When you hire a mediocre coach....

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Vols5150

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You get mediocre results.
I don’t blame Dooley. He is what he is. If you’re looking for someone to blame, blame Hamilton.

Hamilton single-handedly set this program back a decade. His first mistake was hiring a scumbag to run the program. And for all LK apologists who, even to this day defend the hire, you too are part of the problem. You need look no further than his results…….this looser has taken USC (an elite program loaded with talent) and turned them into a middle-of –the-back PAC12 team. Not only is he a bad coach, he even sucks as a human being. Nice job there, Hammy.

Then MH turns around after that debacle, and what “brilliant” move does he make? He hires an average (at best) coach to go up against the likes of Saban, Meyer, Petrino, etc. I mean, really? DD from LA Tech? I, like many, tried to be positive. But the cold, hard truth is that we will never compete with the big dogs in this conference until we get a winner in the HC position. It’s that simple. You don’t take a gamble, you don’t settle, you HIRE A FREAKING WINNER!

So, I say we all owe DD an apology………he is exactly the kind of coach he was when we hired him. You can’t blame him for that.

Thanks Hamilton.
 
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Dooley was a "hoping to find the diamond in the rough" hire. With that said I still like Dooley.
 
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CDD and Co. have won every game they were supposed to win. I know we as Vol fans(especially those of us over the age of 30) have come to expect much more out of our team, but we ARE young and no we are not really that experienced. We have freshmen linebackers and a sophomore OL for Gods sake. Yes, the team looked out of sync tonight. That happens. It happens to the best of them. I remember a long drive home the night of November 9th, 1996. I remember December 8th, 2001, Nov. 19th, 2005, and Nov. 8th, 2008. These were all games we were supposed to win and didn't and a couple of them were embarrasing losses. At least we are winning the ones we are supposed to. It will get better. We are improving, but if this loss hurt everyone this bad, you all may want to crawl under a rock for the next two or three games because it's gonna get worse before it gets better.
 
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Who, praytell, would have been a better option AND would have taken the job?
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We will see... Top 10 recruiting classes are looking to be a thing we can expect every year. If that doesn't turn into a top 10 team year in and year out, then we need to do something about it...

Next thread.
 
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Dooley is right for the job. Did you watch the same game as everyone else? It will take Dooley another two years of recruiting and time. He only really had one year of recruiting. The problem is when someone goes down we don't match up as well as we did before a first player gets hurt. As we get deeper we get better. GO VOLS.
 
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manfromtn said:
CDD and Co. have won every game they were supposed to win. I know we as Vol fans(especially those of us over the age of 30) have come to expect much more out of our team, but we ARE young and no we are not really that experienced. We have freshmen linebackers and a sophomore OL for Gods sake. Yes, the team looked out of sync tonight. That happens. It happens to the best of them. I remember a long drive home the night of November 9th, 1996. I remember December 8th, 2001, Nov. 19th, 2005, and Nov. 8th, 2008. These were all games we were supposed to win and didn't and a couple of them were embarrasing losses. At least we are winning the ones we are supposed to. It will get better. We are improving, but if this loss hurt everyone this bad, you all may want to crawl under a rock for the next two or three games because it's gonna get worse before it gets better.
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On Oct. 30 it will 29 days since we scored two touchdowns in a game.

LSU and BAMA are going to wreck the team that stepped out there unprepared, unemotional, and flat tonight.
 
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Vols5150 said:
You get mediocre results.
I don’t blame Dooley. He is what he is. If you’re looking for someone to blame, blame Hamilton.

Hamilton single-handedly set this program back a decade. His first mistake was hiring a scumbag to run the program. And for all LK apologists who, even to this day defend the hire, you too are part of the problem. You need look no further than his results…….this looser has taken USC (an elite program loaded with talent) and turned them into a middle-of –the-back PAC12 team. Not only is he a bad coach, he even sucks as a human being. Nice job there, Hammy.

Then MH turns around after that debacle, and what “brilliant” move does he make? He hires an average (at best) coach to go up against the likes of Saban, Meyer, Petrino, etc. I mean, really? DD from LA Tech? I, like many, tried to be positive. But the cold, hard truth is that we will never compete with the big dogs in this conference until we get a winner in the HC position. It’s that simple. You don’t take a gamble, you don’t settle, you HIRE A FREAKING WINNER!

So, I say we all owe DD an apology………he is exactly the kind of coach he was when we hired him. You can’t blame him for that.

Thanks Hamilton.
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If hiring a winner was that easy, everyone would do it. Winning coaches aren't easy to come by and aren't always ready to jump ship for a rebuilding job. DD is a good coach and will probably build a decent program for some school. Don't know if UT will have the patience for him, but someone will.
 
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JJsnyder said:
Dooley is right for the job.
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And you're basing this on what exactly? Again, I don't hate DD, I actually think he is a good man. But he will never,ever be able to compete with the top coaches in this conference. He may be able to compete for the crumbs off their table, but thats as far as it goes. And that's just the hard, cold reality.
 
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Yeah, it's hard to hate on Dooley. He is a nice person and nothing would make me happier than seeing the man succeed. But I just don't have any hope for him to win here anymore. There's just no progress, you know? A year and a half in and we have kickers missing extra points, games where we have -19 rushing yards, time management is still an issue...I mean how long can we keep leaning on the young player schtick? Shouldn't they start improving as the year goes on or something? Anything? That's all I really want right now, glimpses of progress. The idea that if we keep at it at some hypothetical point in the future we will be good. I had that for a while when I first saw Bray. But beyond that...nothing. And now that Bray is hurt...what else is there? I mean Georgia is a mediocre team, there's not really any reason we shouldn't be able to at least keep it close with them. I actually would've been somewhat OK with that, just keeping it close. But we didn't, we got stomped at home, again.

I actually want him to stay for another two years at least, I think he's doing a good job of killing that thug image we had built up the past few years and some stability would be good for the program and the university. But I'm officially expecting nothing better than a 6-6 record the rest of his tenure and I fully expect him gone by the start of the 2014 season. God speed Dooley, you've got a few years still to turn it around. Hell, look at all the people around here who still believe in you. I doubt the I'll still be seeing as many of them around next year though.
 
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Vols5150 said:
And you're basing this on what exactly? Again, I don't hate DD, I actually think he is a good man. But he will never,ever be able to compete with the top coaches in this conference. He may be able to compete for the crumbs off their table, but thats as far as it goes. And that's just the hard, cold reality.
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Don't we just love assumptions?
 
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Vols5150 said:
And you're basing this on what exactly? Again, I don't hate DD, I actually think he is a good man. But he will never,ever be able to compete with the top coaches in this conference. He may be able to compete for the crumbs off their table, but thats as far as it goes. And that's just the hard, cold reality.
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This is about how I feel.....
 
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Dooley will leave the program better than he found it. That's the bottom line.
 
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manfromtn said:
CDD and Co. have won every game they were supposed to win. I know we as Vol fans(especially those of us over the age of 30) have come to expect much more out of our team, but we ARE young and no we are not really that experienced. We have freshmen linebackers and a sophomore OL for Gods sake. Yes, the team looked out of sync tonight. That happens. It happens to the best of them. I remember a long drive home the night of November 9th, 1996. I remember December 8th, 2001, Nov. 19th, 2005, and Nov. 8th, 2008. These were all games we were supposed to win and didn't and a couple of them were embarrasing losses. At least we are winning the ones we are supposed to. It will get better. We are improving, but if this loss hurt everyone this bad, you all may want to crawl under a rock for the next two or three games because it's gonna get worse before it gets better.
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problem is,we are not getting better.

we got beat by a young ga team not any differant than what we fielded and by a coach on the hottest of seats for the last 3 years or so..
 
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UTCVol said:
Dooley will leave the program better than he found it. That's the bottom line.
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No doubt but I fear that will amount to little more than a moral victory. And I do mean moral victory in the strictest sense of the word as in, "Well, at least our players aren't robbing gas stations anymore." Whether that will actually translate into wins is another matter entirely but I think Dooley will be able to look back on this one day and say he did good by these kids and this university, if in a more subtle way than we would have liked.
 
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