What Vol fans bought since 09

[TN_Transplant]

#2 LSU fired their coach for 27 losses in 16 years... a national championship winning coach... and we don't want him.

#3 Georgia fired their coach... with only 34 losses in 16 years, they fired their coach...

#5 Florida has lost only 39 in the same timespan, won SEC east last 2 years, fired their coach...

what does that tell you about our administration?

 

[DaUndergroundMan]

It's worse than mediocre. 56-53 is NFL mediocrity, not college mediocrity where there are (or should be) 4-6 automatic or near-automatic wins on the schedule for a program that at least thinks of itself as a top program.

Since 2009 only Kentucky and Vanderbilt have worse SEC records than Tennessee. They both have winning percentages of exactly .250 and ours is just above .300. That's worse than mediocre. That's bad, just barely above the bottom of the barrel.

And theres the second and more pertinent truth, crappy than the first truth. No, not mediocre, terrible.

Just above .300 sec winning percentage. Thats a slap, just like kentucky downplaying their victory calling us a former rival.

 

[rexgrove]

Wish I hadn't seen that


Damn, we've been a .500 club. That's embarrassing

Yep, that stings

 

[jbr82]

Maybe there should be a collective "I told you so" from those of us who didn't think Phil Fulmer's time had passed.

Certainly there were issues to be addressed ... by a mentor type AD not a worthless piece of trash like Hamilton.

Hamilton was a puppet and they say Currie worked hard to get rid of Fulmer. Boy he sure hasn't changed 😜

 

[jbr82]

#2 LSU fired their coach for 27 losses in 16 years... a national championship winning coach... and we don't want him.

#3 Georgia fired their coach... with only 34 losses in 16 years, they fired their coach...

#5 Florida has lost only 39 in the same timespan, won SEC east last 2 years, fired their coach...

what does that tell you about our administration?

Lol got to laugh to keep from crying

 

[LocoVol]

Can't make the SM game, but I have plans of going to the mizzu game.

I'm not pointing that out. That's a bad stat. Why would I advertise against the Vols? I leave trashing and bashing the Vols to fans of other teams.

I trust PM and PF to do what is best for UT.

They don't need my help by bringing up negative stats about what going on up there. I feel certain they are in touch with how Vol fans feel.

Boycotting the game ?

 

[Jeepkuntry]

I didn't need to see those numbers. Just my opinion, but we either get the right coach or the program is shot. We are becoming the laughing stock of the SEC. And it tarnishes our traditions.

 

[Cartervol]

It's been a rough ride. The attendance hasn't suffered much so the fans have enabled this to some degree. No need to change anything when you're raking in record profits. This fanbase deserves better than the gruel they've been served for a decade. The program has everything you want except a competent administration. They treat it like a business and have no emotional attachment to it. Most of them didn't go to UT anyway so it kind of makes sense.

 

[VolDomination]

hot damn we're not last!!!!!

It's a process.

 

[monk91384]

It's a process

 

[volmark]

When you turn a blind eye to coaching malpractice like fourth quarter collapses, no QB coach, no S&C coach, horrible in game decisions like clock management, chasing off five star players, lining up in the shotgun in red zone, not using Kamara, not using Kelly in red zone, forcing Dormady/Worley to run the HSO, multiple players regressing, hiring Olympic swim team managers to be your OC, etc. etc. etc., you're asking for that record.

Well said

 

[ftsandersvol]

This is what Haslam and his puppets have sold fans since Fulmer was let go after 16 yrs. Keep in mind TN is traditionally 2nd winningest team in the entire southeast. Here are the results up to this very day compared to the SEC.

1 Bammer 109-11
2 LSU 84-27
3 UGA 80-34
4 Auburn 75-36
5 Florida 72-39
6 S.C. 71-41
7 TX A&M 71-41
8 MS. ST. 67-44
9 Mizzo 66-45
10 Ark. 61-49
11 Ole Miss 57-52
12 UT 56-53
13 KY 45-62
14 Vandy 42-64

That's what happens when you let academia run your athletic department.

 

[jbr82]

That's what happens when you let academia run your athletic department.

Bingo. Top donor power shifted. Joe Johnson and Dickey retired. Been down hill since

 

[airvols]

The beauty of post likes these validates firing Fulmer was a joke that we are still paying
for in failed coaches. Fulmer 6 million buyout looks cheap by today’s standards. Glad he’s assisting with the next coach. Sorry Fulmer haters you are just wrong.

 

[benzod]

The beauty of post likes these validates firing Fulmer was a joke that we are still paying
for in failed coaches. Fulmer 6 million buyout looks cheap by today’s standards. Glad he’s assisting with the next coach. Sorry Fulmer haters you are just wrong.

Nah... Fulmers fire was out. All this nonsense falls on the Athletic department. Bad hires, after bad hires. That is why the majority is pissed. The past is the past. Like I said before, this is a pivotal moment. We either screw the pooch on the next hire or wake up, and start making good decisions for this football program.

 

[ukvols]

Nah... Fulmers fire was out. All this nonsense falls on the Athletic department. Bad hires, after bad hires. That is why the majority is pissed. The past is the past. Like I said before, this is a pivotal moment. We either screw the pooch on the next hire or wake up, and start making good decisions for this football program.

It was time to move on from Fulmer, except that we didn't know Haslam and some bad ADs would screw up every hire after Fulmer.
In hindsight, we may as well have kept Fulmer, Tajh Boyd, and Bryce Petty.

 

[Catbone]

And people wonder why some want to #emptyneyland... lol

Something drastic has to happen or we will never win our division again. Florida actually cares and is going to hire a winner. Georgia is now elite. We are going to be left behind yet again.

This administration is taking advantage of its fans.

 

[dan4vols]

Just occured to me that the individuals responsible for hiring the coaches and staff that are responsible for these numbers.....still.....consistently live at a heck of a higher standard of living than most of us, despite being quantifiable failures at hiring for success over a long long long haul.

 

[LWSVOL]

This is what Haslam and his puppets have sold fans since Fulmer was let go after 16 yrs. Keep in mind TN is traditionally 2nd winningest team in the entire southeast. Here are the results up to this very day compared to the SEC.

1 Bammer 109-11
2 LSU 84-27
3 UGA 80-34
4 Auburn 75-36
5 Florida 72-39
6 S.C. 71-41
7 TX A&M 71-41
8 MS. ST. 67-44
9 Mizzo 66-45
10 Ark. 61-49
11 Ole Miss 57-52
12 UT 56-53
13 KY 45-62
14 Vandy 42-64

Tennessee is not the first program that has spun into a down cycle after letting go a championship winning coach. it is typical outcome of those type moves with almost any top program you can name.

There were also many coaches which turned down looking at us after that move that might have made a difference. You can only hire who will accept the job..

some examples of down spins

Alabama after Bryant
Auburn after Jordan
Georgia after Dooley
LSU after McClendon
Texas after Royal
USC after McKay

 

[99bubble]

Just occured to me that the individuals responsible for hiring the coaches and staff that are responsible for these numbers.....still.....consistently live at a heck of a higher standard of living than most of us, despite being quantifiable failures at hiring for success over a long long long haul.

It's all about phd's telling other phd's "hey, good job..you sure are smart!" Group think at it's finest and they are too "smart" to ever see it. Back in the day, when old coaches were AD's, they knew what a good coach looked and sounded like. Now, eggheads hear some catchy phrases and a nice power point presentation and they think "wow...that guy can coach..I bet!"

 

[jbr82]

Tennessee is not the first program that has spun into a down cycle after letting go a championship winning coach. it is typical outcome of those type moves with almost any top program you can name.

There were also many coaches which turned down looking at us after that move that might have made a difference. You can only hire who will accept the job..

some examples of down spins

Alabama after Bryant
Auburn after Jordan
Georgia after Dooley
LSU after McClendon
Texas after Royal
USC after McKay

That's very true. But surely we had a better option than Kiffin

 

[jbr82]

It's all about phd's telling other phd's "hey, good job..you sure are smart!" Group think at it's finest and they are too "smart" to ever see it. Back in the day, when old coaches were AD's, they knew what a good coach looked and sounded like. Now, eggheads hear some catchy phrases and a nice power point presentation and they think "wow...that guy can coach..I bet!"

Sounds like some of our fans 😜

 

[Proudpopaw57]

Tennessee is not the first program that has spun into a down cycle after letting go a championship winning coach. it is typical outcome of those type moves with almost any top program you can name.

There were also many coaches which turned down looking at us after that move that might have made a difference. You can only hire who will accept the job..

some examples of down spins

Alabama after Bryant
Auburn after Jordan
Georgia after Dooley
LSU after McClendon
Texas after Royal
USC after McKay

This is Exactly what you get when you allow a bunch of pencil pushing egghead administrators gain control over the Athletic Department, and specifically the UT football program.

 

[illinoisvolfan1]

Wow. I knew it was bad but that is horrible. Adds a whole new dimension to the word “suck”.

We’ve set a new low.

 

[sjt18]

This is what Haslam and his puppets have sold fans since Fulmer was let go after 16 yrs. Keep in mind TN is traditionally 2nd winningest team in the entire southeast. Here are the results up to this very day compared to the SEC.

1 Bammer 109-11
2 LSU 84-27
3 UGA 80-34
4 Auburn 75-36
5 Florida 72-39
6 S.C. 71-41
7 TX A&M 71-41
8 MS. ST. 67-44
9 Mizzo 66-45
10 Ark. 61-49
11 Ole Miss 57-52
12 UT 56-53
13 KY 45-62
14 Vandy 42-64

Too many people try to absolve Fulmer of responsibility.

Like Jones but in VASTLY greater proportions, Fulmer did some great things at and for UT. However, he had a long decline starting around 2000. Probably the worst mistake he made was to promote Sanders to OC then stick with him.

The right time for the program for Fulmer to be fired was 2005. The roster was still decent and the lack of discipline was not yet as entrenched as it would eventually be. But Fulmer had earned a chance to turn it around.

Fulmer's failure to turn things around is how UT ended up in the shape it was. Kiffin and Dooley or now Jones have not "fixed" it back to prior peaks... But Fulmer is the one who took it down. The roster was weak and thin. He had lost credibility as a recruiter. Discipline on and off the field was terrible. Academics weren't keeping up with new NCAA initiatives.