what would dooley have accomplished?

[BAJAvol]

A lot of coaches would be successful with the talent we had in the 90's

 

[volfanatic74]

What a spoiled fan, Yea PF should have won the NC every year. yea it was time to go, and I believe we have our coach, but PF gave more to UT in one minute of his career, than you will give in your whole Life.:loco::loco::loco:

Categorize me any way you wish. Point me to where I said Fulmer should have won a NC every year. That's right I didn't. No one would be that ridiculous. No doubt Fulmer gave more to UT than I ever have or ever will. The point is 1) he got complacent with the position he helped UT attain and in doing so didn't evolve with the rest of the SEC and that complacency let the rest of the conference basically blow our doors off as they passed UT. 2) his fear of seeing UT try to keep up by replacing him with someone with the fire and desire to win kept him from bringing in those types of coaches.

Now I have a question for you: can you say that he really and truly "gave his all" FOR HIS ENTIRE HC CAREER if even one of my points/opinions above were true? I don't and I believe they are both true.

How can you truly give your all to a program when you knowingly let said program falter because of complacency and the fear of getting canned?

If the rest of the country's AD's believed your view, Fulmer would have at the least sniffed a hc job by now. But of course, don't let facts stand in your way.
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[Tux]

There wasn't a coach in the nation who could have fared any worse than Fulmer did with all of the talent that he had at his disposal.

Fulmer did less with more talent than any coach in the nation.

 

[rocklion]

I think I would rather give Dooley a few years, see if he assembles the same kind of talent we had in the 90s, then talk about "What if Dooley coached in the 90s?"

Up until then its a moot point because we have yet to see what Dooley can do with good talent. I'm liking what I've seen so far, but lets stand toe to toe with Georgia, Florida and Alabama a few times and then we'll see if we have a dang good coach.

 

[General Jack]

With Spurrier at UF operating an offense few in the SEC could stop or stall this side of Bill Oliver?

About the same.

Fulmer in the 1990s was a far different coach. More ambitious. More willing to work.
More open to adjusting his system and approach to win games.

Fulmer in his last years grew comfortable in his position. He tried to take the Houston Nutt Arkansas route and sell mediocrity as the standard Tennessee should aspire to. This wasn't the same man who took a green Heath Shuler down to Athens and beat a Georgia team loaded with NFL talent. He wasn't the same guy who changed his approach from 1997 to 1998 after watching his team take a physical beat-down from Nebraska.

Fulmer wanted us to be satisfied with 8-win seasons. Sexton sold Hammy on the concept. Problem was that Fulmer wasn't hungry enough to even reach that goal on a regular basis. He lost his edge and his commitment to Tennessee. Not everyone can be General Neyland or Tom Osborne and maintain focus. What happened to Fulmer also happened to Dye and Vince Dooley: a slow, steady decline.

I'm thankful for his time at Tennessee in general and 1997 and 1998 in particular. I don't think we should remember him for what he became, but rather for what he once was as a head coach.

That's about as well as I've seen it said, very good post.
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[WillisWG]

CPF's record is what it is...one of the best in our history. Could a better play or two been called to win another game or two? Maybe and with hindsight this is easy to say. But I'm not thinking about what this staff could have done with any of 90s teams, I'm thinking about what they're doing RIGHT now to get us back to winning 10-11-12 games.

 

[Crew]

I have an idea.

 

[duckman398686]

verdict is still out on dooley. i don't see how anyone could have absolutely made up their mind about him at this point.

 

[rockingchairvol]

I agree with most of this and know that CPF did a lot for UT and won a lot of games. He did the best job of picking an agent who got him that last contract....$175.00 per hours for a lot of months....Some day we will win a NC and I don't think it will be long. In my lifetime I hope....Auburn is playing for their second since 1957....man that is a long time.....Dooley will do well recruiting after this season he has had.