Who is to blame for injures

Who is to blame for injures?

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#27
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Gremlins.

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#29
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austin_vol said:
With news that Kamara may be out injured too who is to blame for all the injures?
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A number of the recent injuries have been concussions. There is NO defense for concussions. It seems that there were a lot of hit to the head by Bama players and none were called. We needed the open date in the worst way.
 
#31
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Just bad luck?????? Seriously? I played college ball and our S&C coach made sure we where in a positive position to compete in EVERY game. It's a known fact that the stronger you are in all physical aspects, the LEAST likely you are getting hurt. I know there's the roll up on ankles for receivers, the double teams for DL men, and the concern for OL getting turned the wrong way on a block but they wear braces to reduce that.

LUCK isn't a part of it, contact and being physically fit to take the abuse that the game demands is the most important part into injuries. LUCK, maybe but the chances are slimmer when the body is in shape. We need a true and proven S&C coach... plain and simple.

Hamstrings, hip pointers, stingers, and turf toe would constitute just bad luck, other than that, it's all about conditioning. Sorry, but I don't buy luck.
 
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austin_vol said:
With news that Kamara may be out injured too who is to blame for all the injures?
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Not saying the coaches don't deserve blame for some stuff, because they do... but if anyone is seriously trying to implicate them in AK's injury, then come ON with that. Only VN would even attempt to do that. It was a POS hit from a POS player on a POS football program.
 
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volnal said:
Just bad luck?????? Seriously? I played college ball and our S&C coach made sure we where in a positive position to compete in EVERY game. It's a known fact that the stronger you are in all physical aspects, the LEAST likely you are getting hurt. I know there's the roll up on ankles for receivers, the double teams for DL men, and the concern for OL getting turned the wrong way on a block but they wear braces to reduce that.

LUCK isn't a part of it, contact and being physically fit to take the abuse that the game demands is the most important part into injuries. LUCK, maybe but the chances are slimmer when the body is in shape. We need a true and proven S&C coach... plain and simple.

Hamstrings, hip pointers, stingers, and turf toe would constitute just bad luck, other than that, it's all about conditioning. Sorry, but I don't buy luck.
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Wow.

Ok then, show me any sort of trend with these injuries.
 
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fade route said:
So has every person in America who plays tackle football
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That is true, but we have been unlucky in that our player's hits have resulted in more severe injury or concussions. Of course it does not help when for example Kamara takes a helmet to the hip a yard out of bounds or when Forman takes a helmet to the shoulder or Berry takes a helmet hit so hard it knocks his mouth-guard out. Some of those hits I feel were intentional.
 
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WallyBalls said:
Wow.

Ok then, show me any sort of trend with these injuries.
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The trend SA is strength and conditioning!!!!!!! Are you too blind to see we aren't as strong in that area as we were last year? If not, go watch girls volleyball. DS


I had two serious injuries in college, first was cracked ribs and still played, and my last game as a Sr, tore my ACL. Missed the Gulf Coast South Conference championship. It wasn't bad luck with the ACL, it was being hit while turned. I was in the wrong position and something had to give. Yes there is LUCK involved in football I agree, the way the ball lands, the spot from the ref's, hell even the calls from the ref's but to blame injuries on bad luck doesn't sit well with me sir!

Now I may be wrong if so I'll admit it but there's a deeper issue and that lies solely on the S&C coach.
 
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#37
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May as well blame it on rap music.....would be just as responsible as any of the coaches including Jones.
 
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WallyBalls said:
Wow.

Ok then, show me any sort of trend with these injuries.
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most are lower extremity, and most have occurred to guys on the LOS. especially the O line.

i think there is something to the technique and body positioning that doesn't help prevent injuries.

and s&c does help in general as well.

i think it's kind of hard to look at the last 2 springs, and this season and not at least have it all evaluated.

bad luck is what happens to Chubb or Tuttle. to have as many ankle and knee issues to linemen....it could be bad luck...but the quantity of these injuries and the frequency....i don't have any problem with the question being asked.
 
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volnal said:
The trend SA is strength and conditioning!!!!!!! Are you too blind to see we aren't as strong in that area as we were last year? If not, go watch girls volleyball. DS


I had two serious injuries in college, first was cracked ribs and still played, and my last game as a Sr, tore my ACL. Missed the Gulf Coast South Conference championship. It wasn't bad luck with the ACL, it was being hit while turned. I was in the wrong position and something had to give. Yes there is LUCK involved in football I agree, the way the ball lands, the spot from the ref's, hell even the calls from the ref's but to blame injuries on bad luck doesn't sit well with me sir!

Now I may be wrong if so I'll admit it but there's a deeper issue and that lies solely on the S&C coach.
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The trend is 'strength and conditioning' and if I'm "too blind to see it I should go watch girl's volleyball?"

Look man, I don't know what point you're trying to make, but you need to take a minute to calm down and drop the Keyboard Warrior routine if you want to try to make any sort of actual sense. Believe it or not, you might not be the only one that's been involved with any sort of athletics.

JRM has had shoulder issues since before this year. Kirkland rolled his ankle. Sutton broke a bone when planting, same with Sapp's ACL. Multiple players have had concussions. Linemen get rolled up on and Kendrick had strep as well. Nothing really lines up with some sort of systemic issue.

Has S&C been flawless this year? No, it hasn't. But to act like this rash of injuries "lies solely with the S&C coach" is insane.
 
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#42
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Turf, a few cheap shots, The injury god, tooth fair, easter bunny, playing at UT, George W. Bush, Russian Hackers, Global Warming
 
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#43
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Why wasn't "2 very good, hard hitting, SEC teams" not a choice??? Or maybe, it took 2 very good, hard hitting SEC teams to uncover our weakness in S&C..... Or maybe, it was that D*** Sasquatch!!!!
 
#45
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CAVPUT said:
Maybe not, but I sure as hell blame the coach if Kirkland is unable to go vs USC. Simply stupid to rush him back for Bama given the open date and the potential for an additional two weeks to fully recover. No way one player was going to be the difference vs Bama. And I said so on this board on me than one occasion.
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At some point he had to see where he was at in recovery. Coaching had nothing to do with his ankle rolling awkwardly @ BOB. You can't blame coaching for Danny O, or Sapp making a really awkward landing on his knee or Sutton slipping on turf. Shoulder injuries yes but some things are freak occurences
 
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WallyBalls said:
The trend is 'strength and conditioning' and if I'm "too blind to see it I should go watch girl's volleyball?"

Look man, I don't know what point you're trying to make, but you need to take a minute to calm down and drop the Keyboard Warrior routine if you want to try to make any sort of actual sense. Believe it or not, you might not be the only one that's been involved with any sort of athletics.

JRM has had shoulder issues since before this year. Kirkland rolled his ankle. Sutton broke a bone when planting, same with Sapp's ACL. Multiple players have had concussions. Linemen get rolled up on and Kendrick had strep as well. Nothing really lines up with some sort of systemic issue.

Has S&C been flawless this year? No, it hasn't. But to act like this rash of injuries "lies solely with the S&C coach" is insane.
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Submit to his superior knowledge......he did, after all, play in the GCSC.....
 
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CoaxialOrange said:
At some point he had to see where he was at in recovery. Coaching had nothing to do with his ankle rolling awkwardly @ BOB. You can't blame coaching for Danny O, or Sapp making a really awkward landing on his knee or Sutton slipping on turf. Shoulder injuries yes but some things are freak occurences
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So your blaming freak, has to be a conspiracy here!
 
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