What's wrong with our Kicking game?

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I love that we beat the chickens. I love how we beat them. The big concern I have out of that game is the fact that they kicked it into or through the endzone on kickoffs every time. And we couldn't get to the endzone on any kicks. I'm sure that when recruiting the coaches don't go out and say "Hey, he can't reach the endzone but he's got a great attitude." So is this coaching? I'm not sure what gives but we are going to be in trouble if we keep giving the other teams those types of chances while not getting them for ourselves.
 
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VolsnRavens said:
Mods, merge if needed.

I love that we beat the chickens. I love how we beat them. The big concern I have out of that game is the fact that they kicked it into or through the endzone on kickoffs every time. And we couldn't get to the endzone on any kicks. I'm sure that when recruiting the coaches don't go out and say "Hey, he can't reach the endzone but he's got a great attitude." So is this coaching? I'm not sure what gives but we are going to be in trouble if we keep giving the other teams those types of chances while not getting them for ourselves.
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Conisdering most of the time our opponents start 20>, i don't see a problem with it.

As far as field goals go at USCjr, 20mph gusting winds isn't a field goal kickers friend.
 
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VolsnRavens said:
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I love that we beat the chickens. I love how we beat them. The big concern I have out of that game is the fact that they kicked it into or through the endzone on kickoffs every time. And we couldn't get to the endzone on any kicks. I'm sure that when recruiting the coaches don't go out and say "Hey, he can't reach the endzone but he's got a great attitude." So is this coaching? I'm not sure what gives but we are going to be in trouble if we keep giving the other teams those types of chances while not getting them for ourselves.
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You've kept up the rest of the season? Not a problem...on why Medley didn't boom them into the endzone every time last week? :stinker2:
 
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Aaron Medley is a freshman and has James Wilhoit as his position coach, I think all will be fine
 
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Touch backs that go into the end zone automatically come out to the 25 yard line. Thus, if we kick it short and our special teams can create a stop prior to the 25 yard line, we win that field position battle. It's not always a bad thing that we don't kick it into the end zone. The only time I would ever feel like it would be necessary to kick it into the end zone for a touch back attempt every single time is if the returning team has two absolutely lethal kick returners set to return the kick. At that point it may be a safe bet. Otherwise, I like what we're doing and how we are doing it.
 
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Butch was claiming before the season that Medley was hitting the brick wall in practice. I think he is kicking it high and a little short to force a return because we are confident that the coverage team is going to make a tackle before the 25, which they are doing pretty well.
 
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Yeah I noticed he blew it up vs Chatt.

But with that being said IDK if it never reaches past the 10 if he Mr Clutch.
 
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MSCE09 said:
Butch was claiming before the season that Medley was hitting the brick wall in practice. I think he is kicking it high and a little short to force a return because we are confident that the coverage team is going to make a tackle before the 25, which they are doing pretty well.
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This is actually a salient point. If your coverage is great and you can pin them back at the 15 or 20, why kick it so they automatically start at the 25?
 
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supersmo18 said:
Touch backs that go into the end zone automatically come out to the 25 yard line. Thus, if we kick it short and hours vessel teams can you create a stop prior to the 25 yard line we win that field position battle. It's not always a bad thing that we don't kick it into the end zone. The only time I would ever feel like it would be necessary to kick it into the end zone for a touchback attempt every single time is if the returning team has two absolutely lethal kick returners set to return the kick. At that point it may be a safe bet. Otherwise, I like what we're doing and how we are doing it.
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Hope that was auto correct...
 
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agent|orange said:
This is actually a salient point. If your coverage is great and you can pin them back at the 15 or 20, why kick it so they automatically start at the 25?
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The difference between the 20-25 is negligible. As someone above mentioned, if the opponent has very good returners, the risk (taking it to the house) isn't worth the reward (5-10 yards).
 
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I can appreciate the responses. Though I don't understand why some have to respond like jerks about it. It was just a post on what I had noticed. I guess it could be nerves of a freshman. I didn't think about the coverage aspect of if we are stopping them before the 25 then why kick it in the endzone. Maybe game planning? But some teams have some returners that could get way past the 25. So again. just a talking point. I'm not saying the sky is falling. If you check my posts, you'll see I'm one of the usual sunshine pumpers. Of all of the good in that game. It was the one aspect of that game that I noticed that made me think. And again, I appreciate the insight others on here have but sheesh. Lighten up Francis.
 
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I thought I had read somewhere that on average, our opponents are starting near the 15 yard-line on our knockoffs. I'll take that all season. I trust our special teams.
 
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I'm not even worried about Medley, he'll be great. I just wish Darr could get his leg in order. Man, you don't know whether it'll be a 50 yarder or a 18 yard shank. :dunno:

GO VOLS!
 
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Because we have AJ Johnson and Co going down and destroying kick returners. Its fun to watch, and we would be robbed of it if we kicked deep for touchbacks
 
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three straight 5-7 seasons, and we are struggling to become bowl eligible, Our kicking game is not a concern
 
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VolsnRavens said:
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I love that we beat the chickens. I love how we beat them. The big concern I have out of that game is the fact that they kicked it into or through the endzone on kickoffs every time. And we couldn't get to the endzone on any kicks. I'm sure that when recruiting the coaches don't go out and say "Hey, he can't reach the endzone but he's got a great attitude." So is this coaching? I'm not sure what gives but we are going to be in trouble if we keep giving the other teams those types of chances while not getting them for ourselves.
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And we started on the 25 each time.
 
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In response to your question it is the strategy the coaching staff has taken. He can put it through the end zone but the coaches have him placing it in certain spots because our coverage has been so good. I believe the opponents average starting spot is inside the 25 so the strategy so far has worked. It is risky as one knows if someone takes it to the house on us, then the question comes up, Why not just put it in the end zone. So far , so good. May it continue.
 
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Well like everyone else has said the reason is on purpose. He can kick it through the back if he tries.

USCe never even got past the 20 on returns. We started at the 25 everytime.
 
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yep. and he is kicking into a corner to narrow the field for our coverage squad. The returner can only go 2 directions instead of three so its limits the return teams ability to establish a "wall" of blockers
 
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