Which new hire will have the most wins?

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I debated putting this on the "around the NCAA" forum but since I am using the following article to single out Pruitt I think it works best here: Which new hire in a major conference will win the most games in 2018?

So USA today has Pruitt almost dead last at #9 with this synopsis:

9. Jeremy Pruitt, Tennessee
The latest to try his hand at resurrecting Tennessee, Pruitt takes over a program fresh off its worst SEC season in history — zero wins and eight losses as Butch Jones’ final parting gift. Anyone who says Pruitt is an upgrade is playing a guessing game, though the signs are there: he worked under Nick Saban, has a solid reputation and has even in a short span laid out the framework for remaking UT into its former self. It’s enough to make you look past the fact that Pruitt’s lack of asparagus awareness.
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Hard to disagree with, it really is anyone's guess at this point. Lets hope for "beats expectations.""

Oh, as for the rest of the list, I am not sure where the USAToday love for Kevin Sumlin is coming from. I felt he was mediocre at best.
 
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Grand Vol said:
Trying to figure out how Herm Edwards is higher on the list...
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It's just another offseason click-bait article by a writer that is making assumptions. You can't really blame him in regard to Pruitt, because UT was very, very bad last season, on both sides of the ball, so the obvious assumption is Pruitt is inheriting little to no talent and UT has a tough schedule. I mean we were embarrassed by Mizzou and Vandy! We have more returning talent than he likely assumes, but we still have serious talent deficiencies at key positions, which is not a recipe for success next season. He also isn't giving Frost much chance for success next season either, despite him being the newest Golden Boy, because Nebraska was also pretty bad last season. Articles like this don't tell us anything we shouldn't already know if we are being honest.
 
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Taggart probably steps into the best talent pool but I don't think he is that great a coach.

UCF is still fairly talented and manageable schedule for Heupul.

Hogs probably have it the worst. Bad Talent and Bad Schedule but Chad will be a good coach.

I think if everything goes our way we have a ceiling of 11 wins but 7-9 wins are more realistic (I'm counting bowl game too).
 
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Hawkeye4588 said:
I debated putting this on the "around the NCAA" forum but since I am using the following article to single out Pruitt I think it works best here: Which new hire in a major conference will win the most games in 2018?

So USA today has Pruitt almost dead last at #9 with this synopsis:



Hard to disagree with, it really is anyone's guess at this point. Lets hope for "beats expectations.""

Oh, as for the rest of the list, I am not sure where the USAToday love for Kevin Sumlin is coming from. I felt he was mediocre at best.
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Disagree about Sumlin. In fact, I think he has the chance to be one of the best hires from this past season. Khalil Tate is special and remember what Sumlin did with Manziel. Weak conference relatively speaking to boot.
 
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Crazy Ivan said:
It's just another offseason click-bait article by a writer that is making assumptions. You can't really blame him in regard to Pruitt, because UT was very, very bad last season, on both sides of the ball, so the obvious assumption is Pruitt is inheriting little to no talent and UT has a tough schedule. I mean we were embarrassed by Mizzou and Vandy! We have more returning talent than he likely assumes, but we still have serious talent deficiencies at key positions, which is not a recipe for success next season. He also isn't giving Frost much chance for success next season either, despite him being the newest Golden Boy, because Nebraska was also pretty bad last season. Articles like this don't tell us anything we shouldn't already know if we are being honest.
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I was thinking more along the lines of "why is Herm Edwards ranked higher instead of being tied with Pruitt?" instead of a whine about Pruitt's ranking. I agree there is a large hill to climb. But let's face it, Edwards is going into a school that historically isn't very good and really doesn't have a good recruiting base.

And right now, he has the #79 ranked recruiting class according to 247.

Breaking in a new DC and OC.

So on and so forth.

I get that the Vols are coming off a really bad season. However, how much was due to lack of coaching, no teamwork and infighting? And can Pruitt turn that around faster than Edwards at a school like ASU?
 
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HuntlandVolinColo said:
Taggart probably steps into the best talent pool but I don't think he is that great a coach.

UCF is still fairly talented and manageable schedule for Heupul.

Hogs probably have it the worst. Bad Talent and Bad Schedule but Chad will be a good coach.

I think if everything goes our way we have a ceiling of 11 wins but 7-9 wins are more realistic (I'm counting bowl game too).
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Ceiling is 10. No way we beat Bama or Georgia next year.
 
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No proven quarterback, starting running back gone, weak online, and holes on defense. Can't argue with the man but this time next year Pruitt should be getting recognition to be in the top three of this list for wins by a second year coach. Or at least Im really hoping so.
 
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WoW outside of Frost and maybe Jimbo(Who was paid waaay to much)that list isn't to impressive.After the debacle hiring process,the fact we ended up with Pruitt and a pretty awesome staff shouldn't be taken for granted.It could have been alot worse.
 
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QB issues? Check
Loss of all conference RB? Check
Poor WR play? Check.
Almost complete staff overhaul? Check.
New offensive and defensive scheme? Check.
Putrid OL? Check.
Undisciplined, soft players? Check.
Slow LBs? Check.
Weak DL? Check.
Lack of pass rushers? Check.
No Trevor Daniel or Evan Berry? Check.

Its really not that difficult once you take all these things into account. I believe Pruitt will get us winning at a high rate. Its going to take a few years imo.
 
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Meaningless article. No coach is rated on year 1 anyway. Way too many variables in play for a meaningful comparison or ranking.

The only thing for certain on this list is, Herm Edwards should be dead last.

Bottom line, CJP inherits a tough schedule, and a roster, when rated by SEC standards, lacks talent and depth. Throw in the scheme changes on O and D, and he’s got a lot of work to do. HE NEEDS TIME.

Before anyone starts raving about our talent and throws out 6-8 players’ names, I’m talking about overall talent and overall depth. The kind of talent/depth Alabama has, and Georgia is close to having.

Also consider, by far our best class on campus, our rising senior class, rated #4 nationally in 2015, but 13 of those 29 players are gone. Players ranked 1, 3, 4, 9, 12, 15, 19, 21, 22, 23, 24, 26, 27. Recalculating/Adjusting for the loss of these recruits, the class ranks #18 for 2015.

Note: I included JJ (9) as “gone.” It’s probably a long shot he stays with the team. Reportedly, CJP runs a tight ship.

Again, CJP needs time to rebuild.
 
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BigOrangeTrain said:
QB issues? Check
Loss of all conference RB? Check
Poor WR play? Check.
Almost complete staff overhaul? Check.
New offensive and defensive scheme? Check.
Putrid OL? Check.
Undisciplined, soft players? Check.
Slow LBs? Check.
Weak DL? Check.
Lack of pass rushers? Check.
No Trevor Daniel or Evan Berry? Check.

Its really not that difficult once you take all these things into account. I believe Pruitt will get us winning at a high rate. Its going to take a few years imo.
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Where have I heard that before?...Hmmm...Just substitute Pruitt with Dooley, Jones and oh yes there it is...Nevermind
 
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Totally agree that the latest rebuild will take time. I'm interested to know about the mindset of a season ticket holder looking forward to the possibly somewhat challenging season ahead. Personally I had minimal tolerance for nonsense at the start of Jones' tenure, and unfortunately I did not perceive that he ran a tight enough ship, win, lose or draw. For that reason, I was out, never to return. What percentage of ticket holders exhibit better resilience than I? Maybe a lot, maybe not.
 
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