What this game realistically means.

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tenmanjonez

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Here's the deal. This is Dooley's 3rd year. There are no more "Moral Victories" like LSU was. The realistic take from this game is that the team is finally in a progressing mode. They have the experience and depth to finally be able to apply techniques and practice (I'm talking mainly everyone but Kickers and Secondary). We had 4 Major issues coming out of Florida: Running Game, Pass Protection, competing all 4 quarters, and Defense. We fixed 75 percent of our problems within a matter of 14 days. Now, this is not to say they were perfect, but the running game was the best that I've seen it in a good while, Bray was hurried some tonight, but had great protection, and we played all the way thru the game. Defense still looked suspect, but it's really on the big plays.

The defense is still confused, and the defense hasn't clicked for them yet. We have an offense that CAN get us the wins even if the defense struggles, which is what we expected from the beginning of the year.

The problem with our fans is they say "We're going to win 8 games max, and lose to this, this, and this team." Then, when we DO lose to that team, and it's by the slimmest of margins, they do nothing more but put this team down because they can't stand the reality. The REALITY is, what we said in the offseason is closer to true than what we're saying now. We're a team who's offense is going to have to win games for us. We're a team that still has a QB that, albeit is a Junior, has played less than 20 collegiate games (not even a sophomore that started from day 1 has this many games through 2 years). So, it's not realistic to expect him to be a finished product like Murray, who has played 3 or 4 years worth of football games.

Anyway, this is kind of the end of a rant in response to all of those posters who are pissed that we lost a game that, before the season, we didn't even belong in. Be upset with a loss, that's natural, and fine, but don't pretend there wasn't progress, and a lot of progress from 2 weeks ago. This team showed more progress in these 2 weeks than a Dooley team has showed in his 2 years. Offensive side of the ball has balance, these things take time. Everybody, finger off the trigger, ease down, and root your heart out for our boys who put it on the line every week!

GBO!!!!
 
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Sorry, dude, The offense doesn't get us wins--and we gave up 51 or whtaever the number was. I am not encouraged.
 
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The vols did great today! I am very proud of them. You are right in that the d is still having to think too much and that is hurting them. But the more we play, the game will slow down for them.
 
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The vols did great today! I am very proud of them. You are right in that the d is still having to think too much and that is hurting them. But the more we play, the game will slow down for them.

The elite teams today run this defense, and they all had a down year. My point to everyone else is that we HAVE an offense that CAN make up for that and get us a win or two that we shouldn't get because of points scored on us. I am very proud of the progress we've made, player wise, and, to be honest, I think Chaney needs to be awarded MVP for our side. For him to have this balanced of an attack for being as pass biased as he is, is remarkable. He called a great game tonight, put us in the spots to win again.
 
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The elite teams today run this defense, and they all had a down year. My point to everyone else is that we HAVE an offense that CAN make up for that and get us a win or two that we shouldn't get because of points scored on us. I am very proud of the progress we've made, player wise, and, to be honest, I think Chaney needs to be awarded MVP for our side. For him to have this balanced of an attack for being as pass biased as he is, is remarkable. He called a great game tonight, put us in the spots to win again.

so what win or two have we got that we shouldnt have? ga basically shut down the pass for tn which opened up our running game but it still wasnt enough to get the job done
 
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If someone would have told me that Tennessee would put up 44 against UGA, I'd be jumping for joy knowing we had a victory. To give up 55 points is inexcusable.
 
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so what win or two have we got that we shouldnt have? ga basically shut down the pass for tn which opened up our running game but it still wasnt enough to get the job done

I used future tense. Didn't say we've had a game that this applied to, except Georgia. We could have very well beat Georgia. We're going to be able to outscore Mizzou, S Car., and MSSU. We SHOULDN'T be able to beat S Car., at least from the way we played pre- Georgia. That's what I mean. People, please learn to read AND comprehend.
 
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Here's the deal. This is Dooley's 3rd year. There are no more "Moral Victories" like LSU was. The realistic take from this game is that the team is finally in a progressing mode. They have the experience and depth to finally be able to apply techniques and practice (I'm talking mainly everyone but Kickers and Secondary). We had 4 Major issues coming out of Florida: Running Game, Pass Protection, competing all 4 quarters, and Defense. We fixed 75 percent of our problems within a matter of 14 days. Now, this is not to say they were perfect, but the running game was the best that I've seen it in a good while, Bray was hurried some tonight, but had great protection, and we played all the way thru the game. Defense still looked suspect, but it's really on the big plays.

The defense is still confused, and the defense hasn't clicked for them yet. We have an offense that CAN get us the wins even if the defense struggles, which is what we expected from the beginning of the year.

The problem with our fans is they say "We're going to win 8 games max, and lose to this, this, and this team." Then, when we DO lose to that team, and it's by the slimmest of margins, they do nothing more but put this team down because they can't stand the reality. The REALITY is, what we said in the offseason is closer to true than what we're saying now. We're a team who's offense is going to have to win games for us. We're a team that still has a QB that, albeit is a Junior, has played less than 20 collegiate games (not even a sophomore that started from day 1 has this many games through 2 years). So, it's not realistic to expect him to be a finished product like Murray, who has played 3 or 4 years worth of football games.

Anyway, this is kind of the end of a rant in response to all of those posters who are pissed that we lost a game that, before the season, we didn't even belong in. Be upset with a loss, that's natural, and fine, but don't pretend there wasn't progress, and a lot of progress from 2 weeks ago. This team showed more progress in these 2 weeks than a Dooley team has showed in his 2 years. Offensive side of the ball has balance, these things take time. Everybody, finger off the trigger, ease down, and root your heart out for our boys who put it on the line every week!

GBO!!!!

good post . i couldn't have said it better myself. only thing I would have added is all these nega-vols need to shut the h@ll up and go root by for someone else
 
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Overall, the team showed some heart today and didn't quit like the Florida game. At times, the defense looked good but got burned bad on several plays. Unless there is more consistency in the defense, I don't see this team winning more than 7 games.
 
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good post . i couldn't have said it better myself. only thing I would have added is all these nega-vols need to shut the h@ll up and go root by for someone else

The Nega-Vols are entitled to their own opinion. It's just when it's an irrational opinion that I get a little upset. If they have a legitimate reason, like the defense, to be negative about, that's fine. I'm negative about that to, but optimistic. When people get off on being able to complain, and they secretly just want a reason to complain, that's what I have issue with.
 
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Overall, the team showed some heart today and didn't quit like the Florida game. At times, the defense looked good but got burned bad on several plays. Unless there is more consistency in the defense, I don't see this team winning more than 7 games.

I agree with the idea of this post. I still think we have the offense to just flat out outscore what our defense gives up. It's just that we played a high octane offense today, and came up just a bit short. I think we have a better Offense than MSU, SCAR, and everyone left on our schedule except Bama (and MAYBE even a better OFFENSE than them, but their defense is better than our offense). I think we can win 9 including the bowl game.
 
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The offense deserved a win today. Defense lost this game for us, cut and dry.

im sorry did we watch the same game?... ya im not happy letting up 51 points but to score 44 against a #5 team is pretty good... that being said... who got us the pick 6 to tie the game up early? who caused fumbles and got us pretty much in the goaline where a grandma in a wheelchair could have scored.... and im sorry but who kept us in the game at the end? that right the defence gave bray 2 chances and he messed it up!! u want to blame anyone?? blame Bray!! he lost us the game cut and dry. :loco:
 
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im sorry did we watch the same game?... ya im not happy letting up 51 points but to score 44 against a #5 team is pretty good... that being said... who got us the pick 6 to tie the game up early? we caused fumbles and got us pretty much in goaline where a grandma in a wheelchair could have scored.... and im sorry but kept us in the game at the end? that right the defence gave bray 2 chances and he messed it up!! u want to blame anyone?? blame Bray!! he lost us the game cut and dry. :loco:

We did watch the same game, and saw the same things. We don't HAVE to score on that last drive if our defense doesn't let up like 7 runs of 70 yards for TD's. (Being semi sarcastic BTW). The defense had it's moments, but it was no where near good, and didn't give Bray 2 more chances, Georgia did, and that's a fact. Defense played off of the LOS most of the night, and when we DID have guys inside the box, they RAN it past all 10 guys in the box. Numbers there don't make sense. Defense lost us the game.
 
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im sorry did we watch the same game?... ya im not happy letting up 51 points but to score 44 against a #5 team is pretty good... that being said... who got us the pick 6 to tie the game up early? who caused fumbles and got us pretty much in the goaline where a grandma in a wheelchair could have scored.... and im sorry but who kept us in the game at the end? that right the defence gave bray 2 chances and he messed it up!! u want to blame anyone?? blame Bray!! he lost us the game cut and dry. :loco:

and btw, this is blatantly incorrect and absurd.
 
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GA scored the most ever points on a TN team in their History today. Our D needs to tighten up the outside lanes & swarm to the ball carrier at top speed and not take the wrong angles at tackling.The D needs to create turnovers & the offense to take advantage of those turnovers at all cost to win.I still see us as a better team for the next game. We put up 44 points on a #5 team at their house. We did not get blown out like Vandy 48-3. We are only 3-2 right now & the Sun will still come up on Sunday which means that it's a new day...and all is NOT lost.
 
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