Who Redshirted This Year?

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LWSVOL said:
He had medical issues his first year. Will depend on how that documented that season for him to get 6th year.. he was having the blood issues and they ended up remvoing his spleen after his rs freshmen year.
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I love that kid, he has got to have some serious heart.
 
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LWSVOL said:
He had medical issues his first year. Will depend on how that documented that season for him to get 6th year.. he was having the blood issues and they ended up remvoing his spleen after his rs freshmen year.
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Training staff better have done their jobs by keeping good paperwork. Thanks so much for the answer. The kid deserves a 6th year for all he has gone thru!
 
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BruinVol said:
NCAA won't give a 6th year if a normal RS year was used. I have stated this numerous times here so please google med shirt rules before saying I am wrong. Not trying to be a jerk sorry.
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i wasn't debating you, just adding some info that I was aware of. Simmer down cowboy.
 
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BruinVol said:
NCAA won't give a 6th year if a normal RS year was used. I have stated this numerous times here so please google med shirt rules before saying I am wrong. Not trying to be a jerk sorry.
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I know you have stated this repeatedly, but I also know there are a reasonably large number of players who have gotten a 6th year of eligibility over the past decade at various programs.

Please explain how they did so?
 
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LWSVOL said:
Hunter will be a redshirt sophomore next year. Lathers can't appeal for an additional redshirt year until after next season
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No, he'll still be a junior. As someone else said, you can't actually apply for the medical hardship until after your 4 years of eligibility is up. I seriously doubt we'll have him after 3 years, let alone 5.
 
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Outdors21 said:
I know you have stated this repeatedly, but I also know there are a reasonably large number of players who have gotten a 6th year of eligibility over the past decade at various programs.

Please explain how they did so?
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In order to have a hardship granted a player must have missed significant time in two years. If an athlete played for any amount of time during a year, then you can't redshirt. Do you see how the two aren't possible (RSr. getting a hardship)?

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To attempt to make it a little clearer.

Therefore, when a player is given a 6th year, they are essentially given their "3rd" year to play (missed pretty much two full seasons due to injury). A redshirt senior however has had 5 full years where he's been eligible to play. Even if he was injured in one of those, that would still give them 4 years total. More than the "three" that a 6th year hardship player would've had.
 
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ThunderVol11 said:
In order to have a hardship granted a player must have missed significant time in two years. If you'll played any time at all during a year, then you can't redshirt. Do you see how the two aren't possible (RSr. getting a hardship)?
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I do. So essentially, the Medical redshirt is only for TWO seasons being ruined by injury if the regular redshirt was used.
 
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ThunderVol11 said:
No, he'll still be a junior. As someone else said, you can't actually apply for the medical hardship until after your 4 years of eligibility is up. I seriously doubt we'll have him after 3 years, let alone 5.
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Perhaps, but not wise to argue LWSVOL.
 
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ThunderVol11 said:
In order to have a hardship granted a player must have missed significant time in two years. If an athlete played for any amount of time during a year, then you can't redshirt. Do you see how the two aren't possible (RSr. getting a hardship)?

Therefore, when a player is given a 6th year, they are essentially given their "3rd" year to play (missed pretty much two full seasons due to injury). A redshirt senior however has had 5 full years where he's been eligible to play. Even if he was injured in one of those, that would still give them 4 years total. More than the "three" given to a 6th year senior.
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Case Keenum - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Boom
 
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mchandl7 said:
Case Keenum - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Boom
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I don't know how they pulled it off for Keenum, but per this site.

http://www.collegeathletictrainer.org/newsletter/getfile.php?fetch=1_2_1

A similar request is to waive the five-year period of eligibility and extend a sixth year. This requires two out of five years of circumstances beyond the control of the student athlete. An incapacitating medical circumstance would be one example of a qualifying condition. A voluntary redshirt year would not.


Like I said, not sure how they did it? But kudos to their staff for pulling it off.
 
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Outdors21 said:
I know you have stated this repeatedly, but I also know there are a reasonably large number of players who have gotten a 6th year of eligibility over the past decade at various programs.

Please explain how they did so?
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I have stated this numerous times and I don't want to sound like a jerk. Sorry if it comes of that way. I work in college athletics and know the rule very well.

The ncaa only grants a 6th year if both years a kid didn't play was due to medical reason or rendered unable to play for some reason outside of a football decision. All guys that get a 6th year have to prove both RS years were medical meaning they played 4 years.. That's why Lathers must prove to the NCAA he was injured his first year. Look back at all other cases and you will see it including the kid from Houston.
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ThunderVol11 said:
I don't know how they pulled it off for Keenum, but per this site.

http://www.collegeathletictrainer.org/newsletter/getfile.php?fetch=1_2_1

A similar request is to waive the five-year period of eligibility and extend a sixth year. This requires two out of five years of circumstances beyond the control of the student athlete. An incapacitating medical circumstance would be one example of a qualifying condition. A voluntary redshirt year would not.


Like I said, not sure how they did it? But kudos to their staff for pulling it off.
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Almost certain they found an article written in the newspaper stating he had an injured shoulder to present to the NCAA. Sounds crazy by that's what I read somewhere.
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BruinVol said:
I have stated this numerous times and I don't want to sound like a jerk. Sorry if it comes of that way. I work in college athletics and know the rule very well.

The ncaa only grants a 6th year if both years a kid didn't play was due to medical reason or rendered unable to play for some reason outside of a football decision. All guys that get a 6th year have to prove both RS years were medical meaning they played 4 years.. That's why Lathers must prove to the NCAA he was injured his first year. Look back at all other cases and you will see it including the kid from Houston.
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I'm sure you have posted it numerous times, and wasn't trying to poke the bear. As you know, this board usually needs things clarified over and over. This is just once instance.

Thanks for taking the time.
 
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BruinVol said:
Almost certain they found an article written in the newspaper stating he had an injured shoulder to present to the NCAA. Sounds crazy by that's what I read somewhere.
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No I agree with you. I knew it had to have been something like that. I was arguing that it couldn't be done without TWO years affected by injury and then someone pointed out Keenum. I looked at his Wikipedia page and saw where he had a redshirt year and played all the other years and I just couldn't figure it out. That makes sense though.
 
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VolinDawgland said:
i wasn't debating you, just adding some info that I was aware of. Simmer down cowboy.
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I didn't mean to come across that way. I apologize if it came across that way. I have argued this subject so many times I took it out on you.
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Outdors21 said:
I'm sure you have posted it numerous times, and wasn't trying to poke the bear. As you know, this board usually needs things clarified over and over. This is just once instance.

Thanks for taking the time.
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No problem.
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ThunderVol11 said:
No I agree with you. I knew it had to have been something like that. I was arguing that it couldn't be done without TWO years affected by injury and then someone pointed out Keenum. I looked at his Wikipedia page and saw where he had a redshirt year and played all the other years and I just couldn't figure it out. That makes sense though.
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If I am DD I am asking Hubbs to write an article right now about Tom Smith and an injury that ended his year to make sure he could get a 6th year if he gets injured again.
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#47
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ThunderVol11 said:
No, he'll still be a junior. As someone else said, you can't actually apply for the medical hardship until after your 4 years of eligibility is up. I seriously doubt we'll have him after 3 years, let alone 5.
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when I get a few minutes, i will find you many examples of players playing as much as hunter did this year and immedately getting redshirts.
 
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LWSVOL said:
when I get a few minutes, i will find you many examples of players playing as much as hunter did this year and immedately getting redshirts.
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Wow, thundervol has absolutely no clue what he's talking about. Color me shocked. LWS, you'd enjoy his statement that UK to Tennessee is a lateral move for Tee Martin.
 
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ThunderVol11 said:
No, he'll still be a junior. As someone else said, you can't actually apply for the medical hardship until after your 4 years of eligibility is up. I seriously doubt we'll have him after 3 years, let alone 5.
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I'm attaching a link to Tyler Love at Alabama.

Tyler played one game in his true freshman year and got hurt and received a "medical redshirt". If you like I will find more but this one seems really, really clear so I'm not sure it makes any sense to go further. Just let me know if this will work.

Player Bio: Tyler Love - ALABAMA CRIMSON TIDE - University of Alabama Official Athletic Site

there are dozens of examples..

2008 (REDSHIRT): He received a medical redshirt for his freshman season at the Capstone in 2008 ... played in only one game vs. Western Kentucky before an injury cost him his season.
 
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ThunderVol11 said:
No, he'll still be a junior. As someone else said, you can't actually apply for the medical hardship until after your 4 years of eligibility is up. I seriously doubt we'll have him after 3 years, let alone 5.
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check Barrett Jones while on Alabama site.

2008 (REDSHIRT): He played in three games as a true freshman before a shoulder injury ended his season ... saw action against Western Kentucky and participated in two SEC games at Arkansas and at home against Kentucky ... earned a medical redshirt.
 
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