Who read Randy Moore today?

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Discusses Phil being ranked 8th among SEC coaches and in real danger of losing his gig if there is no C-ship.
 
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He's mostly quoting Dienert from Sporting News. My favorite quote, and one that I can agree with:

"Checking in at No. 7 – one spot above Fulmer – is Vanderbilt's Bobby Johnson. Dienhart explains his pick in these words: “Ask yourself this question: If Johnson coached Tennessee, do you think he'd ever lose to Vandy? You know the answer to that deep down in your Big Orange heart.”
 
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My favorite quote:

"Spurrier WILL win big in Columbia. He's just gotta. He's too good.”

That's hard-hitting journalism at its best.
 
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VolunteerHillbilly said:
He's mostly quoting Dienert from Sporting News. My favorite quote, and one that I can agree with:

"Checking in at No. 7 – one spot above Fulmer – is Vanderbilt's Bobby Johnson. Dienhart explains his pick in these words: “Ask yourself this question: If Johnson coached Tennessee, do you think he'd ever lose to Vandy? You know the answer to that deep down in your Big Orange heart.”
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see, and that's fine and all.......and i personally think Johnson is a good coach too. but what, exactly has he really accomplished? he beat the worst TN team in 20 years. how many times has Vandy beaten TN since 1981? twice. that means TN has beaten Vandy, regardless of who the coach was 23 of 25 times.......and no one cares, until TN loses.

this just confirms the notion, and i don't disagree with it mind you, that some of these games really don't matter, unless you lose them. and the Vandy game is one of them. If TN had never lost to Vandy in 05, no one would say one thing about Johnson vs. Fulmer.....and on the same token, no one would be touting FUlmer as some great coach as compared to Johnson........this guy got more mileage out of that one win than anything i've ever seen.......this was the same team that lost to MTSU with a bowl game on the line.........ridiculous article on both accounts.

i don't need that kind of crap to convince me that CPF has issues..........and if that is what changes someones mind about the matter or is what makes someone decide how they feel about the matter, then i would question how much about football and the SEC that individual really knows.

the Vandy game that year was not the game that i FINALLY said to myslef......."we're not very good". If it took that long in to that season for you to figure it out.......sorry for you. the poor play, preparation and execution of that season that led to 6 losses were well entrenched in to the season long before we lost to Vandy. it was just the cherry on the top of a crapola pie.

like i said, i don't even necessarily disagree with where TD had him ranked or whatever.......but to think that the vandy game was the "dealbreaker".........jeez. just irks me. we get it. everyone is better than CPF and TN......thanks for playing. can we get on to something that we haven't had crammed down our throats now?
 
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My blog has a better list than Dienhart could ever imagine. He's clueless.

I've given my spiel about why Johnson is the most overrated SEC coach, and GAVol helped with the argument.
 
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UT IE 95 said:
That was an offensive nightmare season. That OC is gone now. Move on.
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Actually, UT 2005 was only 4% worse offensively in SEC games than the UT 2006 offense. Nightmare? No. Terrible leadership and terrible decision making? Yes.
 
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VolinArizona said:
My blog has a better list than Dienhart could ever imagine. He's clueless.

I've given my spiel about why Johnson is the most overrated SEC coach, and GAVol helped with the argument.
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:lol: I think I developed a facial tic when I saw another ranking with Bobby Johnson listed above Fulmer.
 
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VolinArizona said:
Actually, UT 2005 was only 4% worse offensively in SEC games than the UT 2006 offense. Nightmare? No. Terrible leadership and terrible decision making? Yes.
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That only serves to prove that we were mediocre in 2006 as well. Mediocre in 07= nightmare.
 
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Lexvol said:
That only serves to prove that we were mediocre in 2006 as well. Mediocre in 07= nightmare.
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Exactly. The more real research I do, I realize 2005 was terrible not because of Randy Sanders, but because of other things. And I also realize 2006 wasn't all that great - our total offensive numbers were beefed up against Cal, Memphis, and Marshall, whereas in our 8 SEC games, we were average. Part of it was due to Ainge's injury, but why should you EVER call a QB draw with a less-than mobile pocket passer?
 
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GAVol said:
:lol: I think I developed a facial tic when I saw another ranking with Bobby Johnson listed above Fulmer.
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hence my rant earlier.

you want to say Richt, Spurrier, MEyere etc...are better than CPF......fine, no problem, no argument.

but Bobby Johnson? UGH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! enough is enough.
 
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VolinArizona said:
Exactly. The more real research I do, I realize 2005 was terrible not because of Randy Sanders, but because of other things. And I also realize 2006 wasn't all that great - our total offensive numbers were beefed up against Cal, Memphis, and Marshall, whereas in our 8 SEC games, we were average. Part of it was due to Ainge's injury, but why should you EVER call a QB draw with a less-than mobile pocket passer?
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If I had to pin one thing on Sanders, it would only be the love he had for Rick Clausen. I honestly think half the posters on this board could throw an out route with more zip than RC. After watching Ainge last season, it is hard to make an argument that RC should have even been given consideration for a starting job. Especially when he earned the opportunity by beating a bad Texas A&M team in a meaningless bowl.
 
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VolinArizona said:
Exactly. The more real research I do, I realize 2005 was terrible not because of Randy Sanders, but because of other things. And I also realize 2006 wasn't all that great - our total offensive numbers were beefed up against Cal, Memphis, and Marshall, whereas in our 8 SEC games, we were average. Part of it was due to Ainge's injury, but why should you EVER call a QB draw with a less-than mobile pocket passer?
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ok, that one specific play not withstanding, the reason the offense lacked last year in SEC play was simply due to one thing.......the running game. Ainge's injury (it's football, injuries happen) had nothing to do with that.

we couldn't run against any of the better defenses we faced......we could throw. and that's what we did. in 05, we didn't do either one particularly well, against anyone.
 
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Ainge's injury certainly had something to do with our running game. It changed the defenses being played against us during the games he was out.
 
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VolinArizona said:
Actually, UT 2005 was only 4% worse offensively in SEC games than the UT 2006 offense. Nightmare? No. Terrible leadership and terrible decision making? Yes.
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I hadn't broken down just the league games - interesting. I thought it would have been a bigger difference.

And I agree that leadership and decision making were rock bottom in 05. Those are things the current OC is changing big time.
 
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therickbol said:
Ainge's injury certainly had something to do with our running game. It changed the defenses being played against us during the games he was out.
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really? do you really believe that? do you think in the LSU or ARK games that anyone truly beleived we were going to run over either of those defenses? uh, no. now not having ainge in those games made it a little easier to game plan since you didn't have to necessarily worry about the passing game at full strength, i'll grant you that.

but we couldn't run because we couldn't run. if anything, ainge's injury just showed it off even more, cause at that point, in those games........sure would have been nice to hand the ball of to a guy that was getting 4+ yds a carry all season.........
 
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05-poor QB, WR play
06-poor offensive line play
07-?

I would guess the WR will be green and make their share of mistakes. The offensive line lost 2 starters on the left side. TE, RB is a +.

07 could be special on offense, have a senior QB coming back from his best year ever and an explosive RB with great speed.
 
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Lexvol said:
If I had to pin one thing on Sanders, it would only be the love he had for Rick Clausen. I honestly think half the posters on this board could throw an out route with more zip than RC. After watching Ainge last season, it is hard to make an argument that RC should have even been given consideration for a starting job. Especially when he earned the opportunity by beating a bad Texas A&M team in a meaningless bowl.
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I have to disagree here. In preseason scrimmages Clausen's completion percentage was near 70%. Ainge's was around 40%. Personally, I think we beat South Carolina in a squeaker if Clausen plays the whole game. I don't blame Sanders for playing Rick, but I do blame him for not getting Ainge ready.
 
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