Where is the next Kamara?

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VolZen said:
Lots of ifs:

If he is the only option not splitting too many carries because of inconsistent depth behind him.

If the Oline improves a bit with experience and new coaching.

If we lean more heavily on the run because of a new QB.

If he stays healthy.

Lots of ifs, but it would not surprise me if it happened this year.
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And he is a lot faster than Hurd .. Hurds 3 yard gain on a edge rush would be more like 4-5 with Kelly
 
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chatt-townVOL said:
The next Kamara won't come here because he knows the first Kamara got benched for Jalen Hurd for God-knows-what reason.
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The next Kamara will come here because we don't overuse them. RBs have a limited shelf life in the NFL, especially if they get used up in college (Ron Dayne, Richardson, etc). I think that is what Hurd was worried about.

We also transformed average guys like Marlin Lane and Raijon Neal in to serviceable RBs.
 
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volgrad500 said:
I love how Kamara is now Walter Payton. But he couldn't get into the starting lineup most of the time here.
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He's no sweetness but AK is a very special talent. Not being in the starting lineup had more to do with JH throwing fits to be the centerpiece and CBJ letting it happen.

AK has the burst to get to the 2nd level, the power to run between the tackles and shed tacklers, and great vision. Also a dangerous return man.

He wasnt perfect by no means but was good enough to be a feature back for bout any power 5 team and he was grossly underutilized here.
 
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HuntlandVolinColo said:
The next Kamara will come here because we don't overuse them. RBs have a limited shelf life in the NFL, especially if they get used up in college (Ron Dayne, Richardson, etc). I think that is what Hurd was worried about.

We also transformed average guys like Marlin Lane and Raijon Neal in to serviceable RBs.
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Raijon had incredible talent.

Just wasn't very physical.

Marlin had no speed.

Both had their bright spots, and played well.
 
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The next Kamara is exactly where the original started. Buried on the depth chart at Alabama.
 
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LittleVol said:
Raijon had incredible talent.

Just wasn't very physical.

Marlin had no speed.

Both had their bright spots, and played well.
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One of Dooley's most accurate lines... "Some guys' first instinct is to run or fight. Raijon's is to take a nap."
 
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VolZen said:
I love John Kelly don't get me wrong, but we lack proven depth. I really feel like our offense needs a RB with good vision that can make one cut and get into the secondary. A guy that can be hard to find behind the OL and can catch a swing or screen and get a huge chunk of yards. Other than Kelly do we have anyone on campus or coming in that can do this? Fils-Aime or Chandler?
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Hope he's already on the roster!
 
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chatt-townVOL said:
The next Kamara won't come here because he knows the first Kamara got benched for Jalen Hurd for God-knows-what reason.
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Because he couldn't handle the load of carries and he fumbled too often. Also Hurd was pretty good.

That's the reasons if you seriously don't know.
 
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VolZen said:
Yes this is part of my remorse. He was so underutilized and now he gone.

The cool thing about Kamara is he was not out of place between the tackles and could pack some power. Or he could make you look silly in space. Or could use the power and break a few tackles if you could get your hands on him in space.
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If I was a GM I'd be excited about the fact that AK doesn't have a lot of wear and tear on him.
 
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Vols All Day said:
Yeah it's like they forgot how easily Kamara would go down if someone touched him. Kamara was good, but he wasn't as great as everyone in this thread is making him seem.
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Go down easily? Unless somebody got a really clean, squared up look at him, it didn't happen.

Kamara was statistically one of the top 5-6 most elusive/best running backs at breaking tackles in the country in both 2015 and 2016 according to pro football focus. By comparison, Hurd was nowhere to be found on the list either year.

Was he Bo Jackson, no. But he was easily one of the best, most dynamic RBs in the country and deserved way, way more involvement in the offense than he got while here. There's a reason why many draft analysts have him top 3-5 on their board.
 
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I did not interpret the original post to be restricted to running backs, so I would include Tyler Byrd as a mention in this discussion, as he has some explosive speed and is of a solid build -- 195? -- to break a tackle or two. He could have explosive runs from the slot, end-arounds, and take screen passes for extra yds.

I am sure I'm gonna get, yeah, well we didn't see too much of that last year. But remember he was a true freshman and into to SEC football can be a shock to a young kid.

Let's see how he does with this second year, more knowledge of playbook, more confidence, less hesitation, maybe a bit more muscle. We'll see.
 
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KBVol said:
Go down easily? Unless somebody got a really clean, squared up look at him, it didn't happen.

Kamara was statistically one of the top 5-6 most elusive/best running backs at breaking tackles in the country in both 2015 and 2016 according to pro football focus. By comparison, Hurd was nowhere to be found on the list either year.

Was he Bo Jackson, no. But he was easily one of the best, most dynamic RBs in the country and deserved way, way more involvement in the offense than he got while here. There's a reason why many draft analysts have him top 3-5 on their board.
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agreed. not sure where that's coming from, even when he got tackled, he was standing up looking down at the guy...lol.

dude was slippery, and really not an easy tackle. dude's got balance and strength in the lower body, he can get small.

the freaky thing is that, because of that, when Kamara did get tackled, it was usually a god awful event that you thought he just had his head taken off, and there's no way he's getting up....
 
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I'm a huge fan of both Kamara and Dobbs, but am I the only one that thinks both were pretty inconsistent? Look like Heisman Candidates one game, look pretty average the next. Maybe that's why Kamara didn't see the field more; I don't know, just trying to rationalize it.

And as for the Hurd situation, it sounds like that and the S & C situation were both handled poorly.
 
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VolZen said:
I love John Kelly don't get me wrong, but we lack proven depth. I really feel like our offense needs a RB with good vision that can make one cut and get into the secondary. A guy that can be hard to find behind the OL and can catch a swing or screen and get a huge chunk of yards. Other than Kelly do we have anyone on campus or coming in that can do this? Fils-Aime or Chandler?
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It very well could be Chandler. The youngster was highly sought. He very well could be our #2 this year.
 
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Kamara was a great player last year but he still had some really bad mental errors. The fumble against A&M inside the 5 and running out of bounds on 4th down against Vandy
 
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Vols All Day said:
Yeah it's like they forgot how easily Kamara would go down if someone touched him. Kamara was good, but he wasn't as great as everyone in this thread is making him seem.
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He was pretty damn good. He didn't play bc of Hurd. I was ok with him. Not playing Hurds sophomore season, but not last year. He and Kelly were better than Hurd.
 
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orangebloodgmc said:
I did not interpret the original post to be restricted to running backs, so I would include Tyler Byrd as a mention in this discussion, as he has some explosive speed and is of a solid build -- 195? -- to break a tackle or two. He could have explosive runs from the slot, end-arounds, and take screen passes for extra yds.

I am sure I'm gonna get, yeah, well we didn't see too much of that last year. But remember he was a true freshman and into to SEC football can be a shock to a young kid.

Let's see how he does with this second year, more knowledge of playbook, more confidence, less hesitation, maybe a bit more muscle. We'll see.
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People seem to have a short memory when it comes to Bryd. He didn't get the ball much because of inexperience and being behind Jennings and Malone. When he did have the ball, he was as electrifying as anyone out there, and I saw him break several tackles. I was actually surprised at how strong he was for a frosh.
I expect he'll get a lot more touches/ receptions this year unless Jones doesn't use him.
I would love to see him at corner but I think he has all-star potential at receiver too. Those who don't believe me should go back and YouTube his freshmen year. Better than some people remember.
 
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