Where would you rank the Pearlster?

#77
#77
Bruce Pearl has never won a major conference title, He did win a Div-2 Championship, but that would be equal to winning the SEC conference title and tournament. He did inherit an up and coming Tennessee program, and he was involved in the recruiting scandal as an assistant at Iowa. I don't think he is worthy just yet of putting him in the Top 25 coaches in college basketball.
 
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groger said:
Bruce Pearl has never won a major conference title, He did win a Div-2 Championship, but that would be equal to winning the SEC conference title and tournament. He did inherit an up and coming Tennessee program, and he was involved in the recruiting scandal as an assistant at Iowa. I don't think he is worthy just yet of putting him in the Top 25 coaches in college basketball.
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Based on the portion of your post I've put in bold, if I were you, I'd never ever ever post regarding UT basketball again.

If you've ever heard Bruce talk about the "scandal", he is very honest about it. Was it the best decision in the world? No. But, he was trying to do his part to cleanse college basketball of something he felt compromised the game.
 
#80
#80
and what has John Calipari done?... nothing but win in one of the weakest conferences... that sure is hard when you have top 100 recruits and you are playing against the bottom dwellers of college basketball. You ever wonder why Memphis does so well in the tournament? Maybe because they are a lot more rested from playing Central Florida like foes and having their starters rest half the game.
 
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#81
orange+white=heaven said:
Top Ten?...

Coach K
Roy Williams
Bob Knight
Bill Self
Rick Barnes
Jim Boeheim
Bob Huggins
Thad Matta
John Calipari
Rick Pitino...

I'm not ready to place the man above any of these yet. He's a fine coach, and again I'm glad he's our coach. But you must win titles in this game. I believe he will, but he hasn't yet.

Fine's question asked for a big picture view. So lets be honest.
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Pearl is better than both Rick Barnes and Thad Matta.
 
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#83
Ohiovol09 said:
and what has John Calipari done?... nothing but win in one of the weakest conferences... that sure is hard when you have top 100 recruits and you are playing against the bottom dwellers of college basketball. You ever wonder why Memphis does so well in the tournament? Maybe because they are a lot more rested from playing Central Florida like foes and having their starters rest half the game.
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He also took UMass to the F4 if I remember right. They haven't even come close since, that should say something.
 
#85
#85
kidbourbon said:
Barnes is a used car salesman. He's not good with X's and O's, and isn't a good game coach.

And how is Matta better? Because he went to a final four with Oden and Conley? I would certainly hope he could do that.
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Matta also took Butler to the Sweet 16 and Xavier to the Elite Eight. That resume dwarfs anything Bruce has accomplished.
 
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#87
Ohiovol09 said:
and what has John Calipari done?... nothing but win in one of the weakest conferences... that sure is hard when you have top 100 recruits and you are playing against the bottom dwellers of college basketball. You ever wonder why Memphis does so well in the tournament? Maybe because they are a lot more rested from playing Central Florida like foes and having their starters rest half the game.
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You have no clue about Memphis Basketball. It's called Memphis is very deep, they can rest there starters if they want. I guess by beating UCONN, USC, CINCY, G'TOWN, GONZAGA and AZ. Cal hasn't done nothing for the Memphis program.
 
#88
#88
hatvol96 said:
Tennessee when Bruce Pearl took over was in much better shape than UMASS when Cal took over, UCONN when Calhoun took over, UC when Huggins took over, and UTEP and A&M were when Gillispie took over. It's not like what Pearl has done is unprecedented.
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It is for us....
 
#89
#89
hatvol96 said:
Right. How well have Providence and Clemson done since his departure?
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Hat makes a good point. Clemson was 74-48 under Barnes, with three NCAA bids (including a sweet-16 appearance) and one NIT bid in four years.

Since then, Clemson has been 150-139 (with many of those wins coming against ridiculously-easy non-conference schedules) with four NIT bids and zero NCAA bids. 40 of those 150 wins (and 2 of the NIT bids) were in the two years immediately after Barnes left when his recruits were still around.

Combine that with Barnes' work at Providence and Texas = pretty darn good coach.
 
#91
#91
hatvol96 said:
If the debate were where Bruce ranks among UT basketball coaches, that would be relevant.
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I agree, and I'm not debating the point. However, before Pearl got here, how many times has someone posted this thread about any previous UT BB coach?

I think for our situation, he was and is a top 10 coach. Debate all you want about championships, but from what he has done for the program overall, absolutely. Would I take Pittino or Coach K over him, yes I would. But I can't think of many in the afore mentioned group that would have excited the Vol Nation, or as quickly, as Coach Pearl has.
 
#92
#92
I'm pretty sure the presence on campus of Kevin Durant or Michael Beasley and Bill Walker would have excited Tennessee fans.
 
#94
#94
General Jack said:
Pearl is the man. Period.

He took a bunch of cast-offs and low talent kids to an SEC East Championship in his first year. He went 3-1 against the national champions. He went undefeated at home last year. He has a winning record against ranked teams and has taken Tennessee basketball in uncharted territory (W-L record and rank).

He has created a respect and enthusiasm for Tennessee that I didn't think possible. We are relevant and very good.

He already has done plenty. The championships are coming. I wouldn't trade him for the world.
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Not sure how he ranks with the rest of the NCAA. In Tennessee, he is getting pretty close to Pat and Ray.
 
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#95
Ohiovol09 said:
and what has John Calipari done?... nothing but win in one of the weakest conferences... that sure is hard when you have top 100 recruits and you are playing against the bottom dwellers of college basketball. You ever wonder why Memphis does so well in the tournament? Maybe because they are a lot more rested from playing Central Florida like foes and having their starters rest half the game.
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Give me a break. If you watch a Memphis game you will see that even with big leads, Cal makes his starters play. He doesn't throw in absolute scrubs with 20-point leads. Every player he plays is in his rotation (save McGrady). Maybe the reason Memphis does so well in the tournament is because they play aruably the toughest OOC in the country to prepare his team for the grind of the tourny. Seriously, how many teams could have gone into that Sweet 16 atmosphere against Texas A&M and Acie Law (In San Antonio, no less) and pulled off a win with their best defensive fouled out. Good Luck doing that.
 
#96
#96
General Jack said:
One or two final fours and I think a Big 12 championship (2005?).
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OK, I couldn't let this one go by. With an athletic department budget that exceeds the GNP of several small countries, I believe Rick Barnes has led Texas to one Big 12 CO-CHAMPIONSHIP. I believe they shared the 2005 title with KANSAS (It was one of our 50.)

Don't confuse how good a coach is with how much he's accomplished so far. Bruce Pearl continues to make the most of his opportunities. I'm still hoping the Vols and the Jayhawks meet for all the marbles and at least one of our coaches will have the answer to that question, "Is he the real deal?"

And by the way--the thread on the North Carolina-Clemson sounded just like ours, except we don't have first-hand knowledge on the ref...

ROCK CHALK!
 
#98
#98
hatvol96 said:
I'm pretty sure the presence on campus of Kevin Durant or Michael Beasley and Bill Walker would have excited Tennessee fans.
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That's true. With Pearl we haven't gotten a one and done. Hopefully we will have years of sustained success. Neither of those players would have gotten a practice facility or a renovated TBA.
 
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#99
JZVOL said:
That's true. With Pearl we haven't gotten a one and done. Hopefully we will have years of sustained success. Neither of those players would have gotten a practice facility or a renovated TBA.
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Bob Huggins or Rick Barnes would have raised the money necessary for the practice facility within 3 months of taking the job.
 
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#100
JZVOL said:
That's true. With Pearl we haven't gotten a one and done. Hopefully we will have years of sustained success. Neither of those players would have gotten a practice facility or a renovated TBA.
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Tony Wroten, Jr. might just be the man for that job.
 
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