When was the last big conference bubble team to win the NIT

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I'll be honest I didn't look it up but if you're on the bubble and don't seem to make it to the dance your season is
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Bubble teams from major conferences win it almost every year.

2012 - Stanford
2009 - Penn State
2008 - Ohio State
2007 - West Virginia
2006 - South Carolina
2005 - South Carolina
2004 - Michigan
2003 - St. Johns
2002 - Memphis
2000 - Wake Forest
1999 - California
1998 - Minnesota
1997 - Michigan
1996 - Nebraska
1995 - Virginia Tech
1994 - Villanova
1993 - Minnesota
1992 - Virginia
1991 - Stanford
1990 - Vanderbilt
 
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Good job thank you for crushing these weak arguments from the apologist for this teams lack of effort when it mattered.
 
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G8R8U2 said:
Bubble teams from major conferences win it almost every year.

2012 - Stanford
2009 - Penn State
2008 - Ohio State
2007 - West Virginia
2006 - South Carolina
2005 - South Carolina
2004 - Michigan
2003 - St. Johns
2002 - Memphis
2000 - Wake Forest
1999 - California
1998 - Minnesota
1997 - Michigan
1996 - Nebraska
1995 - Virginia Tech
1994 - Villanova
1993 - Minnesota
1992 - Virginia
1991 - Stanford
1990 - Vanderbilt
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I bet all of those teams are proud of that banner flying in their arenas...
 
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South Carolina winning it back-to-back really did wonders for the hoops program. Maybe some of the Martin bashers should become USCjr fans. They could use a few.
 
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Oh, and Buzz Peterson took his Tulsa team to the NIT title right before he came on board at UT. So, that shows you that great coaches do win the NIT.
 
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OrangeBalls said:
South Carolina winning it back-to-back really did wonders for the hoops program. Maybe some of the Martin bashers should become USCjr fans. They could use a few.
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I fail to see how that absolves anyone from going out and laying a juicy turd against an inferior squad.
 
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It is one thing for a coach with a proven track record of success in the NCAA tournament to blow off the NIT and look down on it as below him. Quite another for a guy who has never taken a team to the NCAA tournament to do so.
 
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Toujours Pret said:
I fail to see how that absolves anyone from going out and laying a juicy turd against an inferior squad.
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It doesn't, but let's not act like winning or losing in the NIT means future success or failure for a coach or program. It doesn't. If it did, Buzz Peterson would still be our coach.
 
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OrangeUTopia said:
What it comes down to is some teams have pride and some don't.
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That's essentially what it boils down to.

All those teams who won the NIT may not get all the glory of winning a NC; but what they CAN say is they represented their school and program with pride, regardless of opponent.

You may not always win the biggest games or go to the premier tourneys; but proving that the name on the front of the jersey is more important than the name on the back shows character.
 
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G8R8U2 said:
Bubble teams from major conferences win it almost every year.

2012 - Stanford
2009 - Penn State
2008 - Ohio State
2007 - West Virginia
2006 - South Carolina
2005 - South Carolina
2004 - Michigan
2003 - St. Johns
2002 - Memphis
2000 - Wake Forest
1999 - California
1998 - Minnesota
1997 - Michigan
1996 - Nebraska
1995 - Virginia Tech
1994 - Villanova
1993 - Minnesota
1992 - Virginia
1991 - Stanford
1990 - Vanderbilt
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I think you just posted the power conference winners. Some of those teams were not bubble teams for the NCAAT. Ohio State in 2008 was 19-13. I can tell you that those South Carolina teams were not on the bubble. 15-13 in 2005, and 18-15 (6-10 in conference) in 2006. In 2003, St. John's was 16-13 (7-9 in conference). The NIT has actually been more exclusive in the last few years. Don't just assume.
 
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G8R8U2 said:
Bubble teams from major conferences win it almost every year.

2012 - Stanford
2009 - Penn State
2008 - Ohio State
2007 - West Virginia
2006 - South Carolina
2005 - South Carolina
2004 - Michigan
2003 - St. Johns
2002 - Memphis
2000 - Wake Forest
1999 - California
1998 - Minnesota
1997 - Michigan
1996 - Nebraska
1995 - Virginia Tech
1994 - Villanova
1993 - Minnesota
1992 - Virginia
1991 - Stanford
1990 - Vanderbilt
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hold on a minute. I see a lot of teams on that list that were most definitely NOT bubble teams.
 
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VolGee4 said:
I think you just posted the power conference winners. Some of those teams were not bubble teams for the NCAAT. Ohio State in 2008 was 19-13. I can tell you that those South Carolina teams were not on the bubble. 15-13 in 2005, and 18-15 (6-10 in conference) in 2006. In 2003, St. John's was 16-13 (7-9 in conference). The NIT has actually been more exclusive in the last few years. Don't just assume.
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GAVol said:
hold on a minute. I see a lot of teams on that list that were most definitely NOT bubble teams.
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Being a bubble team is somehow relevant?

The fact that a team didn't quite make the NCAA's puts them at some kind of disadvantage, and gives them an excuse or right to basically throw a game?

Sorry, but if a kid was given a scholarship to a major DI program, he has an obligation to represent it well no matter where he sports the jersey... like I said, the name on the front is more important than the name on the back.

And if your kids don't get up for a game in their own arena, regardless of opponent, something's wrong with them AND their coach. That goes for any school and team.

Jimmy Dykes said during UK's loss that if UK's players can't get up for this game, if for no other reason than the name on the front of the jersey, they don't belong at UK anyway... and virtually every UK fan over at Rupp Rafters agreed wholeheartedly.

Honestly, players may even unknowingly or inadvertantly shoot themselves in the foot. Not caring about the game and not trying hard might come back to bite them.

Can you imagine a GM, coach, or scout pulling up video of this game in a future interview, and saying, "Doesn't look like you or your teammates tried very hard in this one. Is this the kind of commitment and work ethic we can expect if you played for our franchise?".

They don't always just look at a player's best games or his highlight vid; a lot of them like to see what a kid's made of by also looking at his worst games.
 
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G8R8U2 said:
Being a bubble team is somehow relevant?

The fact that a team didn't quite make the NCAA's puts them at some kind of disadvantage, and gives them an excuse or right to basically throw a game?

Sorry, but if a kid was given a scholarship to a major DI program, he has an obligation to represent it well no matter where he sports the jersey... like I said, the name on the front is more important than the name on the back.

And if your kids don't get up for a game in their own arena, regardless of opponent, something's wrong with them AND their coach. That goes for any school and team.

Jimmy Dykes said during UK's loss that if UK's players can't get up for this game, if for no other reason than the name on the front of the jersey, they don't belong at UK anyway... and virtually every UK fan over at Rupp Rafters agreed wholeheartedly.

Honestly, players may even unknowingly or inadvertantly shoot themselves in the foot. Not caring about the game and not trying hard might come back to bite them.

Can you imagine a GM, coach, or scout pulling up video of this game in a future interview, and saying, "Doesn't look like you or your teammates tried very hard in this one. Is this the kind of commitment and work ethic we can expect if you played for our franchise?".

They don't always just look at a player's best games or his highlight vid; a lot of them like to see what a kid's made of by also looking at his worst games.
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Uhhh, well, I wasn't the one who started the thread and trying to make the point. The OP was trying to make the point or ask about bubble teams who got past their disappointment and won the NIT. The list that was given is factually incorrect.

Yes, I believe there probably is a correlation between being on the cusp of an NCAAT bid and playing poorly in the NIT. I didn't say anything about it being good, ok, or justifiable. But I understand why.
 
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VolsSportsFan said:
Win the NIT, lose in the first round, pretty much the same result, because nobody cares.
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I care, admit it it would have been nice to continue to rub UK's face in it if we would have continued to win. But we sucked also. So yes I care, I care about effort and team and school pride. I believe most fans care or why bother being on this site.
 
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utvolkyle06 said:
I care, admit it it would have been nice to continue to rub UK's face in it if we would have continued to win. But we sucked also. So yes I care, I care about effort and team and school pride. I believe most fans care or why bother being on this site.
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Well only 4K of our fans showed up, so obviously we don't care so much.
 
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VolsSportsFan said:
Well only 4K of our fans showed up, so obviously we don't care so much.
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People just want another excuse to cut down Cuonzo Martin and this team. If we had won, either that game or the whole damn thing, you wouldn't hear a peep out of these people.
 
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utfan72408 said:
People just want another excuse to cut down Cuonzo Martin and this team. If we had won, either that game or the whole damn thing, you wouldn't hear a peep out of these people.
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Ain't that the truth. Where were all these posters during our late run?
 
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