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Nico ee-ah-MAH-LAY-ah-va said:
I know several New York state residents who have moved to Tennessee. This is a popular spot for them to immigrate to. They all agree though: if New York state could just remove NYC, then they would move back in a heartbeat. Nothing against Tennessee either, but Upstate is just as beautiful if you can stand the winters.
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Don't forget the taxes! Most people would stay in Upstate NY if our taxes weren't so damn outrageous. My wife is from here so she wont move away from family no matter what the taxes are, but Ill tell ya between property, village and school tax(although I do like our local school district), it is blasphemy.
 
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zeppelin128 said:
-Tennessee fans feel entitled to excellence and think it's obscene if they're not perennially top 10. They melt down when they're mediocre (oh boo hoo us) or try to hire a meathead a former Rutgers coach (well they did get that one right).

Ah yes, fans of a program that, let me check my notes, is 11th in all-time winning record expect to be in the top ten; news at 11.
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And that's After " The decade of Dispair/Disfunction".
 
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cherokeeeVOL said:
Upstate New York, or really, most of that state that’s not NYC is one of the most beautiful parts of the country IMO. Wife and I went to Watkins Glenn last summer for a week and loved it.
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Raised in “upstate” NY (upstate is a debatable term depending on how upstate you are), went to UT and was in Tn national guard. Then went active duty, stationed at Drum and now back in my hometown. When I first moved to Tn, nearly everyone I met though NY was just city. I told them they’d be surprised at how similar it is geographically. The Hudson River and valley is amazing all the way up to the Adirondacks. Central NY is a little rough. Though beautiful around the Finger Lakes, the cities are old industrial places and definitely leave much to desire, in my opinion. Back in NY mostly for family reasons but looking forward to retiring in East Tennessee. I actually don’t mind NYC for visits (and Yankee games), but it definitely is a drag on the state as a whole.
 
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newyorkvol said:
Raised in “upstate” NY (upstate is a debatable term depending on how upstate you are), went to UT and was in Tn national guard. Then went active duty, stationed at Drum and now back in my hometown. When I first moved to Tn, nearly everyone I met though NY was just city. I told them they’d be surprised at how similar it is geographically. The Hudson River and valley is amazing all the way up to the Adirondacks. Central NY is a little rough. Though beautiful around the Finger Lakes, the cities are old industrial places and definitely leave much to desire, in my opinion. Back in NY mostly for family reasons but looking forward to retiring in East Tennessee. I actually don’t mind NYC for visits (and Yankee games), but it definitely is a drag on the state as a whole.
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I married a Carolina girl so I have been stuck over in the Charlotte area for 30 years raising our kids. Youngest is 17 so nearly done with school and only 1 more to get through college. East TN is God's country though and my favorite place by far in the country. I have been to or at least driven through close to 40 states and spent time all over the country because my Dad was career USAF and retired as a Colonel. There is no place better than the Knoxville area IMO. My whole family on both sides is from Ktown and surrounding areas. Even if UT wasnt there, the people, the nature and the Park, the food and everything else about East TN would still make it my home. I actually lived in TN less than 10 years of my life...have been in NC for over 30...and Knoxville is still what I call home when speaking to my own wife and children. They love it there also, but my wife won't leave her family members here so I am stuck . Hope you make it back home to TN and have a great retirement when the time comes bud. Go VOLS. So ready for ball to start!!
 
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VOLin315 said:
Don't forget the taxes! Most people would stay in Upstate NY if our taxes weren't so damn outrageous. My wife is from here so she wont move away from family no matter what the taxes are, but Ill tell ya between property, village and school tax(although I do like our local school district), it is blasphemy.
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Ever heard of the Boston tea party? Viva la revolution! When the govt no longer represents and serves the people, it's time to force change.
 
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CAVPUT said:
Ever heard of the Boston tea party? Viva la revolution! When the govt no longer represents and serves the people, it's time to force change.
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In NY it's a case of you get what you pay for. Pretty much 0 federal dollars coming in, plus towns have more of the responsibilities that counties have in the South (schools in particular).

That's why I don't mind NYC being in the state. It's a huge tax base, and if you run the numbers upstate makes out ahead. When I have the cash I can take the train down and have a great weekend in the city. Pretty much a win-win. I saw both the last two Vols games they played at Madison Square Garden, and I didn't have to drive (or park).
 
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CAVPUT said:
Ever heard of the Boston tea party? Viva la revolution! When the govt no longer represents and serves the people, it's time to force change.
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The change will come from out-migration. NY has a 250 billion/yr budget with 70+ billion debt and 10 billion/yr deficit. Tax revenues from all sources is about 120 billion last year (and that was a good year). Its just not sustainable.
 
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kckempf said:
In NY it's a case of you get what you pay for. Pretty much 0 federal dollars coming in, plus towns have more of the responsibilities that counties have in the South (schools in particular).

That's why I don't mind NYC being in the state. It's a huge tax base, and if you run the numbers upstate makes out ahead. When I have the cash I can take the train down and have a great weekend in the city. Pretty much a win-win. I saw both the last two Vols games they played at Madison Square Garden, and I didn't have to drive (or park).
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Ny state uses almost 100 billion a year from federal funds.

www.osc.ny.gov

New York’s Balance of Payments in the Federal Budget: Federal Fiscal Year 2023

The distribution of federal resources – and the fiscal relationship between states and the federal government – is complex.
www.osc.ny.gov www.osc.ny.gov
 
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Nico ee-ah-MAH-LAY-ah-va said:
I know several New York state residents who have moved to Tennessee. This is a popular spot for them to immigrate to. They all agree though: if New York state could just remove NYC, then they would move back in a heartbeat. Nothing against Tennessee either, but Upstate is just as beautiful if you can stand the winters.
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Yah, friend, but that is one big 'if'.

Winter starts as early as October, and lasts as late as April or even early May. At least, from a Tennessean's perspective -- If it's snowing, it's winter. Heh.

So trying to enjoy the green beauty when all that greyness of slush and snow is getting in the way for 6 or 7 months of the year, well, give me Tennessee 10 times out of 10. Heh.

Go Vols!
 
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marcusluvsvols said:
I married a Carolina girl so I have been stuck over in the Charlotte area for 30 years raising our kids. Youngest is 17 so nearly done with school and only 1 more to get through college. East TN is God's country though and my favorite place by far in the country. I have been to or at least driven through close to 40 states and spent time all over the country because my Dad was career USAF and retired as a Colonel. There is no place better than the Knoxville area IMO. My whole family on both sides is from Ktown and surrounding areas. Even if UT wasnt there, the people, the nature and the Park, the food and everything else about East TN would still make it my home. I actually lived in TN less than 10 years of my life...have been in NC for over 30...and Knoxville is still what I call home when speaking to my own wife and children. They love it there also, but my wife won't leave her family members here so I am stuck . Hope you make it back home to TN and have a great retirement when the time comes bud. Go VOLS. So ready for ball to start!!
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Exactly. I am proud to be from East Tennessee, and miss the hills every day. But, I came to South Louisiana in my late 20s ... and yet, here I am, in my late 60s. 🤔
 
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