? When we hired Pruitt in 2017

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wmcovol said:
He struggled “hiring people”. The paragraph was about hiring people. His overall record was outstanding but his weakness was hiring top assistants. Both Cutcliffe & Chavis were Majors hires. Fulmer hired Sanders & Clawson. That ended up being what got him fired.
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Sanders was already there. Player that hung around and then had great things open up for him.
 
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LordBolton said:
I find it hard to agree here. Pruitt did one thing right, he brought in Hendon Hooker. Heupel recruited over Hooker with Milton and would have ridden him right off the cliff. If Heup had his way on that one and Milton never got hurt, he would have had about a 500 record and been shown the door at the end of last season. His system would have been a laughing stock because of a pitiful completion rate as Bazooka Joe tossed souvenir game balls into the stands every other attempt.
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When he didn't have Hooker in 2023, he went 9-4 and won the citrus bowl. I think your assumption that he cannot win without a Pruitt player is incorrect. He has another QB not recurited by Pruitt this last season and won 10 games.
 
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#1fulmerite said:
Sanders was already there. Player that hung around and then had great things open up for him.
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He was a grad asst I believe when Fulmer got the job. I was speaking mainly of RS being hired as OC. He did have a great NC game replacing Cut but he quickly feel off a couple years later.
 
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fossilfiction said:
When he didn't have Hooker in 2023, he went 9-4 and won the citrus bowl. I think your assumption that he cannot win without a Pruitt player is incorrect. He has another QB not recurited by Pruitt this last season and won 10 games.
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Pruitt admitted he never recruited Hooker. Hooker just showed up & they took him. Pruitt said in 2022 that he never met Hooker.
 
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wmcovol said:
He was a grad asst I believe when Fulmer got the job. I was speaking mainly of RS being hired as OC. He did have a great NC game replacing Cut but he quickly feel off a couple years later.
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You know, I did have a theory that CPF let the reins off of him during that championship game but, later on, pulled back. Seems before Sanders was ran off he stated Fulmer would override some of his calls.
 
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LordBolton said:
I find it hard to agree here. Pruitt did one thing right, he brought in Hendon Hooker. Heupel recruited over Hooker with Milton and would have ridden him right off the cliff. If Heup had his way on that one and Milton never got hurt, he would have had about a 500 record and been shown the door at the end of last season. His system would have been a laughing stock because of a pitiful completion rate as Bazooka Joe tossed souvenir game balls into the stands every other attempt.
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I find ^ easy to disagree
 
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Graham and Weinke were instrumental in Hooker’s decision to commit to Tennessee. Though Pruitt was fired 11 days after Hooker’s commitment, his family encouraged him to stay committed and compete for the starting job.
 
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#1fulmerite said:
You know, I did have a theory that CPF let the reins off of him during that championship game but, later on, pulled back. Seems before Sanders was ran off he stated Fulmer would override some of his calls.
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I can’t address if that occurred or not but I did see a lot of sloppy play (fumbled snaps vs Fla in the rain, WRs failing to line up properly, RBs fumbling at critical times, etc) that cost games & was the responsibility of the OC.
 
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wmcovol said:
I can’t address if that occurred or not but I did see a lot of sloppy play (fumbled snaps vs Fla in the rain, WRs failing to line up properly, RBs fumbling at critical times, etc) that cost games & was the responsibility of the OC.
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Yeah, I remember those too. That 2002 game against Florida where Clausen fumbled twice on the one or two yard line comes to mind. Fulmer let the interior O’line coach go after the season. Then, we had a kid named Yancey who probably should have been a starter at RB riding the bench. I remember that tid bit of drama. You have to add in how our single season two 1K yard rushers always ran to get tackled. That was when Trooper was the RB coach.

Like him or not, Fulmer did have faults. Cutcliff commented when he came back how discipline was lacking and, I attribute some if not all of that to Fulmer not trusting some coaches like he did Chavis and Cutt. Therefore, micromanaging came into play.

The only thing I have against Fulmer was how he used Sanders for the scape goat and didn’t defend him.
 
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LegionnaireOfTheMiserable said:
It’s way too early to mention Kim Caldwell in the same breath as Fulmer. Majors, Wyatt, and Dickey all fell short of what Fulmer did. Dickey even threw a game here. Heupel has done nothing compared to what Fulmer did.
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What? Heupel has done something Fulmer didn't do. He took over a joke of a program and finished in the top 5 in his 3rd year.
 
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bigorangepoppa said:
I have walled that fiasco off in my memory. I actually went to 2-3 games while he was coach. I was there the day he kicked the white board during the Kentucky game.
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Worst kick in the history of the game of football. A feather could have done that board more damage
 
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#1fulmerite said:
Yeah, I remember those too. That 2002 game against Florida where Clausen fumbled twice on the one or two yard line comes to mind. Fulmer let the interior O’line coach go after the season. Then, we had a kid named Yancey who probably should have been a starter at RB riding the bench. I remember that tid bit of drama. You have to add in how our single season two 1K yard rushers always ran to get tackled. That was when Trooper was the RB coach.

Like him or not, Fulmer did have faults. Cutcliff commented when he came back how discipline was lacking and, I attribute some if not all of that to Fulmer not trusting some coaches like he did Chavis and Cutt. Therefore, micromanaging came into play.

The only thing I have against Fulmer was how he used Sanders for the scape goat and didn’t defend him.
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Yaney starting RB? The walk on? Wasn't he on the same roster with Riggs, Houston and Davis? My memory has kind of clogged some of those years together, but I don't ever remember anyone ever claiming Yancey should ever even sniff the starting lineup.
 
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perico said:
Yaney starting RB? The walk on? Wasn't he on the same roster with Riggs, Houston and Davis? My memory has kind of clogged some of those years together, but I don't ever remember anyone ever claiming Yancey should ever even sniff the starting lineup.
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Yes, that was him. A true walk-on that had an incredible fall camp to start the season. When interviewed about him, ole Trooper Taylor said he is (was) good enough to be the starter or should be the starter. That’s with Houston, Riggs and the other two highly ‘01 recruited backs. Fulmer had to downplay and spin it the next day.

That ‘01 class of RB’s was a bust and so was Riggs. I’ve never seen so many runs where running backs literally ran to get tackled. It was so evident in the SECG and the bowl game.
 
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One of the amazingly bad things Pruitt did was take a great offensive mind (Chaney), a guy that got multiple QBs drafted...a guy that got 47 TDs out of Nate Peterman and completely handcuffed him.
 
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The three finalists are proof Judas Brudus had no idea what the hell he was doing—which is no shocker to anyone that closely followed Tennessee athletics.

Fulmer as a head coach was nothing more than what David Cutcluffe and John Chavis provided him. He knows it and so do the rest of us.
 
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swampfoxfan said:
I disliked the Pruitt and Dooley hires, dooley came with a losing record at a scrub level team.
I was dead wrong on Jones, thought he had potential.

Finally my hopes were realized with Coach JH, a winning coach from a small school that gave big boys bloody noses. When he started his tenure by dividing up players for a game of dodge ball I knew we had a winner.
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On paper Butch looked like a great up-and-coming Head Coach. His record was good. He won at places where it is challenging to win.

Later, it was a trope he followed Brian Kelly's coattails everywhere.
I thought Butch looked like he might grow into the job.
I later figured Bajakian and Jancek were good coaches.
 
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germantown902 said:
Didn’t Fulmer or the University bring in Kevin Steele after firing Pruitt to keep the program afloat? I think he served around 10 days as interim head coach and made about $900k for his efforts.
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Fulmer was pretty much planning to reassume the reins, probably his plan all along with the Cornbread hire. Fortunately, he was thwarted.
 
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stevenrich2003 said:
I suppose that everything happens for a reason, but dang, the CJP years were just bad... Really bad.
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I didn't have real high hopes and those went downhill fast when his first interviews were complaining about the poor team members he inherited.
But it did lead us to JH, who opened his tenure by playing dodge ball and started a culture.
 
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