Which narrative will win?

#5
#5
Volfan2012 said:
The narrative that always wins if she gets a new team and wins big the win would be her and Danny. If they lose again like this season it will be the players that left and the coaches that left. The narrative in the end is always controlled by winning or losing and will always be the deciding factor.
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You spinned that to imply that the issue was not CKC.

What if a large portion of those players that left have a big impact on their new school? What if the coach that left has a good season at his new school? You still blaming them or was it being at Tennessee that was holding them back?

At this point the coach is not getting fired - too late for that. Yes, it will play out next year but I would bet the players and coaches that left will have better results at a new place.
 
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Volfan2012 said:
The narrative that always wins if she gets a new team and wins big the win would be her and Danny. If they lose again like this season it will be the players that left and the coaches that left. The narrative in the end is always controlled by winning or losing and will always be the deciding factor.
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Exactly. There will be no immediate closure. It will be interesting to see who CKC can sign after a historic mass defection. I saw that a player from Liberty is visiting campus. I think that will be the level of player CKC will be going after and will have the best chance to sign.
 
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Butch s said:
I’d like to know when DW made this statement. If it’s been within the last month, he needs to go also
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I think this is a ridiculous statement. No one knows better then he does what is going on in the program. Certainly better than we do.

Not to mention overseeing one of the most successful eras of UT athletics to date.
 
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A team starts the season 14-2, ends the season 2-12. Plays UConn even in the first half, gets blown out in the 2nd half. Plays Texas close, loses to Texas A&M. Either this is true, or something similar has happened. This season was a mutiny. There's no way it was not.
 
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macrovol said:
A team starts the season 14-2, ends the season 2-12. Plays UConn even in the first half, gets blown out in the 2nd half. Plays Texas close, loses to Texas A&M. Either this is true, or something similar has happened. This season was a mutiny. There's no way it was not.
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I think the way our season was structured matters more than people are acknowledging.

We opened against a lighter portion of the schedule, and it was always known that the tougher stretch with more talented teams, deeper into conference play was coming on the back end.

And to be fair, unlike a lot of people on the board, I actually do think we had players capable of competing. There were moments where, athlete for athlete, we could hold our own. You saw flashes of that and stretches where talent alone made us competitive, regardless of system or opponent.

But there’s a ceiling to that.

When you start facing teams that are just as talented (or more talented) and well-coached, talent by itself isn’t enough. That’s where coaching, system, and cohesion start to separate teams.

And that’s where we struggled and ultimately cracked under the pressure. All of the little things that weren't quite right were strained to breaking under the intensity of that and you saw it not only show up, but compound spectacularly. This can happen, even to well coached teams within well oiled systems. And there's usually things you can do to try to interrupt or correct the buckling or at least slow the pressure down. But, you have to have the relationships, the adjustments in the moment, the trust and confidence of the squad, the instincts to know what to do when the floor is falling out from under you. You'll still lose some, but not all and at least you fight til the end.

Against better teams, especially ones with structure and identity, we didn’t have enough consistency to hold up over 40 minutes and you saw things break down, over and over again, under that type of pressure.
 
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SummittSoul said:
I think the way our season was structured matters more than people are acknowledging.

We opened against a lighter portion of the schedule, and it was always known that the tougher stretch with more talented teams, deeper into conference play was coming on the back end.

And to be fair, unlike a lot of people on the board, I actually do think we had players capable of competing. There were moments where, athlete for athlete, we could hold our own. You saw flashes of that and stretches where talent alone made us competitive, regardless of system or opponent.

But there’s a ceiling to that.

When you start facing teams that are just as talented (or more talented) and well-coached, talent by itself isn’t enough. That’s where coaching, system, and cohesion start to separate teams.

And that’s where we struggled and ultimately cracked under the pressure. All of the little things that weren't quite right were strained to breaking under the intensity of that and you saw it not only show up, but compound spectacularly. This can happen, even to well coached teams within well oiled systems. And there's usually things you can do to try to interrupt or correct the buckling or at least slow the pressure down. But, you have to have the relationships, the adjustments in the moment, the trust and confidence of the squad, the instincts to know what to do when the floor is falling out from under you. You'll still lose some, but not all and at least you fight til the end.

Against better teams, especially ones with structure and identity, we didn’t have enough consistency to hold up over 40 minutes and you saw things break down, over and over again, under that type of pressure.
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She was never the right coach from the get-go. She should never have been given the keys to this program. It's easy to win against Upstate Carolina and Lipscombe, but not South Carolina, Texas, etc. These girls were led to believe it would be easy, when in fact it is hard. They don't coach the fundamentals like defence and rebounding. It's all flashy shooting 3s, but no grinding.
 
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MrBiggles said:
She was never the right coach from the get-go. She should never have been given the keys to this program. It's easy to win against Upstate Carolina and Lipscombe, but not South Carolina, Texas, etc. These girls were led to believe it would be easy, when in fact it is hard. They don't coach the fundamentals like defence and rebounding. It's all flashy shooting 3s, but no grinding.
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Yeah the lack of fundamentals became glaring in the worst of the moments. I wasn't sure if it was genuinely because they weren't teaching it but that seems like a miss. Defense, rebounding, etc. You still have to have a grip on those things, no matter what your system is.
 
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SummittSoul said:
Yeah the lack of fundamentals became glaring in the worst of the moments. I wasn't sure if it was genuinely because they weren't teaching it but that seems like a miss. Defense, rebounding, etc. You still have to have a grip on those things, no matter what your system is.
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This past season brings to mind the Chaos Theory, which is, basically, “What begins in chaos, ends in chaos.”

I believe the inherent chaos Caldwell’s system creates only serves to magnify problems that are caused by lack of focus, and those problems are even further magnified if there’s a lack of leadership among the players, and then the REAL kick in the butt comes when those players lack trust in their staff.

Having a game plan that depends on constant chaos is kinda asking for a lack of focus, IMO.

Hopefully we’ll have a team of players who will be perfect for that type of game. Gonna be interesting to see what Caldwell shows the world next season, to be sure! I want her to be able to stand in front of a crowd after the team’s final game next season and get to say, “See? I told you fools I knew what I was doing!” *sigh*
 
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macrovol said:
A team starts the season 14-2, ends the season 2-12. Plays UConn even in the first half, gets blown out in the 2nd half. Plays Texas close, loses to Texas A&M. Either this is true, or something similar has happened. This season was a mutiny. There's no way it was not.
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100% agree. Her assistants turned on her and it's obvious.
 
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It’s all about coaching and will always be. Yes, you have to have players but coaching is the key. Look at Michigan, they won 8 games two years ago and they just cut down the nets last night. Coaching always wins out. CKC was not the coach we needed two years ago and she’s not the coach we need today. This situation will not correct itself until our athletic director admits he made a mistake.
 
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