to the east will always have the Carolina's, Ga, Al, and Ms next door. I really can see Nebraska becoming a Minnesota. Great in the past and a total nobody today.
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I think Frost and NU will be successful again sooner rather than later. Huskers have the $$ and name brand to stay relevant in college football.
 
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Hoosier_Vol said:
I think Frost and NU will be successful again sooner rather than later. Huskers have the $$ and name brand to stay relevant in college football.
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I don't have a dog in the hunt, but I hope so. College football is better when Nebraska is good. Just not that good. Anyone that trounces UF like they did is ok with me.
 
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peaygolf said:
I see that, but Nebraska doesn't even border any recruiting "hotbeds". They used to get a lot of guys from Fl, Ca, and Tx. That orange school to the east will always have the Carolina's, Ga, Al, and Ms next door. I really can see Nebraska becoming a Minnesota. Great in the past and a total nobody today.
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Right, they don't border any hotbeds, so they'll have to recruit nationally. That's their only option at this point. I wonder what the sales pitch is though to the talent-rich areas.

Texas kids don't want to play in the Big Ten. Big Ten kids (Michigan/Ohio/Pennsylvania) don't want to go to Nebraska. California kids might not quite have the conference loyalty, but they live in California. Do they really want to play college ball in Nebraska? Florida kids want to play in the SEC.

I totally agree that Tennessee has an easier path to the top than Nebraska. It is a pretty big uphill battle for them, but I think recruiting Texas and California is probably their best option.
 
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