Who Is The Next AD?

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#101
Anybody who says CPF is not all VOL is a blind idiot! He have his whole adult life to the university as a player, coach and a HOF coach at that. With that being said Holloway should have the opportunity to say no before anyone else is offered the job.
 
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VFL-82-JP said:
Shame on you, HopTown. If you've never seen evidence that Phil Fulmer deeply cares for Tennessee, you've been living deaf, dumb and blind for the past 50 years.

Having said that, Phil may not be a very good choice for AD ... don't think he has the requisite business leadership experience. The AD job is all about business management. Coaching and business management both require leadership skills, but are otherwise very different professions.

I like the Dave Blackburn suggestion a lot more. If Hart were to go anywhere. Not seeing any signs of that yet.
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BS! If Phil loved UT so much he would have retired 10 years ago, but you're right about one thing,
Fulmer does not have the skillset for AD. unless total incompetence is the #1 criteria.
 
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HoptownVol said:
BS! If Phil loved UT so much he would have retired 10 years ago, but you're right about one thing,
Fulmer does not have the skillset for AD. unless total incompetence is the #1 criteria.
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Wtf is wrong with you and your hatred for inarguably the second greatest and most successful head football coach in Tennessee history? You know, the one in the college football hall of fame?
 
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HoptownVol said:
Where is there any evidence that Fulmer cares about anything but Phil Fulmer?
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Where is there evidence that all he cares about is himself? The guy spent practically his entire adult life up to 2008 either playing or coaching for UT. 30+ years. You wanna hate him, then hate him. But stop with all the childish BS about what an awful coach he was and how selfish he was/is. The guy gave virtually his entire professional life to the Tennessee football program and took it to heights not seen since the Neyland era.
 
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KBVol said:
Wtf is wrong with you and your hatred for inarguably the second greatest and most successful head football coach in Tennessee history? You know, the one in the college football hall of fame?
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Because he abandoned the program, because he undermined his coaches, hired incompetents,
stopped recruiting, stopped leading, became an excuse machine, and brought the football program to
total irrelevance.

"The job of the offense is to get a few first downs, then punt." Coach Phillip Fulmer. :eek:lol:
 
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Hart should be dismissed by the UT President nd find a new AD. I'd like to see Fulmer! Don't know who ese is out there that would take the job Would any previous basketball or football player do it? The staff might want to give it some thought. Just an opinion! Would Grunfeld be an option?
 
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TennFan said:
Hart should be dismissed by the UT President nd find a new AD. I'd like to see Fulmer! Don't know who ese is out there that would take the job Would any previous basketball or football player do it? The staff might want to give it some thought. Just an opinion! Would Grunfeld be an option?
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Anybody that wants Fulmer for an AD has serious issues. I wouldnt object to Ernie, doubt he wants to come back
to Knoxville anymore than Bernard does.
 
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HoptownVol said:
Because he abandoned the program, because he undermined his coaches, hired incompetents,
stopped recruiting, stopped leading, became an excuse machine, and brought the football program to
total irrelevance.

"The job of the offense is to get a few first downs, then punt." Coach Phillip Fulmer. :eek:lol:
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What?? Lol.

1. How exactly did he abandon his program? He was fired.

2. Which coaches did he undermine? He was fiercely loyal to his coaches...many would say to a fault.

3. He made 1 major awful hire... Dave Clawson.

4. Stopped recruiting? No. You wanna say he didn't recruit as well? Fine, won't disagree there.

5. Stopped leading? Define that for me.

6. Brought program to total irrelevance? That's complete BS. The year before he was fired he won 10 games and was in the SEC Championship game. We were down, no doubt about it and Philip certainly shouldered responsibility for it. But we didn't hit irrelevance until the Dooley years.

You've let your childish emotions overrule your ability to reason because you evidently don't like Phil. I get it to some extent, I have a borderline irrational belief that Tennessee will literally never beat Florida again....but at least my belief is rooted in some type of reality and evidence. Your irrational criticism and assessment of Fulmer's career at Tennessee because you don't like him makes no sense.
 
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ainge10heisman said:
He's Bama Dave because he graduated from Alabama. He played basketball at Alabama, he even was a grad assistant coach on the basketball team at Alabama in 1972. Bama Dave is Tide through and through. You have been schooled.
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That is very true. But will say I doubt he has been sent to ruin UT by the powers to be at Ala. A mans family, repution and ability to take care of his family probably take priority over purposely trying to ruin a rival school and also ruining his career. I didn't understand the hire because of how poorly he ran FSU and the issues he had there. But would be willing to bet he and his alma mater have conspired to destroy UT. Doubt Hart even has that much say so and power for it to get to that point. Would bet the guys above him on the food chain get final decision and can veto any decision Hart makes. No I don't like or trust Hart but there is no way there is a huge conspiracy by him and Ala to ruin UT.
 
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KBVol said:
What?? Lol.

1. How exactly did he abandon his program? He was fired.

2. Which coaches did he undermine? He was fiercely loyal to his coaches...many would say to a fault.

3. He made 1 major awful hire... Dave Clawson.

4. Stopped recruiting? No. You wanna say he didn't recruit as well? Fine, won't disagree there.

5. Stopped leading? Define that for me.

6. Brought program to total irrelevance? That's complete BS. The year before he was fired he won 10 games and was in the SEC Championship game. We were down, no doubt about it and Philip certainly shouldered responsibility for it. But we didn't hit irrelevance until the Dooley years.

You've let your childish emotions overrule your ability to reason because you evidently don't like Phil. I get it to some extent, I have a borderline irrational belief that Tennessee will literally never beat Florida again....but at least my belief is rooted in some type of reality and evidence. Your irrational criticism and assessment of Fulmer's career at Tennessee because you don't like him makes no sense.
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I do agree but also believe that shows the importance that having Cut run his offense had on Fulmer success. We had a bad yr before the yr Cut came back, made the SEC championship the yr he came back then fell off the following yr when Cut left for Duke. Sanders had a couple good yrs calling plays but when you have Casey at QB, Written at TE, Stallworth, Washington, Eric Parker, Cedric Wilson along with others then the stable of QB's we kept Sanders just had to not screw it up. Just discipline alone with Cut/with Sanders. You could watch FSU the last few yrs and the way Winston talked and acted towards Sanders. I guarantee if Cut was his OC that stuff wouldn't have been going on on the sidelines. Fulmer was just a better Coach when he had his security blanket on staff with him. Kinda like Jordan needing Pippen, he won when he had Scotty and didn't win when he didn't. Willing to bet unless he retired that if Cut had stayed at UT instead of going to Duke that Fulmer would still be our HC..jmo
 
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jasonvol18 said:
I do agree but also believe that shows the importance that having Cut run his offense had on Fulmer success. We had a bad yr before the yr Cut came back, made the SEC championship the yr he came back then fell off the following yr when Cut left for Duke. Sanders had a couple good yrs calling plays but when you have Casey at QB, Written at TE, Stallworth, Washington, Eric Parker, Cedric Wilson along with others then the stable of QB's we kept Sanders just had to not screw it up. Just discipline alone with Cut/with Sanders. You could watch FSU the last few yrs and the way Winston talked and acted towards Sanders. I guarantee if Cut was his OC that stuff wouldn't have been going on on the sidelines. Fulmer was just a better Coach when he had his security blanket on staff with him. Kinda like Jordan needing Pippen, he won when he had Scotty and didn't win when he didn't. Willing to bet unless he retired that if Cut had stayed at UT instead of going to Duke that Fulmer would still be our HC..jmo
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Solid, don't disagree at all. Cut was integral to Phil's success as our OC. Just think that on balance, the second greatest coach in our school's history, the one responsible for our last NC, deserves more than to be called trash and disloyal to the program like Hoptown did. Just don't understand how you look at his career and get there.
 
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On a shoe string budget, the Chattanooga Mocs have a better men's basketball coach, a better women's basketball coach, and quite possibly a better football coach than the Vols. The lack of leadership in Knoxville is an embarrassment.
 
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peytonmanningwoo said:
On a shoe string budget, the Chattanooga Mocs have a better men's basketball coach, a better women's basketball coach, and quite possibly a better football coach than the Vols. The lack of leadership in Knoxville is an embarrassment.
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What? Huh?......

1. Rick Barnes has 600+ wins, has 20+ tourney appearances, 6-7 Sweet 16s, a final four and is a future HOFer. I know Wade is an up and comer, but who the hell thinks he's a better coach than a guy who actually has a ton of skins on the wall?

2. Warlick just won 30 games, another SEC title and a spot in the Elite 8. Foster's a great coach and has accumulated a ton of wins in nearly 40 years. He did a great job this year at UTC. But on the whole that wasn't quite the schedule he squeezed 29 wins out of that Holly got 30 from. This is undoubtedly your strongest case, but I'm still not sure.

3. Jones just beat the brakes off the Mocs and their headcoach last year (as he should have), just pulled a 2nd straight top 5 class and is a pick by many to represent the SECe in the SECCG. Sorry, not a chance.

Do you have any evidence to back up thoughts on how UTC has better coaches?
Feel free to articulate your opinion.
 
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