Where do scorers come from when scorers graduate?

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It's a problem most teams face every year. It is certainly not the end of the world if a team loses 70% of its scoring and rebounding. Players step up and new players arrive to fill the playing time of the departed. They score and they rebound sometimes better than those they replaced when they take over the minutes. You never know until the first tip-off of the new season just exactly what will transpire. I detect a growing optimism in this forum that the University of Tennessee basketball is in good hands and the sun will rise again on Vol Nation in basketball just like it has in football. Go, Vols!
 
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Problem is personal stats don't win games. If "Jimmy" averaged 4 pts 1reb a game last season and comes in 20pts 12 reb this season... It's either he got better or the rest of the team is worse.
 
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rickyb712 said:
did you not see richardson in the tourney
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Let's see how he does when Stokes and McRae aren't getting all the attention. I think Josh is a very good ball player, but unless Hubbs and others drastically improve he's about the only guy we have that's a proven scorer. Josh will see traps and double teams every game next year, so others must step up or we are not going to be very good.
 
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J-Rich will be all SEC this season and a few others will surprise us all.We will finally get to see what Hubbs is all about and some new recruits could be better than the amount of stars they have been given.19 wins or better is still very possible.Go Vols and HTTR!!
 
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one issue is shooting in HS doesn't really compare to college. Everybody is bigger, stronger and faster. Plus, kids go from being confident and the best player on the court to down the rung and lose confidence. There are always exceptions like Lofton of course, but there are a lot of guys in HS that can fill it up. College shooting is different. To add, their bodies change as most guys put on muscle and you have to always be working on your shot to adjust with your body, whether it be legs, release or whatever. If guys are putting up shots on their own with teammates to practice shooting over taller guys, they'll improve.
All that said, we still need 2 players that do nothing but shoot. We need a couple of players that start to pull up and the whole crowd is already standing up before it goes in.
 
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My hope is that Richardson and Hubbs will both be top 10 SEC scorers next season. With recruiting help, hopefully we will be at least a bubble team for coming season.
 
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SeniorDrill said:
It's a problem most teams face every year. It is certainly not the end of the world if a team loses 70% of its scoring and rebounding. Players step up and new players arrive to fill the playing time of the departed. They score and they rebound sometimes better than those they replaced when they take over the minutes. You never know until the first tip-off of the new season just exactly what will transpire. I detect a growing optimism in this forum that the University of Tennessee basketball is in good hands and the sun will rise again on Vol Nation in basketball just like it has in football. Go, Vols!
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It's a bit easier (for me at least) to be optimistic when we (it seems) have a coach who looks to recruit guys that can actually score a bit at the lower levels. I am of the camp that believes that it's easier to take an offensive minded kid and get him to play defense with coaching than to do it the other way around.
 
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In an ideal program you usually have backups that can take up the slack of players that graduate and you recruit well enough to get players that are capable of playing immediately.
 
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keckjm said:
Let's see how he does when Stokes and McRae aren't getting all the attention. I think Josh is a very good ball player, but unless Hubbs and others drastically improve he's about the only guy we have that's a proven scorer. Josh will see traps and double teams every game next year, so others must step up or we are not going to be very good.
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Realistic expectations is that this team will not be good this fall, perhaps decent. If they play hard and CDT has a top 15 recruiting class coming in 2015 then there can be something to look forward to.There is a lot of ground to make up, but it may take 2-3 yrs. Enjoy the process.
 
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Spartacavolus said:
one issue is shooting in HS doesn't really compare to college. Everybody is bigger, stronger and faster. Plus, kids go from being confident and the best player on the court to down the rung and lose confidence. There are always exceptions like Lofton of course, but there are a lot of guys in HS that can fill it up. College shooting is different. To add, their bodies change as most guys put on muscle and you have to always be working on your shot to adjust with your body, whether it be legs, release or whatever. If guys are putting up shots on their own with teammates to practice shooting over taller guys, they'll improve.
All that said, we still need 2 players that do nothing but shoot. We need a couple of players that start to pull up and the whole crowd is already standing up before it goes in.
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Spart have you seen the crowd in TBA? Pretty much a wine/caviar crowd at times. Your other points are spot on.
 
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Scorers come of the bench when it's full of scorers. Recruit sharp shooters, defense can be taught. :yes:
 
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I think our guard play will be pretty good, Thompson, Hubbs, and Rich are all going to be competent scorers. It's our bigs that everyone is worried about, as it is we've got Pops and McGhee lining up down low... In which case we'll get wrecked.

That's why I think snagging Ellis should be priority #1 on CDT's to do list if we're going to have even an NIT-bound season
 
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SlyStone said:
Spart have you seen the crowd in TBA? Pretty much a wine/caviar crowd at times. Your other points are spot on.
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The last 3 years, I didn't get up much either. But I've been in tba many times when it was fun and energetic. I was 5 feet from Asumnu on a huge dunk on one end and still can see Jujuan Smith's 3 from the corner to dagger Vandy. I have both in super slo mo.
They haven't had any shooters that scare the opponent.
 
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Spartacavolus said:
The last 3 years, I didn't get up much either. But I've been in tba many times when it was fun and energetic. I was 5 feet from Asumnu on a huge dunk on one end and still can see Jujuan Smith's 3 from the corner to dagger Vandy. I have both in super slo mo.
They haven't had any shooters that scare the opponent.
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Jujuan had ice water running through his veins. One of my all time favorite Vols.
 
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Clearly, it's going to be a patchwork team that Donnie puts together his first season at UT, so it’s going to be hard to expect anything approaching excellence his first year out. But I’m more optimistic than I ever was while Cuonzo was in charge. I think we’ve got the kind of coaching now that can overcome lack of team spirit, talent or self-confidence in some players. His first season may be a bit of a disappointment, but as long as he can bring in players worthy of his coaching, I think Vol basketball fans can once again look forward to competing for the pinnacle of the SEC and beyond.
 
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honestly, fans like to see teams lay it on the line and play aggressively. Losses are easier to deal with. Wins are still expected, but you know what I mean. Too many times in the last 3 years, there was no energy and we'd lose some lifeless games 100% due to getting outworked or because the other team was more aggressive.
I feel like if we go down, we'll go down swinging and trying to take it to the opponent rather than let teams dictate our plan.
 
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If we add one great post player I think we can be close to this year's team. That of course would be determined by how Hubbs can takeover for McRae. McRae is our only big loss on the perimeter. I'm thinking we add a point guard at least as good as Barton. The concern with the team is post players. AJ could be good at the four along with McGhee both should be able to get close to the production of Maymon plus Moore is a possibility there. The key is replacing Stokes not easy to do, but I see guys that would be close if we could get them.
 
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Special Ed said:
Clearly, it's going to be a patchwork team that Donnie puts together his first season at UT, so it’s going to be hard to expect anything approaching excellence his first year out. But I’m more optimistic than I ever was while Cuonzo was in charge. I think we’ve got the kind of coaching now that can overcome lack of team spirit, talent or self-confidence in some players. His first season may be a bit of a disappointment, but as long as he can bring in players worthy of his coaching, I think Vol basketball fans can once again look forward to competing for the pinnacle of the SEC and beyond.
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Given the circumstances Donnie can identify with problems Butch inherited coming in. :rolleyes:
 
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Volfan2012 said:
If we add one great post player I think we can be close to this year's team. That of course would be determined by how Hubbs can takeover for McRae. McRae is our only big loss on the perimeter. I'm thinking we add a point guard at least as good as Barton. The concern with the team is post players. AJ could be good at the four along with McGhee both should be able to get close to the production of Maymon plus Moore is a possibility there. The key is replacing Stokes not easy to do, but I see guys that would be close if we could get them.
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Well, it's a guard league really. UConn won it with 3 dominant guards. Our best teams in the last 20 years were guard heavy. Our big men now will come out and set picks to get guys like DT, Hubbs, Jrich, Moore and others shots and lanes to the basket. If our big guy can pick and roll or pop, I like it better than one that sits in the low post. Nobody sitting in the middle means the middle is open, imo.
 
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One of the biggest differences I've noticed in Tyndall teams is they start playing in November.
Not as likely to be playing catch up in January even though they might not close as well.
Also it may be that donnie has mastered the art of scheduling for RPI as evidenced by his last 2 seasons.
 
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SeniorDrill said:
It's a problem most teams face every year. It is certainly not the end of the world if a team loses 70% of its scoring and rebounding. Players step up and new players arrive to fill the playing time of the departed. They score and they rebound sometimes better than those they replaced when they take over the minutes. You never know until the first tip-off of the new season just exactly what will transpire. I detect a growing optimism in this forum that the University of Tennessee basketball is in good hands and the sun will rise again on Vol Nation in basketball just like it has in football. Go, Vols!
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Technically the sun hasn't risen on football yet, but I have faith :eek:k::good!:
 
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dal9 said:
sometimes, a man scorer and a woman scorer love each other very much...
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and they show this love for each other in a very special way...

(so glad you posted this, as I was starting to worry about my brain! :))
 
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