Where I stand on Trump

#27
#27
n_huffhines said:
It's cool that your bank account has grown under Trump, but he's a big government central planner with socialist policies of his own. He spends like a maniac, signing the dems bills and allowing them to rewrite the USMCA to make it worse, all while they are impeaching the cuck in chief. He's selling our kids and grandkids down the river with a mountain of debt and economic policies that will hurt our future.

Aside from the absurd political theater, it's business as usual in Washington. The market happened to recover from a recession on Trump's watch and we're just gonna ignore all the bad because we got a little richer.
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Stop blaming him for spending. There's so much pork in bills that MUST be passed it's ridiculous.
 
#28
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Rasputin_Vol said:
Well, I still don't see Hillary in jail and I do not like the direction our foreign policy is going.
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Is it really that much worse than don't cross this line? Personally I think Obama was right to avoid joining in outright hostilities there but don't draw lines if you don't intend to follow through. There were other options and the hands off approach did in part lead us to where we are today.
 
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KB5252 said:
Is it really that much worse than don't cross this line? Personally I think Obama was right to avoid joining in outright hostilities there but don't draw lines if you don't intend to follow through. There were other options and the hands off approach did in part lead us to where we are today.
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I guess I'm of the opinion that we shouldn't even be over there to begin with. Trump even said as much before he ran and during his campaign.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
I guess I'm of the opinion that we shouldn't even be over there to begin with. Trump even said as much before he ran and during his campaign.
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I think we were to deeply involved/engaged post war Iraq and Afghanistan. But we have to be involved unless we want to go completely isolationist which just isn't possible in today's world economy.

If there reports are true and he was killed to thwart an imminent attack I have no problem with this action. There may be consequences for action but there's always consequence, including inaction.
 
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KB5252 said:
I think we were to deeply involved/engaged post war Iraq and Afghanistan. But we have to be involved unless we want to go completely isolationist which just isn't possible in today's world economy.
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There's that word again... always being thrown out there when non-interventionism is actually the argument being made.

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If there reports are true and he was killed to thwart an imminent attack...
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There's that word again, also...
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
There's that word again... always being thrown out there when non-interventionism is actually the argument being made.



There's that word again, also...
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Because when the economy is at play and your country has millions if not billions invested in different countries all over the world, even in countries where conflict is normal, it requires you to be involved, sometimes in a military or police capacity. It's the nature of the beast. The only way to avoid that is to invest everything here and become isolationist in nature.

Why would we start the narrative about the recent action taken from the anti stance instead of the pro stance given the reports that there was a strike imminent, especially considering he was in violation, shouldn't have been there. He wasn't there on vacation.
 
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KB5252 said:
I think we were to deeply involved/engaged post war Iraq and Afghanistan. But we have to be involved unless we want to go completely isolationist which just isn't possible in today's world economy.

If there reports are true and he was killed to thwart an imminent attack I have no problem with this action. There may be consequences for action but there's always consequence, including inaction.
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Look at how people reacted when trump drew down Syria. You can’t win. There are major negatives to engaging or withdrawing. It’s a powder keg over there and our economy is too globally affected to be isolationist and I’m an isolationist at heart. If you are going to be isolationist you have to go all or nothing. It will never happen. Too many foreign interest and political strings.
 
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#43
1972 Grad said:
It was "Dub." I did some research and posted it on an edit last night. I also read that Robert Raiford died about 2 years ago at age 89.
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I always loved listening to Raiford , he seemed like a good guy .
 
#46
#46
Vol737 said:
I don’t excuse his or anyone else’s. For the umpteenth time, there is ZERO political will on either side to handle the debt. Watch what happens to the first guy/gal that chirps 20% budget cuts and elimination of programs. Dead on day one.
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Trump said it mattered top him and would be eliminated. What happened?
 
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utvolpj said:
Trump said it mattered top him and would be eliminated. What happened?
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And I recall Obama paying the same lip service to the debt as well. I remember well his speech stating they would go through regulations with a fine toothed comb and eliminate onerous and outdated regs to unshackle the economy. What happened?
 
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Vol737 said:
And I recall Obama paying the same lip service to the debt as well. I remember well his speech stating they would go through regulations with a fine toothed comb and eliminate onerous and outdated regs to unshackle the economy. What happened?
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He lied too. Are you saying they are very similar? I think both suck but some like to pretend it's ok when their guy does it
 
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