Which players will be revived?

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WhatinVolNATION?

WhatinVolNATION?

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Regardless of which side of the fence you are on with Bruce Pearl, in any sport there are always players that just don't jive with their coach. Maybe they truly have little talent, but oftentimes the coach doesn't give them a fair shot or the coach's motivation style doesn't suit that particular player. This happened to several players on the football team (i.e. Tauren Poole) with the transition to Dooley--they were revived!

So, the question is this:

Which players do you think the basketball coaching change will benefit the most from a "revive my game" standpoint?

My thoughts:

-I really think that with the right motivation, Woolridge could be something decent--maybe a good 6th man.
-Clearly Bruce couldn't get Cam Tatum out of the gutter, but maybe someone else can.
-If McBee can focus on his 3-point shooting and defense in the off-season, he can be a good contributor.
-Kenny Hall needs someone to motivate him off the court (so I hear).

I am excited about the prospect of this. What do you guys think?
 
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Maybe the next guy can get more effort out of some of them. Maybe they'll play smarter also. Who knows but it was kind of hard to watch at times this year.
 
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Assumes HArris/Hopson are gone. If Woolridge would muscle up 10 lbs he has a future as a #4. He has got to want to do that and let his rap career wait. He would be benched every time he shot a 3 whether he made it or not. If Tatum is switched back to the #2, or, a real offense is designed for him to go to the hoop - he will shine. He was a #3 all year running side to side - which is not his game. McBee's shooting form/motion returned in the last couple of games as he only missed by being too long or short instead of side to side. He needs to work on PG type ball handling in case they need him at the #1 to spell Golden. Hall has potential, especially on offense. He can do some things with his back to the basket that will only get better. If you had to sit and watch Fields and Williams all year your attitude would suffer as well. The biggest upside is Golden and McRae. Under coached and under utilized all year in a crappy offense. With a year working in the right system Maymon can provide quality minutes at the #4 as well. My offense would have the #4 as a strong rebounder/defensive stopper that got the transition going and clean up baskets around the rim. There would be no point forwards - sorry Harris. Use a good ball handling #4 only for beating the press.
 
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WhatinVolNATION? said:
Regardless of which side of the fence you are on with Bruce Pearl, in any sport there are always players that just don't jive with their coach. Maybe they truly have little talent, but oftentimes the coach doesn't give them a fair shot or the coach's motivation style doesn't suit that particular player. This happened to several players on the football team (i.e. Tauren Poole) with the transition to Dooley--they were revived!

So, the question is this:

Which players do you think the basketball coaching change will benefit the most from a "revive my game" standpoint?

My thoughts:

-I really think that with the right motivation, Woolridge could be something decent--maybe a good 6th man.
-Clearly Bruce couldn't get Cam Tatum out of the gutter, but maybe someone else can.
-If McBee can focus on his 3-point shooting and defense in the off-season, he can be a good contributor.
-Kenny Hall needs someone to motivate him off the court (so I hear).

I am excited about the prospect of this. What do you guys think?
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Who keeps saying this stuff, I thought it was pretty clear by now that he works hard in practice, stays after practcice and has generally always been a hard worker.
He is a big man that actually shoots free-throws suprisingly well, this is usually a sign of hard work.

Swiper did not get minutes because he plays like a total moron jacking up a three pointer the moment he has any space....and missing. The same problem was occuring with Cam around mid-season and the coaching staff obviously told him to drive more and shoot less, you could see him start passing up shots here late in the season and missing layups instead.

Kenny has the most upside by far if we can just get him to stop commiting so many idiotic fouls.
 
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omghulkhands said:
Who keeps saying this stuff, I thought it was pretty clear by now that he works hard in practice, stays after practcice and has generally always been a hard worker.
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This came from an actual Pearl presser...I can't remember when, but he said something to the effect of, "Kenny hasn't played as much because he isn't making the best off-court decisions."
 
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Only player i consider dead that could possible be revived is Swiper. He has to get the 3 mentality beat out of him and learn some post moves. That or be moved to the 3 in a different offensive scheme but then he would have to learn how to be a slasher. Hall isnt dead he was just not seeing alot of minutes. We know what Kenny can do he just needs to improve in a couple of areas. I fully expect him to be good. jordan might also make that reviving list if he stays here (his comments dont sound very sure).
 
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I may get bashed for this, but I think Mcbee. He showed improvement and more confidence at the end of the season on both sides of the ball. A new coach coming in will immediately recognize his hard work in practice and give him a better chance to earn a starting spot accordingly. Of course, the depleted roster can only help as well.
 
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WhatinVolNATION? said:
This came from an actual Pearl presser...I can't remember when, but he said something to the effect of, "Kenny hasn't played as much because he isn't making the best off-court decisions."
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I misunderstood for some reason and related it to practice effort. :s my bad.


To the above poster I think McBee has plenty of potential to be decent
 
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Don't understand the love fest over Shaka Smart but w/e

I could see this team shocking a lot of people next year. All of the players you mentioned have a ton of potentional. I think Cam Tatum will come out his sr season and play well. Besides him, it's hard to say. Mcrae, Goins, or Swiper could all be great players. It's not like the next coach is getting trash...all of these players have potential.
 
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Shaun1985 said:
Don't understand the love fest over Shaka Smart but w/e

I could see this team shocking a lot of people next year. All of the players you mentioned have a ton of potentional. I think Cam Tatum will come out his sr season and play well. Besides him, it's hard to say. Mcrae, Goins, or Swiper could all be great players. It's not like the next coach is getting trash...all of these players have potential.
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i assume you mean golden rather than goins
 
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WhatinVolNATION? said:
-Woolridge
-Cam Tatum
-McBee
-Kenny Hall
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I agree with the premise. Sometimes a different take can really change a player.

I think Cam Tatum is limited by his knees. I don't think he'll ever be more than he was his sophomore season. He'll probably come out of his shooting slump next year, though.

I think McBee will regress. Pearl is good at getting a lot out of under-talented guys that will hustle. McBee may disappear entirely...in fact, depending on the coach and the roster, McBee may never really get a chance to prove himself one way or the other.

The other two are very possible. They're good athletes, and Kenny in particular has some skills. Woolridge just needs to settle down and make better decisions. A different coach might help him a ton.

Golden and McRae are two others to watch, but they would have improved anyway--they're young and they have some ability.

Maymon could go either direction. He has some strength and coordination, but I'm not sure if his personality would fit everyone's ideals.
 
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StepCross said:
I think McBee will regress. Pearl is good at getting a lot out of under-talented guys that will hustle. McBee may disappear entirely...in fact, depending on the coach and the roster, McBee may never really get a chance to prove himself one way or the other.
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How could he disappear with the roster we are going to have next year?
 
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I fully expect Tyler Summitt to have a break out season next year, esp with his mom coaching the team.
 
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WhatinVolNATION? said:
Regardless of which side of the fence you are on with Bruce Pearl, in any sport there are always players that just don't jive with their coach. Maybe they truly have little talent, but oftentimes the coach doesn't give them a fair shot or the coach's motivation style doesn't suit that particular player. This happened to several players on the football team (i.e. Tauren Poole) with the transition to Dooley--they were revived!

So, the question is this:

Which players do you think the basketball coaching change will benefit the most from a "revive my game" standpoint?

My thoughts:

-I really think that with the right motivation, Woolridge could be something decent--maybe a good 6th man.
-Clearly Bruce couldn't get Cam Tatum out of the gutter, but maybe someone else can.
-If McBee can focus on his 3-point shooting and defense in the off-season, he can be a good contributor.
-Kenny Hall needs someone to motivate him off the court (so I hear).

I am excited about the prospect of this. What do you guys think?
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Woolridge shouldn't be on an athletic scholarship period. He has been allowed to take up a scholarship for 3 years to try and become a rapper while contributing absolutely nothing to the sport he has gotten a free ride from. An absolute disgrace. Tatum supposedly is a terrific athlete who is all world in the summer league UT players participate in, then looks lazy and lost the majority of time during the actual season. I think he's another head case like Hopson. McBee plays hard but honestly he is not a Div 1 prospect. Of the three, McBee has the greatest chance of improvement simply because he wants to be at UT and has the desire to succeed. The other two seem more infatuated with plating for BP than they do succeeding individually.
 
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jspvol76 said:
How could he disappear with the roster we are going to have next year?
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I don't know exactly what the roster will look like next year. Skylar could be behind Scotty, Tatum, McRae, and Ware at the wing.

Or, if Scotty goes pro, the commits bail, and McRae transfers, then Skylar will be basically a starter.

A lot still up in the air right now.
 
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ITSGR82BATNVOL said:
Woolridge shouldn't be on an athletic scholarship period. He has been allowed to take up a scholarship for 3 years to try and become a rapper while contributing absolutely nothing to the sport he has gotten a free ride from. An absolute disgrace. Tatum supposedly is a terrific athlete who is all world in the summer league UT players participate in, then looks lazy and lost the majority of time during the actual season. I think he's another head case like Hopson. McBee plays hard but honestly he is not a Div 1 prospect. Of the three, McBee has the greatest chance of improvement simply because he wants to be at UT and has the desire to succeed. The other two seem mpre infatuated with plating for BP than they did succeeding individually.
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Much of this is false.

Tatum is not lazy, he's crippled. His knees aren't what they were two years ago, and he doesn't have the quickness and explosiveness he used to have.

Woolridge is an incredible athlete, maybe the best on the team. He just makes terrible decisions with the basketball. A great coach could (potentially) get a lot out of Woolridge, IMO. He's also a good kid that works very hard.

McBee has a low ceiling, we agree on that.
 
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StepCross said:
Much of this is false.

Tatum is not lazy, he's crippled. His knees aren't what they were two years ago, and he doesn't have the quickness and explosiveness he used to have.

Woolridge is an incredible athlete, maybe the best on the team. He just makes terrible decisions with the basketball. A great coach could (potentially) get a lot out of Woolridge, IMO. He's also a good kid that works very hard.

McBee has a low ceiling, we agree on that.
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If Tatum is crippled as you say, can he be counted upon to be a real contributor to help this team be successful? NO

Woolridge does appear to be a good kid by all accounts and you're obviously saying he has great athletic potential based on his father's success in the NBA. But the fact is Woolridge with his good kid attitude + his potential + 1.00 will get you a candy bar at Seven Eleven. He has contributed ZERO to this BB program in 3 years and if you know anything about BB you know this is true. End of story.
 
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ITSGR82BATNVOL said:
He has contributed ZERO to this BB program in 3 years and if you know anything about BB you know this is true. End of story.
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No, that's NOT the end of the story.

The question was who could a different coach get more out of. Clearly Renaldo hasn't given us much, but he's a good athlete. Not because his dad was, but because my eyeballs tell me he's very, very quick for his size.

Nothing is guaranteed, but Renaldo is a guy that Pearl didn't get much out of, that maybe someone else could.

"End of story." Geez. Have some imagination, dude.
 
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