Where is the next Kamara?

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WiseOlVol said:
Watch the Texas AM game.
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I agree. Kamara showed why they played Hurd ahead of him in that game. He's electric but he also put it on the ground not once but twice in that game.

He is very loose with the football. That's why Hurd played ahead of him. Jones knew he could trust Hurd to carry it 25 times and not fumble.
 
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BigZiti09 said:
I agree. Kamara showed why they played Hurd ahead of him in that game. He's electric but he also put it on the ground not once but twice in that game.

He is very loose with the football. That's why Hurd played ahead of him. Jones knew he could trust Hurd to carry it 25 times and not fumble.
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Great decision by Jones if true. Let's play the guy who gets 4 yards per touch over the guy who gets 7 yards per touch because the guy who gets 7 yards per touch fumbled 5 times, or once every 57 touches, during his 2 seasons at Tennessee. Makes sense. Especially since I can recall 3-4 fumbles from Hurd as well.
 
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#53
They've probably got such a talent in Byrd albeit at a different position, but they're just as clueless as to how to use and get him more involved in the offense as well. Folks rave about Kamara's talent/ability and rightfully so, but look at how under utilized he was until Hurd forced the staff's hand. Why do we need to question why kids like Higgins go elsewhere to play? Hoping this new staff will have more of a clue, but this is UT we're talking about. Never set a high bar. Never get high expectations. Like Lucy holding the football for Charlie Brown, UT fans should know what's coming as surely as the sun rises. Again.....this is UT sports where underachieving is the norm....in every sport.
 
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If they don't take better care of the football, it doesn't matter. Fumbles cost the '16 team a trip to the SECCG. Fumbled away the aTm game, sc game and Vandy game.
 
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#58
I loved Kamara; especially on the last play of the season (4th and 4 against Vandy), and I hear a Vandy fan behind me, "he didn't even try to pick up the first down." In other words he basically ran out of bounds.
 
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wmcovol said:
If they don't take better care of the football, it doesn't matter. Fumbles cost the '16 team a trip to the SECCG. Fumbled away the aTm game, sc game and Vandy game.
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Fumbles didn't cost us either the SCar or Vandy games....poor qb/offense vs SCar and incredibly bad defense and 3 second half points vs Vandy did us in those 2 games. Btw, only lost 3 fumbles those two games, 2 by Dobbs, 1 by Kelly, none by AK.
 
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BACKDOC said:
I loved Kamara; especially on the last play of the season (4th and 4 against Vandy), and I hear a Vandy fan behind me, "he didn't even try to pick up the first down." In other words he basically ran out of bounds.
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I kinda loved him for his 141 yards of offense on only 18 touches and 3 tds that game.....without all that, his stepping out of bounds on 4th down never means anything.
 
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chatt-townVOL said:
The next Kamara won't come here because he knows the first Kamara got benched for Jalen Hurd for God-knows-what reason.
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He didn't get benched for Jalen Hurd. Hurd was the starter when Kamara got here. Hurd is a dam good RB, who if running from the I, would be a first round draftee.

That being said, we've had backs like Charlie Garner, Chuck Webb and Jamal Lewis play here. All of whom were among the best 1-2 in the country while they were here.
 
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KBVol said:
Fumbles didn't cost us either the SCar or Vandy games....poor qb/offense vs SCar and incredibly bad defense and 3 second half points vs Vandy did us in those 2 games. Btw, only lost 3 fumbles those two games, 2 by Dobbs, 1 by Kelly, none by AK.
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Bad QB play included fumbles and pics which caused that loss to SC. Vandy loss was a multitude of issues. Kamara was underutilized but there were many times when he would break a tackle just to get shoe stringed by the next player right before he broke the big one and he would pop up and slap the ball.
 
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#63
Problem with Kamara is he got hurt when he got full-time carries. The guy is very elusive, but when he got rocked it was devastating. I don't know if he can take punishment from the Hightowers of the world.
 
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Burger said:
Problem with Kamara is he got hurt when he got full-time carries. The guy is very elusive, but when he got rocked it was devastating. I don't know if he can take punishment from the Hightowers of the world.
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No RB that wants to have a career should take hits from physical defenders like Hightower or Chancellor etc on a weekly basis.

Part of being a great runner is to have that body lean that gives when needed.
 
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LittleVol said:
No RB that wants to have a career should take hits from physical defenders like Hightower or Chancellor etc on a weekly basis.

Part of being a great runner is to have that body lean that gives when needed.
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Kamara is going to take hits from somebody like that every week. It's the nature of the position. He got hurt by taking hits in college, imagine when he gets tagged by someone like Hightower.
 
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Burger said:
Problem with Kamara is he got hurt when he got full-time carries. The guy is very elusive, but when he got rocked it was devastating. I don't know if he can take punishment from the Hightowers of the world.
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Iirc, the late hit out of bounds vs Bama is was caused Kamara's injury/tweaked knee, don't think it was a toughness issue. He thrived when he got 26 touches vs TAM a week earlier. Who knows, jury still out on him since he was so under utilized, but it doesn't seem to be scaring NFL GMs away.
 
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#67
There isnt one! Sad but true. And may not be one for quite some time.

We were fortunate to have Kamara fall in our lap but I think it had more to do with us being number two and this is where his buddy Croom played.

I hope that Butch don't mismanage our players going forward and make costly promises.
 
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#68
#68
I'm not sure we'll have another RB with Kamara's diverse skill set for a while.

That being said, I think CFA has a similar skill set in the passing game as Kamara. He was very good catching the ball in high school. He could probably play slot in a pinch if it was really needed.


I'm not sure he's as good of a pure RB as other guys like Kelly and Chandler though. Will be interesting to see what kind of role he can carve out for himself in 2017 and 2018.
 
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wtorange said:
What game did we lose because Hurd got the start?
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Hard to say. AK was much more dynamic and productive with his touches. Gotta believe that the lumbering Hurd, who struggled creating dynamic splash plays, left plenty of yards on the field (and maybe if not likely a few scores) that Kamara would've gotten.
 
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KBVol said:
Hard to say. AK was much more dynamic and productive with his touches. Gotta believe that the lumbering Hurd, who struggled creating dynamic splash plays, left plenty of yards on the field (and maybe if not likely a few scores) that Kamara would've gotten.
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For 2016 Hurd, yeah.

But in 2015, Hurd had his fair share of runs where he made something out of nothing too. His game against UF in 2015 was one of the best I've seen a RB have for UT in quite some time. There were a number of times defenders should've had him down for a loss and he turned it into an 8-10 yard rush.


Kamara is definitely more dynamic, but Hurd's 2015 season was nothing to write off either. His value as a pass blocker was huge with the OL struggles that year as well.


In 2016 you could tell he didn't have his heart in it, though.
 
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volgrad500 said:
I love how Kamara is now Walter Payton. But he couldn't get into the starting lineup most of the time here.
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In Kamara's defense he should have started the day he got on campus. It will forever be a mystery why he was so severely underused by Butch and Debord.
 
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KBVol said:
Iirc, the late hit out of bounds vs Bama is was caused Kamara's injury/tweaked knee, don't think it was a toughness issue. He thrived when he got 26 touches vs TAM a week earlier. Who knows, jury still out on him since he was so under utilized, but it doesn't seem to be scaring NFL GMs away.
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Still,that will knock down his durability. Otherwise, he'd be a perfect lightning piece to a run game.
 
#74
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Ez_Vol said:
There isnt one! Sad but true. And may not be one for quite some time.

We were fortunate to have Kamara fall in our lap but I think it had more to do with us being number two and this is where his buddy Croom played.

I hope that Butch don't mismanage our players going forward and make costly promises.
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He will. He's mismanaged a lot of guys already.
 
#75
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VolZen said:
Hope his knee is all good for the fall.
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In your opinion, does EB compare to AK? Did you forget about EB when you made your original post or do you not think he is capable of doing some of the things you mentioned bc of his knee?
 
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