Where did life begin? (Merged)

Do you believe we have a creator, aka "God"?

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#2,601
#2,601
Orangeslice13 said:
I don’t think you’re ignorant at all.
I do think you’re hung up on dogma of the “group” you’ve chosen to identify with.
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No sir, I just simply believe the Bible. :hi:
Romans 1:16 (KJV)
16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.
 
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Psalm 119:89 (KJV)
89 For ever, O LORD, thy word is settled in heaven.
Psalm 119:105 (KJV)
105 Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path.
Psalm 19:7-14 (KJV)
7 The law of the LORD is perfect, converting the soul: the testimony of the LORD is sure, making wise the simple.
8 The statutes of the LORD are right, rejoicing the heart: the commandment of the LORD is pure, enlightening the eyes.
9 The fear of the LORD is clean, enduring for ever: the judgments of the LORD are true and righteous altogether.
10 More to be desired are they than gold, yea, than much fine gold: sweeter also than honey and the honeycomb.
11 Moreover by them is thy servant warned: and in keeping of them there is great reward.
12 Who can understand his errors? cleanse thou me from secret faults.
13 Keep back thy servant also from presumptuous sins; let them not have dominion over me: then shall I be upright, and I shall be innocent from the great transgression.
14 Let the words of my mouth, and the meditation of my heart, be acceptable in thy sight, O LORD, my strength, and my redeemer.
Psalm 119:9-12 (KJV)
9 Wherewithal shall a young man cleanse his way? by taking heed thereto according to thy word.
10 With my whole heart have I sought thee: O let me not wander from thy commandments.
11 Thy word have I hid in mine heart, that I might not sin against thee.
12 Blessed art thou, O LORD: teach me thy statutes.
 
#2,604
#2,604
The Ron Mexico said:
Because he uses the term “historical science” and equates it to actual observational science. He is an embarrassment to Christians who use critical thinking skills.
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Well, if you don't like him, then don't use him. I have no problem with him. Besides, nobody is perfect. Me, you or anybody else for that matter.
and I'm still gonna side with the Bible! :hi:
 
#2,605
#2,605
BigO95 said:
No sir, I just simply believe the Bible. :hi:
Romans 1:16 (KJV)
16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.
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I believe it as well.
It doesn’t offer information on the age of the earth but insinuates old. Very old.
 
#2,606
#2,606
BigO95 said:
I studied enough to know that I have a copy of the Word of God! What a great comfort. What an intelligent, intellectual decision!! 😀
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Big ups to you for keeping it real. Don't let the haters troll you.
 
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#2,608
BigO95 said:
Well, if you don't like him, then don't use him. I have no problem with him. Besides, nobody is perfect. Me, you or anybody else for that matter.
and I'm still gonna side with the Bible! :hi:
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Yeah, this isn’t about being perfect. I never suggested I was. And understanding basic terms isn’t about being perfect.
 
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The Ron Mexico said:
Please don’t use Ken Ham as a source.
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Ken Ham will go down as a national hero for his scientific discoveries in creationism. Have you seen his video on bananas and how they fit perfectly in the hand and the mouth?

Ground breaking and irrefutable.
 
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The Ron Mexico said:
I got the video tour. It made me cry for humanity.
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A literal six day creation is no more far fetched than some of the ridiculous stuff some people call science. :hi: Common sense would be a good place to start a scientific theory. We as a nation don't seem to have very much of that anymore. :eek:hmy:
 
#2,615
#2,615
Orangeslice13 said:
So......no advancement on how life started?
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Jesus Christ spoke the world into existence.
Colossians 1:12-20 (KJV)
12 Giving thanks unto the Father, which hath made us meet to be partakers of the inheritance of the saints in light:
13 Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son:
14 In whom we have redemption through his blood, even the forgiveness of sins:
15 Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:
16 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:
17 And he is before all things, and by him all things consist.
18 And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence.
19 For it pleased the Father that in him should all fulness dwell;
20 And, having made peace through the blood of his cross, by him to reconcile all things unto himself; by him, I say, whether they be things in earth, or things in heaven.
John 1:1-3 (KJV)
1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
2 The same was in the beginning with God.
3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
John 1:14 (KJV)
14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.
I believe this to be scientifically accurate! :)
 
#2,617
#2,617
Orangeslice13 said:
My personal bias is well documented in these forums. for those of you who don't know, I'm a Conservative religious nut job. I believe G-d created all things billions of years ago and gave it a push. from there everything evolved after it's own kind. My question is for those who come from an opposing view point.
How did life spontaneously start form non living mater?
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This is the OP.
So I ask again....
Any new or updated theories?
 
#2,618
#2,618
BigO95 said:
Jesus Christ spoke the world into existence.
Colossians 1:12-20 (KJV)
12 Giving thanks unto the Father, which hath made us meet to be partakers of the inheritance of the saints in light:
13 Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son:
14 In whom we have redemption through his blood, even the forgiveness of sins:
15 Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:
16 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:
17 And he is before all things, and by him all things consist.
18 And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence.
19 For it pleased the Father that in him should all fulness dwell;
20 And, having made peace through the blood of his cross, by him to reconcile all things unto himself; by him, I say, whether they be things in earth, or things in heaven.
John 1:1-3 (KJV)
1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
2 The same was in the beginning with God.
3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
John 1:14 (KJV)
14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.
I believe this to be scientifically accurate! :)
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Shema Israel.



One is not 3
 
#2,620
#2,620
Orangeslice13 said:
Shema Israel.



One is not 3
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I should probably include:
Revelation 1:8 (KJV)
8 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.
Genesis 1:1 (KJV)
1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
Zechariah 12:4-10 (KJV)
4 In that day, saith the LORD, I will smite every horse with astonishment, and his rider with madness: and I will open mine eyes upon the house of Judah, and will smite every horse of the people with blindness.
5 And the governors of Judah shall say in their heart, The inhabitants of Jerusalem shall be my strength in the LORD of hosts their God.
6 In that day will I make the governors of Judah like an hearth of fire among the wood, and like a torch of fire in a sheaf; and they shall devour all the people round about, on the right hand and on the left: and Jerusalem shall be inhabited again in her own place, even in Jerusalem.
7 The LORD also shall save the tents of Judah first, that the glory of the house of David and the glory of the inhabitants of Jerusalem do not magnify themselves against Judah.
8 In that day shall the LORD defend the inhabitants of Jerusalem; and he that is feeble among them at that day shall be as David; and the house of David shall be as God, as the angel of the LORD before them.
9 And it shall come to pass in that day, that I will seek to destroy all the nations that come against Jerusalem.
10 And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn.
who is speaking in verse 10? here's a hint, read verse 4
 
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#2,625
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BigO95 said:
I should probably include:
Revelation 1:8 (KJV)
8 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.
Genesis 1:1 (KJV)
1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
Zechariah 12:4-10 (KJV)
4 In that day, saith the LORD, I will smite every horse with astonishment, and his rider with madness: and I will open mine eyes upon the house of Judah, and will smite every horse of the people with blindness.
5 And the governors of Judah shall say in their heart, The inhabitants of Jerusalem shall be my strength in the LORD of hosts their God.
6 In that day will I make the governors of Judah like an hearth of fire among the wood, and like a torch of fire in a sheaf; and they shall devour all the people round about, on the right hand and on the left: and Jerusalem shall be inhabited again in her own place, even in Jerusalem.
7 The LORD also shall save the tents of Judah first, that the glory of the house of David and the glory of the inhabitants of Jerusalem do not magnify themselves against Judah.
8 In that day shall the LORD defend the inhabitants of Jerusalem; and he that is feeble among them at that day shall be as David; and the house of David shall be as God, as the angel of the LORD before them.
9 And it shall come to pass in that day, that I will seek to destroy all the nations that come against Jerusalem.
10 And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn.
who is speaking in verse 10?
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So.....in Rev 5 God is on the throne. Everyone is sad because nobody can open the scroll. Then in walks God. Now everyone is happy because God on the throne says that God who just walked in is worthy to open the scroll. So God takes the scroll from Gods hand. Then God opens the scroll reads it and takes his rightful seat at the right hand of himself.

Or......

As Jesus said. Jesus is not God because he has a God.
John 20:17.

Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God.


^^^^^^^^^^Jesus has a God.


Now if Jesus is God then why does he submit himself to himself when all things are finished?

1 cor 15.

then the culmination, when he hands over the Kingdom to God the Father, after having put an end to every rulership, yes, to every authority and power. 25 For he has to rule until he puts all his enemies under his feet. 26 The last enemy to be done away with will be death, 27 for "He put everything in subjection under his feet."m But when it says that "everything" has been subjected, obviously the word does not include God, who is himself the one subjecting everything to the Messiah. 28 Now when everything has been subjected to the Son, then he will subject himself to God, who subjected everything to him; so that God may be everything in everyone.

Read 28 carefully.
God and the Son are not the same being.


There is one G-d and one Lord Yeshua the Messiah whom G-d sent.
 
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