What's Bru-ing?

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LegionnaireOfTheMiserable said:
HIPAA doesn’t apply to football coaches or the media. It applies to people who work in the medical field or who work for a medical facility. It doesn’t stop anyone from asking about someone’s health information, and it doesn’t keep anyone outside of the medical field from talking about someone’s health information. I’m free to ask you about your health info. If a head coach finds out a player had a broken ankle, the head coach can tell media if he so chooses.

Also it’s not HIPPA, so I kinda doubt you even understand what you’re talking about, even if you were subject to the regulations.
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After looking it up you are correct. Having followed them for years I thought it applied outside of the medical field but upon reflection that would be silly. How would it be enforced lol?
 
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Sudden Impact said:
Your age and wisdom are showing. Your points are valid, but the NFL and Analysis regarding the Medical issues are not. Bru had to disclose his health status to the NFL and he was evaluated by the NFL as well. Bru McCoy did not work out at the combine or at Tennessee Pro day. Why? NFL cannot disclose this reason if it is Medically related nor can the media if Bru does not sign a HIPAA waiver to do so. Time will tell but it is a Moot point at this moment.
8th best WR on UDFA list skipped over. Go figure.
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I have to lol at your claim that the media can’t say a guy didn’t work out at the combine due to an injury unless he signs a HIPAA waiver. Media can absolutely reveal that.

Just look at Chris Lofton’s cancer diagnosis. Bruce Pearl could have legally revealed it, but Lofton didn’t want it revealed. Chris Low could have legally revealed it before Lofton wanted it revealed, but he chose not to out of respect for Lofton. Absolutely nobody was barred from revealing it by HIPAA except for the doctors. I assure you that if Bru McCoy’s ankle was sore at the combine, people can reveal that as well. You guys get these crazy notions in your head that just aren’t based in reality.
 
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BigBadVol said:
After looking it up you are correct. Having followed them for years I thought it applied outside of the medical field but upon reflection that would be silly. How would it be enforced lol?
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It’s sheer lunacy that people can be so wrong and still insist they are correct to the point of mocking or demeaning someone on a matter of fact, not opinion. Especially when they could just look it up like you did.
 
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LegionnaireOfTheMiserable said:
It’s sheer lunacy that people can be so wrong and still insist they are correct to the point of mocking or demeaning someone on a matter of fact, not opinion. Especially when they could just look it up like you did.
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Pot calling Kettle Black. Bru still has to sign a disclosure statement. If not, it would have been addressed by the Media. What's more, if he was drafted and injured how can compensation be definitively determined? It is all about the $$$$$. NFL teams were not willing to take the risk base on the information he had to disclose for him to be hired or drafted or to participate in the Combine and Pro Day.
 
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35 WRs UDFA leftovers. Bru was ranked #8 of that crew. Of those 35, a total of 31 were signed by NFL teams. Bru was one of the 4 that was not. Hard to explain. No Combine or Pro day. Not hard to assume. If HIPAA was not in play it is hard to explain why he was not drafted as a free Agent. If HIPPA was in play it is easy to explain why it was not openly stated.
 
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He said during his NFL combine interview that he injuried his hamstring during the senior bowl which caused him to sit out the nfl combine workout and tennessee pro day. Im not sure why he hasn't signed anywhere though or if its related to injury as he seemed pretty confident it wasn't major.
 
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LegionnaireOfTheMiserable said:
That’s just not how HIPAA works. It’s astounding how many people have no clue how HIPAA works and yet confidently talk about it.

He will 25 years old before his rookie season would start, is not very athletic for a receiver, has a rough injury history, had a DV allegation, and had fewer than 1600 yards and 10 TDs in his college career, despite playing until he was 24. He was never really on NFL radars since he has so many things working against him. Had some great moments at UT but that doesn’t guarantee a NFL career.
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What's astounding is how you are the least likeable poster on this board. You berate people for being condescending then turn around and do the exact same thing. This has to be a schtick, no way you're like this in real life.
 
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LowKey said:
Anyone else curious why Bru hasn't signed with a team yet?
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Sadly, it doesn’t seem like much is brewing for Bru. That guy was probably the best blocking WR we have had since I can remember, and has fairly sure hands and yards after a lot of contact. I still wonder if should have been converted to a tight end if his frame could have handled the additional weight. Perhaps too late to try that in the NFL. He was a transfer but a VFL IMO.
 
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Sudden Impact said:
Pot calling Kettle Black. Bru still has to sign a disclosure statement. If not, it would have been addressed by the Media. What's more, if he was drafted and injured how can compensation be definitively determined? It is all about the $$$$$. NFL teams were not willing to take the risk base on the information he had to disclose for him to be hired or drafted or to participate in the Combine and Pro Day.
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Dude, no. None of this is true. From the first sentence to the last, every word is a crock of shít. Last year, a guy went in the first round after previously medically retiring. If NFL teams were so terrified of liability, they’d never let a guy like that enter the draft, let alone go in the 1st. They let Damar Hamlin come back and play again. Trey Smith got drafted and now has gotten a huge contract, despite the fact he has a potentially deadly issue that could flare up at any time. NFL teams aren’t scared to let a guy go through drills at a pro day because he broke an Ankle a year and a half ago. The NFL isn’t liable for any of that.

Compensation if he got hurt would be determined based on the guarantees in his contract, like every other single player in the league. I promise you that the NFL is not avoiding Bru McCoy over liability issues with a bad ankle, given many of the risks with guys with much more serious issues that get drafted and play for a long time. and that HIPAA does not apply to this situation.
 
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Jaxon_Vol2017 said:
What's astounding is how you are the least likeable poster on this board. You berate people for being condescending then turn around and do the exact same thing. This has to be a schtick, no way you're like this in real life.
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I berate people for acting like a jackass when they are factually wrong. You want to act like one when you’re right about a matter of fact, then be my guest. But people getting butthurt and making up wild claims because I hurt their feelings by contradicting their preferred narrative, then yeah, I feel that the sense of superiority they project in that case is a little ridiculous and deserves to be called out.
 
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With regards to the whole HIPAA thing... While HIPAA is the applicable rule for medical records, FERPA is the applicable rule for student records. Care provided by UT's student health center or the athletic department's physicians as services provided to a student fall under the category of student records. Depending on who's got what problem and who they saw for it, university employees may or may not be in a position to talk about it depending on which is the relevant standard. University employees have to maintain the confidentiality of FERPA-protected records.

That said, I hope Bru lands somewhere. I put him up there with Jauan Jennings as far as being someone who's out there doing work even when the ball's not coming to him.
 
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Sudden Impact said:
35 WRs UDFA leftovers. Bru was ranked #8 of that crew. Of those 35, a total of 31 were signed by NFL teams. Bru was one of the 4 that was not. Hard to explain. No Combine or Pro day. Not hard to assume. If HIPAA was not in play it is hard to explain why he was not drafted as a free Agent. If HIPPA was in play it is easy to explain why it was not openly stated.
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Shedeur Sanders was “ranked” as the number 2 quarterback by the people who do these rankings. It’s exceedingly likely that NFL teams just don’t rank Bru as highly as whoever did this ranking you cited. From production to health to age to even an alleged off field issue, to just the fact that he didn’t work out for any teams, there are plenty of reasons why a team might not take Bru. HIPAA 100% isn’t one of them. These teams are not in the business of coming out and saying why they didn’t sign a specific UDFA, so get the HIPAA stuff out of your head. HIPAA should never come up on this board because it has never once applied to any situation where people bring it up.
 
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ArmchairQB said:
With regards to the whole HIPAA thing... While HIPAA is the applicable rule for medical records, FERPA is the applicable rule for student records. Care provided by UT's student health center or the athletic department's physicians as services provided to a student fall under the category of student records. Depending on who's got what problem and who they saw for it, university employees may or may not be in a position to talk about it depending on which is the relevant standard. University employees have to maintain the confidentiality of FERPA-protected records.

That said, I hope Bru lands somewhere. I put him up there with Jauan Jennings as far as being someone who's out there doing work even when the ball's not coming to him.
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Even FERPA doesn’t apply because if it did, the SEC couldn’t make teams give an injury report. Every coach would tell their guys not to sign a waiver if they could keep injury status a complete secret by doing so. If a NFL called the university asking for Bru’s transcripts, then FERPA could apply. But in regards to injuries, it doesn’t. And neither does HIPAA.
 
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vegasvolfan said:
Sadly, it doesn’t seem like much is brewing for Bru. That guy was probably the best blocking WR we have had since I can remember, and has fairly sure hands and yards after a lot of contact. I still wonder if should have been converted to a tight end if his frame could have handled the additional weight. Perhaps too late to try that in the NFL. He was a transfer but a VFL IMO.
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Not sure if he has any eligibility left to transfer.
 
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Before his injury, I mumbled something on a thread here about how much I felt that Bru was a true NFL talent. For his sake, I really hope someone picks him up for a practice squad and that he excels enough to get picked up by a team that has faith in him. (hint - any Packers management reading this thread? Hmmmm????!!)
 
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LegionnaireOfTheMiserable said:
That’s just not how HIPAA works. It’s astounding how many people have no clue how HIPAA works and yet confidently talk about it.

He will 25 years old before his rookie season would start, is not very athletic for a receiver, has a rough injury history, had a DV allegation, and had fewer than 1600 yards and 10 TDs in his college career, despite playing until he was 24. He was never really on NFL radars since he has so many things working against him. Had some great moments at UT but that doesn’t guarantee a NFL career.
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Even more amazing is how many people just talk.
 
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LegionnaireOfTheMiserable said:
It’s sheer lunacy that people can be so wrong and still insist they are correct to the point of mocking or demeaning someone on a matter of fact, not opinion. Especially when they could just look it up like you did.
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Actually, you brought that on yourself by being such a condescending smart a** in your first reply on page 1. You actually had the choice to keep flipping pages, but you stopped and were instantly demeaning to someone else for no apparent reason.
 
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GVF said:
Actually, you brought that on yourself by being such a condescending smart a** in your first reply on page 1. You actually had the choice to keep flipping pages, but you stopped and were instantly demeaning to someone else for no apparent reason.
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I brought it on myself that someone would be this wrong and this insistent? No, not really.

Again, if someone wants to act like an ass to me, I’m okay with that. But at least be right about what you are saying, or do it on something that is a matter of opinion. don’t triple and quadruple down on something when you are dead wrong on a matter of fact.
 
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LegionnaireOfTheMiserable said:
I brought it on myself that someone would be this wrong and this insistent? No, not really.

Again, if someone wants to act like an ass to me, I’m okay with that. But at least be right about what you are saying, or do it on something that is a matter of opinion. don’t triple and quadruple down on something when you are dead wrong on a matter of fact.
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No, you brought it on yourself by being an a** from the get go. You didn't even have to open your mouth. Which means you made the conscious decision to be an a**. Not even accidentaly. You made the choice to belittle someone else. Which has nothing to do with presenting facts otherwise.
 
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GVF said:
No, you brought it on yourself by being an a** from the get go. You didn't even have to open your mouth. Which means you made the conscious decision to be an a**. Not even accidentaly. You made the choice to belittle someone else. Which has nothing to do with presenting facts otherwise.
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I’m sorry. If I had known the thread were going to go this way, I would have just tagged you to be an ass to you. I should have belittled you all along.
 
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GVF said:
Have at it Sir Superior.
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I think it’s very dumb that anyone would cite HIPAA as an excuse for anything football related. It started, to my knowledge, among dumb Vol fans who wanted to excuse Butch Jones for lying about injuries. Then in Covid you had idiots yelling about HIPAA at 16 year old hostesses who asked them to put on a mask. So now it’s entrenched in the dumbest among us to completely misuse a buzzword that most have no clue what it means.

Dumber than that, though, is GVB, who will actually die in a hill defending those who make such moronic claims.
 
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