Where is everyone who wanted Stephens to start

#52
#52
Good post by Corona. I don't look for the numbers vs Bama because they are a much better D. However, if JC throws the ball well and avoids turnovers then the WR's catch the ball like the did Sat... I'll be satisfied.
 
#53
#53
Still here.

I still don't trust Crompton. He'll need to be consistent to earn my respect back. I'm not gonna call for his head these next two weeks, however, I'm not expecting him to have turned it around in 1 game.

I sure as hell hope he has, but I'm not counting on it. Hopefully he builds on the performance, though.
 
#54
#54
ClearwaterVol said:
Last 3 games...

57/104 791yds 8tds 2int

JC, as many on here have continued to point out, is trending in the right direction.
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You might be right...54% completion rating ain't off the chart...but I guess I will take it.(And yes, I know all the incompletions are not his fault.)
 
#56
#56
Titans4Vols said:
Still here.

I still don't trust Crompton. He'll need to be consistent to earn my respect back. I'm not gonna call for his head these next two weeks, however, I'm not expecting him to have turned it around in 1 game.

I sure as hell hope he has, but I'm not counting on it. Hopefully he builds on the performance, though.
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I'm not ready to trust JC OR the WR's yet either... but it has been 3 weeks for JC, not one. He's thrown the ball well since the UF game. He's needed more help from the WR's.

I am not saying he's been perfect... but very seldom can you say that about any QB. Both QB's in the MNF game made some bad throws. It happens. What can't happen is for WR's to run routes incorrectly or to drop a multitude of passes.

I think CLK said they counted 6 drops in the Aub game. That is enough to completely change the outcome of the game.
 
#57
#57
Volfan8282 said:
I disagree wholeheartedly. Crompton could physically be an NFL QB. It's all mental with him. It is a complete crapshoot week to week with him. Everyone should know this now and not be surprised at all if he reverts back to the UCLA game. No one should EXPECT him to play well. It's a coin flip.
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At least we have seen actual evidence of him playing well. I remember Clausen last year commenting he doesn't play like that in practice. I'll admit I was one of the masses calling for him to be benched after playing poorly against Auburn. And we all must give CLK some credit for not succumbing to the will of the masses and sticking to his guns. There is a chance if he plays that well against the Tide that we could shock college football. I'm happy for JC, he did endure too much BS from fans who take this all way too seriously. When JC climbed into the stands after the game to hug his sobbing father other players parents hugged the Cromptons to show their unity after they have suffered untold insults from fans and media. Got to keep this real and in perspective.
 
#58
#58
Wow: what are we supposed to do, cartwheels around the neighborhood because our 5th year senior QB got the ball to wide-open receivers? Crompton did what he needed to do--and what any competent QB would do. Had he shown such competence last year and earlier this year, the Vols would have won at least five or six games that they lost. Good grief: We did nothing but throw swing passes for three games because the coaches had so little confidence in our passing game. Midway through your senior season is a LITTLE late to start showing progress, but better late than never...
 
#59
#59
I think the general point is not that Crompton is all world (especially after one game), but rather he is the best we have.

There are people calling for NS every day, but Kiffin has repeatedly said JC is our guy.

Most of us think this staff knows what they are doing and have us heading in the right direction, but somehow think they can't figure out that NS is a better QB or fit for our offense. These guys see them every day. I will trust them.

Also, I have heard Doug Mathews say two weeks in a row that the staff has zero faith in NS (which is obvious) and that he doesn't think he will be here next year. He says he doesn't believe the staff cares if he comes back or not.
 
#60
#60
Titans4Vols said:
Still here.

I still don't trust Crompton. He'll need to be consistent to earn my respect back. I'm not gonna call for his head these next two weeks, however, I'm not expecting him to have turned it around in 1 game.

I sure as hell hope he has, but I'm not counting on it. Hopefully he builds on the performance, though.
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+2
 
#61
#61
armchair said:
Wow: what are we supposed to do, cartwheels around the neighborhood because our 5th year senior QB got the ball to wide-open receivers? Crompton did what he needed to do--and what any competent QB would do. Had he shown such competence last year and earlier this year, the Vols would have won at least five or six games that they lost. Good grief: We did nothing but throw swing passes for three games because the coaches had so little confidence in our passing game. Midway through your senior season is a LITTLE late to start showing progress, but better late than never...
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Yeah, what Armchair said. +1.
 
#64
#64
Capt Straight said:
Over the past few weeks, I have grown sick of all the posters on this site calling for Crompton's head and wanting him replaced with Stephens. All along, I have been saying that there is a reason Stephens is #2.

So far as I know, none of us on this site is a coach although many of us post like we are.

We paid Kiffin alot of money to come to UT and should respect his choices in the line up. We can see from yesterday's game that he has made the correct choice.

Go Vols!
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Just to point out, one good game doesn't redeem Crompton completely. Kudos to him on the great game. If he plays well for another 2-3 games, then we can truly say he is a success. Everyone is so quick to judge on the site. All I know is that Crompton has many many many more horrible games under his belt than good ones, and a betting man relies a little on trends.
 
#65
#65
armchair said:
because Crompton finally gets the ball to wide-open receivers in game six of his senior season, we're all supposed to fall supine on the floor and praise his quarterbacking greatness? Please. He's been terrible for more than a year, the receivers have been lousy, too--so I'm happy we've FINALLY got a passing game. But we've lost three games already and precisely because Stephens isn't playing ANY we're going to be in the same bad shape at QB next year as we have been this year. It's nice to play well on offense for a change--how long has it been?--but all this talk now of crompton being the man just shows how far we've fallen in recent years--the fans grasping....
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I must ask then, "Would you start Stephens against Alabama?"
 
#66
#66
count me in the 'anybody but crompton' department. i'm sorry, but one swallow doesn't a summer make. crompton is a senior, not a red shirt freshman. the people who were screaming for his head were considering his entire body of work, and that adds up to one thing--a monumental bust. what are the odds that the j.c. we saw last weekend will show up in tuscaloosa rather than the one who has stunk it up ever since danny ainge hit the road? even though a blind hog can find an acorn ocassionally, don't count on it happening regularly.
 
#68
#68
If we're being "realistic" then I don't expect another GA game from JC in 2 weeks either. While we have time to get better offensively, Alabama & Nick Saban are a lot better then Georgia & Willie Martinez. So I expect a regression on offense, the million dollar question is how much - to a FL level, or a Auburn level, or to a UCLA disaster? I'm hoping for a FL game with some more guys making plays around him. If he can keep us in the game with a chance in the 4th Qtr then he's done great in my book. Not great really, but great relatively. :crazy:
 
#69
#69
I am 100% for whoever Kiffin chooses at QB. I just wonder sometimes when the "Jeckyl and Hyde" Crompton makes error after error why Kiffin refuses to make a change. It would seem as though the threat of competition or the loss of the starting job would create better decisions for Crompton. I just dont believe Crompton is a good athlete.

Props to the O-Line, WR's and the WHOLE Defense this past week against Georgia!!!

The wide receivers made some great catches this week.

Is it ME or does everyone just cringe everytime Crompton prepares to throw the ball??????

:good!:

GO VOLS!!!!
 
#70
#70
As an orange nation we have been sick for weeks. Jon along with the rest of the team gave us just what the doctor ordered. For atleast the next two weeks i'm feeling great.
 
#71
#71
The responses are common on any team that is not undefeated. Every fan is looking for a person to point their finger at to blame. Last year it was all the QB's and Arian Foster fumbles. The year before that it was Foster, the year before that it was Ainge, each year it is always someone. The only problem is the fans have taken it to far the past season and a half. The death threats, the constant booing and the same said fans wondering why this kid was still the QB or had not improved. The reason JC has played this season is because the staff has evaluated both QB's, and based on their evaluation JC gives them the best chance. Fans should not take their frustration out on someone who is told by the coach to go out and play, fans should support these players win, lose or draw and take their displeasure out with the coaching staff.

Will JC come out in the Bama game and be as good as he was against GA? no he will not, but he will do the best he can possibly do. In the long run isn't that all we can really ask from any player, just to give it their best. If their best is not good enough to earn a W, we should still support them for trying and giving them self the opportunity to play FBS.
 
#72
#72
JC could have a UGA type performance against Bama, but you wont see it in the stats.

That type of performance would look like 16-27 205 yrds. 2tds. 1 Int.

I would take that.
 
#73
#73
sjt18 said:
I'm not ready to trust JC OR the WR's yet either... but it has been 3 weeks for JC, not one. He's thrown the ball well since the UF game. He's needed more help from the WR's.

I am not saying he's been perfect... but very seldom can you say that about any QB. Both QB's in the MNF game made some bad throws. It happens. What can't happen is for WR's to run routes incorrectly or to drop a multitude of passes.

I think CLK said they counted 6 drops in the Aub game. That is enough to completely change the outcome of the game.
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This. Stole my words, sjt.

Personally, I don't care if Crompton, Stephens, or Elmer Fudd play QB. Just play the damn position, and don't repeat mistakes.

Crompton has, at times...most times...looked completely lost in the pocket. He stares down his primary receiver, which is the equivalent of a neon sign to the corner and safety that say "Here's where the ball is going". Not only does that expose Crompton to an INT, it also exposes the targeted receiver to what we used to call a "hospital ball". If you've ever played football at any level beyond PeeWee, you know what I mean.

Six games in, and Crompton has two good games (WKU, GA), two bad ones (UCLA, AUB), and two toss-ups (UF, Ohio). That's a 2-2-2 hockey record, which isn't going to win the Stanley Cup...the Heisman Trophy...or even get 2nd place in the SEC...East. It is what it is.

For me, Crompton took a huge step forward on Saturday, and I was one of those calling for Stephens to replace him. Now, Jon...prove me wrong...roll out and make plays, or at least stop tossing "mole killers"...give your offense a fighting chance.

We know you can do it. Once you know you can do it, and believe in yourself, you have a chance.

And so do the Vols.

Go Vols.
 
#74
#74
I'm still here. What's gonna happen happen when JC stinks it up again? People are blowing him up for one game :nono:.
 
#75
#75
cabell4vols said:
I am 100% for whoever Kiffin chooses at QB. I just wonder sometimes when the "Jeckyl and Hyde" Crompton makes error after error why Kiffin refuses to make a change. It would seem as though the threat of competition or the loss of the starting job would create better decisions for Crompton. I just dont believe Crompton is a good athlete.
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CLK said it was because JC gives the Vols their best opportunity to win. As direct as he's been concerning everything else concerning the team's performance... I'm inclined to take that one at face value too.

Props to the O-Line, WR's and the WHOLE Defense this past week against Georgia!!!
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I agree... but the WR's WERE a HUGE problem in the passing game. They were enough of a problem that some of the things JC was blamed for were their errors. IMHO, JC has been throwing well enough to have that kind of performance for the last three games. It is hard for a QB to get a rhythm when there are 5 drops in his first 12 passes like there were vs Aub.

The wide receivers made some great catches this week.
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For the most part, they just caught the ones that hit their hands or chest... like they should have been doing all along.

Their biggest improvement was in route running. ZR ran a weak route on the INT (still hold JC accountable for that one because he had time to react to it). Other than that, the WR's were where they should have been, JC put the ball where it needed to be, and they caught it. Strangely... That's what I said needed to happen before the game.

Bottom line- the biggest improvement this past week wasn't JC... it was the receivers. He has been throwing it well.
Is it ME or does everyone just cringe everytime Crompton prepares to throw the ball??????
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Only to the extent that some of the guys had as many drops as receptions going in... with some having the tendency to knock the ball up into the air.
 
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