What Other Message Boards Are Saying: Oklahoma Edition

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How did Oklahoma fans view the Nebraska rivalry? 'twas a shame to see the demise of one of the greatest rivalries in all of college football when Nebraska jumped ship to the Big Ten.

Like losing the love of your life pretty much. Skers belong with us. They know it. We know it.
 
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So, if you would characterize the Oklahoma-Nebraska rivalry as one of deep mutual respect, to what do you attribute the animosity toward Texas? Does the fact that so many of your players were/are from the Lone Star State factor into that equation? Or does it just boil down to the supreme arrogance that so many Texans exude?
 
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So, if you would characterize the Oklahoma-Nebraska rivalry as one of deep mutual respect, to what do you attribute the animosity toward Texas? Does the fact that so many of your players were/are from the Lone Star State factor into that equation? Or does it just boil down to the supreme arrogance that so many Texans exude?


If you ever come to the point of conversing with your average Texas fan, you'll come to understand why we despise them real quick.

I remember in the 90s when we were down the SKers came to Norman and hung 63 on us. They limped away somber and apologetic for the beating and said "you're just not Oklahoma right now. You'll be back"
 
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I'll tell ya how this Sooner felt about losing the Nebraska rivalry. I was, and still am, devastated! 99.9 percent of Sooners fans loathe texas the most. I am part of the .1 percent. I know too many Nebraska fans. I still root against them regardless of who they are playing. I was far more happy when I saw the BYU victory than I was the Notre Dame victory. A victory over Nebraska was so so sweet! I looove beating texas, but for most of my life, Nebraska was conference foe. The one to win and go to the Orange Bowl. A texas victory just meant I felt good until late November. No . . . jus No. I miss beating Nebraska.
 
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If you ever come to the point of conversing with your average Texas fan, you'll come to understand why we despise them real quick.

I remember in the 90s when we were down the SKers came to Norman and hung 63 on us. They limped away somber and apologetic for the beating and said "you're just not Oklahoma right now. You'll be back"


If I am reading between the lines correctly, the relationship between Oklahoma and Nebraska, as programs and fan bases, is similar to what Tennessee and Alabama historically shared. Both considered themselves and each other as "old guard" powers, the annual measuring stick of their respective programs, the team that they most badly wanted to beat and, yet, a team that they respected, as opposed to hated. Is that analogy about right?

Note: This comparison does not take into consideration the Johnny-come-lately bandwagon fans that have flocked to the Alabama cause during Saban's tenure, let alone the similarly myopic Florida faithful, who consider anything that occurred prior to Spurrier's arrival as conveniently irrelevant.
 
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OU has historically had three primary rivals. Each has its own distinct relationship with the Sooners. Nebraska was a conference game played generally for the championship between 2 great programs and fan bases with mutual respect on and off the field. OSU is the in state step child, probably similar to Vandy from your perspective. Not much if any respect for them and they hate us for so many reasons far too numerous to go into here. Texas, however, is the far and away #1 rival.....both hated and respected. We built our program after WW11 with the idea of beating Texas. The two states not only border each other but have one fundamental similarity (Dinasour Wine). About 20% of OU's student body is from Texas. The campus is closer to Dallas than Texas. Literally thousands of Sooners who majored in Geology, Petroleum Engineering, or Petroleum Land Management live in Texas. The Houston OU alumni chapter is the largest in the nation outside the state of OK. Normally at least half our squad are Texas kids. There is a standing joke....."what three things do all small towns in Texas have...a Dairy Queen, great HS football, and an Oklahoma recruiter. The state of Ok has a little over 3 million pop so we have to go to Texas to recruit. Finally, there is the simple fact that the "Sips" simply think they are hot sh__. Their collective "We're Texas" is simply over the top. From our perspective they do less with more than any major college football program. Finally, there is the 2nd Sat. in October...a game day setting totally unique in college football. Unless you have experienced it you really can't appreciate it. The state fair of Texas is the largest in the country and having the game on the fairgrounds during the fair with the stadium split at the 50 half and half is simply like no other game. We hate them. They hate us. It's a hell UVA rivalry.
 
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OU has historically had three primary rivals. Each has its own distinct relationship with the Sooners. Nebraska was a conference game played generally for the championship between 2 great programs and fan bases with mutual respect on and off the field. OSU is the in state step child, probably similar to Vandy from your perspective. Not much if any respect for them and they hate us for so many reasons far too numerous to go into here. Texas, however, is the far and away #1 rival.....both hated and respected. We built our program after WW11 with the idea of beating Texas. The two states not only border each other but have one fundamental similarity (Dinasour Wine). About 20% of OU's student body is from Texas. The campus is closer to Dallas than Texas. Literally thousands of Sooners who majored in Geology, Petroleum Engineering, or Petroleum Land Management live in Texas. The Houston OU alumni chapter is the largest in the nation outside the state of OK. Normally at least half our squad are Texas kids. There is a standing joke....."what three things do all small towns in Texas have...a Dairy Queen, great HS football, and an Oklahoma recruiter. The state of Ok has a little over 3 million pop so we have to go to Texas to recruit. Finally, there is the simple fact that the "Sips" simply think they are hot sh__. Their collective "We're Texas" is simply over the top. From our perspective they do less with more than any major college football program. Finally, there is the 2nd Sat. in October...a game day setting totally unique in college football. Unless you have experienced it you really can't appreciate it. The state fair of Texas is the largest in the country and having the game on the fairgrounds during the fair with the stadium split at the 50 half and half is simply like no other game. We hate them. They hate us. It's a hell UVA rivalry.

Informative analysis. One question... What are "Sips"?
 
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Informative analysis. One question... What are "Sips"?

Sips? Sips are those that are too good (so they think) to actually drink a beer. They are the ones that brag about how much money they have when they are broke as hell like the rest of us. Too good to stand around at the office party with a good beer, instead hold an alcoholic drink with pinky finger sticking out in one hand, cigar in the other. The ones that stand around talking Texas football, claiming to know this person and that person when the only true friend they have is the garbage man they see in the morning, hauling away the secret empty beer cans from the night before. Those are the "sips".
 
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Sips? Sips are those that are too good (so they think) to actually drink a beer. They are the ones that brag about how much money they have when they are broke as hell like the rest of us. Too good to stand around at the office party with a good beer, instead hold an alcoholic drink with pinky finger sticking out in one hand, cigar in the other. The ones that stand around talking Texas football, claiming to know this person and that person when the only true friend they have is the garbage man they see in the morning, hauling away the secret empty beer cans from the night before. Those are the "sips".

I understand now. I know some of those people. They play up Austin's artsy pretend New York scene and look down their nose at the people that really built Texas.
 
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So, if you would characterize the Oklahoma-Nebraska rivalry as one of deep mutual respect, to what do you attribute the animosity toward Texas? Does the fact that so many of your players were/are from the Lone Star State factor into that equation? Or does it just boil down to the supreme arrogance that so many Texans exude?

Just a guess... but I think you asked the right questions. OU supporters seem to look at Texas the way NCSU looks at UNC or I look at UF. There's just that subtle but discernible condescending attitude. Texas supporters look at OU as a program dependent on "traitors".... Texas HS stars who they wanted but left the state.
 
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So, if you would characterize the Oklahoma-Nebraska rivalry as one of deep mutual respect, to what do you attribute the animosity toward Texas? Does the fact that so many of your players were/are from the Lone Star State factor into that equation? Or does it just boil down to the supreme arrogance that so many Texans exude?

It would be criminal to not admit that players from Texas HS's have contributed significantly to the success at OU. I believe that Longhorn Head Coaches have cursed aloud for losing some great talent to OU over the years. I consider it a trade-off myself, since their beloved, legendary coach, Darryl K. Royal was born and raised in Hollis, OK and played QB/DB for Coach Bud Wilkinson at Oklahoma. Royal respected and admired Wilkinson. Royal said many times that the first time he beat Wilkinson after becoming Texas' HC, it made him so sick to his stomach that he threw up several times.

According to Texans, they built this country and everything is due them. To include football.
 
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"Sips"is short for Tea Sips and the expression originated with the Aggies who share our same low opinion of Texas.The name should tell you everything you need to know about Texas.
 
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It would be criminal to not admit that players from Texas HS's have contributed significantly to the success at OU. I believe that Longhorn Head Coaches have cursed aloud for losing some great talent to OU over the years. I consider it a trade-off myself, since their beloved, legendary coach, Darryl K. Royal was born and raised in Hollis, OK and played QB/DB for Coach Bud Wilkinson at Oklahoma. Royal respected and admired Wilkinson. Royal said many times that the first time he beat Wilkinson after becoming Texas' HC, it made him so sick to his stomach that he threw up several times.

According to Texans, they built this country and everything is due them. To include football.

Well, if there is something Oklahoma fans can legitimately hate Tennesseans for... it's giving Texas their statehood. Which they consistently forget.
 
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It would be criminal to not admit that players from Texas HS's have contributed significantly to the success at OU. I believe that Longhorn Head Coaches have cursed aloud for losing some great talent to OU over the years. I consider it a trade-off myself, since their beloved, legendary coach, Darryl K. Royal was born and raised in Hollis, OK and played QB/DB for Coach Bud Wilkinson at Oklahoma. Royal respected and admired Wilkinson. Royal said many times that the first time he beat Wilkinson after becoming Texas' HC, it made him so sick to his stomach that he threw up several times.

According to Texans, they built this country and everything is due them. To include football.

BS BUDBARRY: If it were not for the great contribution of Davey Crockett and the Tennessee Volunteers, the whole state of Texas would be part of Mexico
 
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BS BUDBARRY: If it were not for the great contribution of Davey Crockett and the Tennessee Volunteers, the whole state of Texas would be part of Mexico

Don't get upset with me. It's not what I think. I've been dealing with Texas fans for over 45 years and these are the thoughts they have. Hell, I know what fine, outstanding men were with Crockett. To Texas fans however, Crockett is a cake-mix (Betty Crocker).
 
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If I am reading between the lines correctly, the relationship between Oklahoma and Nebraska, as programs and fan bases, is similar to what Tennessee and Alabama historically shared. Both considered themselves and each other as "old guard" powers, the annual measuring stick of their respective programs, the team that they most badly wanted to beat and, yet, a team that they respected, as opposed to hated. Is that analogy about right?

You sound dead on to me, Volosaurus. It really sounds like their Oklahoma-Nebraska is our Vols-Bama, and even a step further, that their Sooner-Longhorns is our Vols-Gators. IDK if we can spread that all the way over to Oklahoma - OK State being parallel to Vols-Vandy, but the first two analogies seem dead-on from what they're saying.

A really interesting thing to learn about Oklahoma and the other schools. Thanks!
 
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I'm surprised Oklahoma has internet...I mean they don't even have grocery stores out there..or regular strength beer.
 
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If I am reading between the lines correctly, the relationship between Oklahoma and Nebraska, as programs and fan bases, is similar to what Tennessee and Alabama historically shared. Both considered themselves and each other as "old guard" powers, the annual measuring stick of their respective programs, the team that they most badly wanted to beat and, yet, a team that they respected, as opposed to hated. Is that analogy about right?

You sound dead on to me, Volosaurus. It really sounds like their Oklahoma-Nebraska is our Vols-Bama, and even a step further, that their Sooner-Longhorns is our Vols-Gators. IDK if we can spread that all the way over to Oklahoma - OK State being parallel to Vols-Vandy, but the first two analogies seem dead-on from what they're saying.

The slobber-fest in here over Bammer is sickening. Bump those toothless hicks from Tuscaloosa.
 
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The slobber-fest in here over Bammer is sickening. Bump those toothless hicks from Tuscaloosa.


You can take that grievance up with Neyland and Bryant. They both regarded the Third Saturday in October to be the annual measuring stick of their respective programs. And, when you add up his record vs. Tennessee while at Kentucky (0-5-2), his record vs. Tennessee while at Texas A & M (0-1) and the seven losses to Tennessee that he endured while at 'bama, Bryant almost certainly lost more frequently to Tennessee than any other major college head football coach. Of course, he also won sixteen games against us while coaching the Tidy Bowl boys, but it is easy to see why he valued the Tennessee-Alabama rivalry so highly.
 
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You can take that grievance up with Neyland and Bryant. They both regarded the Third Saturday in October to be the annual measuring stick of their respective programs. And, when you add up his record vs. Tennessee while at Kentucky (0-5-2), his record vs. Tennessee while at Texas A & M (0-1) and the seven losses to Tennessee that he endured while at 'bama, Bryant almost certainly lost more frequently to Tennessee than any other major college head football coach. Of course, he also won sixteen games against us while coaching the Tidy Bowl boys, but it is easy to see why he valued the Tennessee-Alabama rivalry so highly.

Why would I give 2 craps about what Bear Bryant thinks about the TN/Bammer rivalry?
 
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BS BUDBARRY: If it were not for the great contribution of Davey Crockett and the Tennessee Volunteers, the whole state of Texas would be part of Mexico


In Big Orange Country, we have another saying: The "gift" of Robert Reese Neyland to Tennessee almost evened the score for the sacrifices that Crockett et al made for Texas.
 
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You can take that grievance up with Neyland and Bryant. They both regarded the Third Saturday in October to be the annual measuring stick of their respective programs. And, when you add up his record vs. Tennessee while at Kentucky (0-5-2), his record vs. Tennessee while at Texas A & M (0-1) and the seven losses to Tennessee that he endured while at 'bama, Bryant almost certainly lost more frequently to Tennessee than any other major college head football coach. Of course, he also won sixteen games against us while coaching the Tidy Bowl boys, but it is easy to see why he valued the Tennessee-Alabama rivalry so highly.

When I was a wee little Volunteer lass growing up in middle Tennessee--very young--the Bear was at the end of his career at Bama. So I grew up with Bama as public enemy #1. Respected, not feared, and our truly important rival. Florida snuck in there when Bama was down, and it was literally Spurrier's mouth(and success,) that fueled that rivalry. Florida we hated and didn't respect. Zook-gate sealed that hatred and distespect in blood. Still don't respect them. Makes Florida the annoying reptile we squish before going on to tackle the Tide.

I have a sneaky suspicion though that both the General and the Bear would like and respect CBJ a lot more than Spurrier or Saban. And that's why he's managed to bring together the fans who remember how it was with the fans that are seeing how it will be.
 
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