What Other Message Boards Are Saying: 2015 UGA Edition

[LittleCat]

In my honest opinion, there is nothing that has occurred on the field that suggests our game with Georgia should be anything other than a pick em. If it's lopsided either way I think that'll say more about the coaching/mental state of either team, and not the actual talent of the teams.

Or maybe it's because one team happens to play better/or play down, on any given game. Elite teams show up every single week and ball. Good teams can sometimes do it. Then there is a huge chunk that plays very much up/down depending on just a few things. UF has played extremely down to competition and extremely up to competition. Ole Miss has. UK has. Hell, even Vandy has. Those teams aren't equal, but they've all been very inconsistent.

SEC isn't as down as a lot of people say, but has some of the most inconsistent teams (of varying qualities) in the nation. I still think SEC has a lot of really good bad teams, if that makes any sense.

p.s. Good job ignoring UKs win over Mizzou and instead focus on the dumpster of USCjr

 

[UrbanCryer]

"Richt's mediocrity"? They have no clue what mediocrity is.

neither do we. were a dumpster fire again

 

[Other_Guy]

I apologize for being redundant as I've asked this a few times this week. But what has Georgia done ON THE FIELD that makes so many people convinced they are going to win this game?

I honestly believe that people have not yet realized how down the SEC is- and particularly how atrocious the East is- and it has affected rankings and perceptions in a major way. South Carolina and Vandy have been complete dumpster fires, and they have been a common opponent to many of the SEC teams who are getting a lot of possibly undeserved hype. And Georgia has played them both.

A couple of examples:
Kentucky is 4-1 with a win against South Carolina. They also had to score a TD with less than a minute to play to avoid OT with Louisiana Lafayette and actually DID go to OT with Eastern Kentucky! This is the same Kentucky team that only lost by 5 points to what is now supposedly the 11th best team in the country in Florida?

Florida is another example of how SEC hype has led to a ridiculous jump in perception. They have received a HUGE amount of momentum going from unranked to #11. Yet this is a team that had to force a turnover in the red zone with 12 seconds left to beat ECU at home by a touchdown. They beat previously discussed Kentucky by 5, and you all know how our game went. They have essentially garnered a #11 ranking by beating Ole Miss at home, WHO THEMSELVES WENT FROM #15 TO #3 by winning one game-defeating an Alabama team that committed 5 turnovers- and also beating Vandy by 11.

Georgia has beaten both South Carolina and Vandy, unquestionably the two worst teams in the entire conference. That's it. They were also blown out at home against Alabama.

In my honest opinion, Bowling Green is a better win than any that Georgia has. Other than the SEC name attached I don't think people would even argue it. BG would thrash Vandy and I believe beat SCAR.

In my honest opinion, there is nothing that has occurred on the field that suggests our game with Georgia should be anything other than a pick em. If it's lopsided either way I think that'll say more about the coaching/mental state of either team, and not the actual talent of the teams.

Its amazing how if you're a highly ranked.program they go googly over you beating crappy teams. How does Mich St get jumped but not OSU?

 

[supersmo18]

Thanks OP, love this thread each week

 

[MyBloodRunnethOrange]

I apologize for being redundant as I've asked this a few times this week. But what has Georgia done ON THE FIELD that makes so many people convinced they are going to win this game?

I honestly believe that people have not yet realized how down the SEC is- and particularly how atrocious the East is- and it has affected rankings and perceptions in a major way. South Carolina and Vandy have been complete dumpster fires, and they have been a common opponent to many of the SEC teams who are getting a lot of possibly undeserved hype. And Georgia has played them both.

A couple of examples:
Kentucky is 4-1 with a win against South Carolina. They also had to score a TD with less than a minute to play to avoid OT with Louisiana Lafayette and actually DID go to OT with Eastern Kentucky! This is the same Kentucky team that only lost by 5 points to what is now supposedly the 11th best team in the country in Florida?

Florida is another example of how SEC hype has led to a ridiculous jump in perception. They have received a HUGE amount of momentum going from unranked to #11. Yet this is a team that had to force a turnover in the red zone with 12 seconds left to beat ECU at home by a touchdown. They beat previously discussed Kentucky by 5, and you all know how our game went. They have essentially garnered a #11 ranking by beating Ole Miss at home, WHO THEMSELVES WENT FROM #15 TO #3 by winning one game-defeating an Alabama team that committed 5 turnovers- and also beating Vandy by 11.

Georgia has beaten both South Carolina and Vandy, unquestionably the two worst teams in the entire conference. That's it. They were also blown out at home against Alabama.

In my honest opinion, Bowling Green is a better win than any that Georgia has. Other than the SEC name attached I don't think people would even argue it. BG would thrash Vandy and I believe beat SCAR.

In my honest opinion, there is nothing that has occurred on the field that suggests our game with Georgia should be anything other than a pick em. If it's lopsided either way I think that'll say more about the coaching/mental state of either team, and not the actual talent of the teams.

I'm not convinced they will win, I'm convinced we will lose.

 

[volgrad500]

Or maybe it's because one team happens to play better/or play down, on any given game. Elite teams show up every single week and ball. Good teams can sometimes do it. Then there is a huge chunk that plays very much up/down depending on just a few things. UF has played extremely down to competition and extremely up to competition. Ole Miss has. UK has. Hell, even Vandy has. Those teams aren't equal, but they've all been very inconsistent.

SEC isn't as down as a lot of people say, but has some of the most inconsistent teams (of varying qualities) in the nation. I still think SEC has a lot of really good bad teams, if that makes any sense.

p.s. Good job ignoring UKs win over Mizzou and instead focus on the dumpster of USCjr

I honestly didn't ignore it, but felt like it was redundant to prove my point! Missouri has looked HORRIBLE this season. The game they played (and absolutely should have lost) against UCONN is quite possibly the worst football game I've seen in a decade. The fact that Missouri has been ranked this season is exactly what I'm talking about. Mizzou's best wins have been a TD win against Arkansas State, a 3 point win against UCONN, and a win against, you guessed it, South Carolina. The key to being ranked in the SEC is to play SCAR or Vandy early.

 

[LittleCat]

I honestly didn't ignore it, but felt like it was redundant to prove my point! Missouri has looked HORRIBLE this season. The game they played (and absolutely should have lost) against UCONN is quite possibly the worst football game I've seen in a decade. The fact that Missouri has been ranked this season is exactly what I'm talking about.

And yes I'd agree with that completely. Still, I thought the win over Mizzouri was much better than the win over USCjr. Either way, you are right in the first post. Maybe a little sour grapes on my part.

Thanks. :hi:

 

[volgrad500]

And yes I'd agree with that completely. Still, I thought the win over Mizzouri was much better than the win over USCjr. Either way, you are right in the first post. Maybe a little sour grapes on my part.

Thanks. :hi:

Ha no you are right. The truth is probably somewhere in the middle. But long story short, I'm to buying Georgia haha.

 

[vol-un-tear]

@FootballTimeMag: @BrockDodd we weren't there for the whole thing. But the open portion was awful. Players mouthing to coaches, coaches swearing at players.
@FootballTimeMag: @_BlakeTucker players flat out arguing with coaches about drills, etc. very bad.
@FootballTimeMag: Really weird vibe at practice today. Body language wasn't great. Butch, for the first time I can remember, wasn't on the mic. Eerily quiet.



:no:Unsettling

Haven't even heard this BS on our board. No way I listen to them. Wow!

 

[volgrad500]

Its amazing how if you're a highly ranked.program they go googly over you beating crappy teams. How does Mich St get jumped but not OSU?

And it seems worse this year than normal. In the span of 8 days, Florida went from being unranked to #11. And they did that by winning two games at home against us and Ole Miss.

 

[easttnvol14]

I apologize for being redundant as I've asked this a few times this week. But what has Georgia done ON THE FIELD that makes so many people convinced they are going to win this game?

I honestly believe that people have not yet realized how down the SEC is- and particularly how atrocious the East is- and it has affected rankings and perceptions in a major way. South Carolina and Vandy have been complete dumpster fires, and they have been a common opponent to many of the SEC teams who are getting a lot of possibly undeserved hype. And Georgia has played them both.

A couple of examples:
Kentucky is 4-1 with a win against South Carolina. They also had to score a TD with less than a minute to play to avoid OT with Louisiana Lafayette and actually DID go to OT with Eastern Kentucky! This is the same Kentucky team that only lost by 5 points to what is now supposedly the 11th best team in the country in Florida?

Florida is another example of how SEC hype has led to a ridiculous jump in perception. They have received a HUGE amount of momentum going from unranked to #11. Yet this is a team that had to force a turnover in the red zone with 12 seconds left to beat ECU at home by a touchdown. They beat previously discussed Kentucky by 5, and you all know how our game went. They have essentially garnered a #11 ranking by beating Ole Miss at home, WHO THEMSELVES WENT FROM #15 TO #3 by winning one game-defeating an Alabama team that committed 5 turnovers- and also beating Vandy by 11.

Georgia has beaten both South Carolina and Vandy, unquestionably the two worst teams in the entire conference. That's it. They were also blown out at home against Alabama.

In my honest opinion, Bowling Green is a better win than any that Georgia has. Other than the SEC name attached I don't think people would even argue it. BG would thrash Vandy and I believe beat SCAR.

In my honest opinion, there is nothing that has occurred on the field that suggests our game with Georgia should be anything other than a pick em. If it's lopsided either way I think that'll say more about the coaching/mental state of either team, and not the actual talent of the teams.

The SEC has best record of any conf this yr in nonconf games, power 5 and non-power 5. So yes,,FL struggled with ECU but Oh St has struggles with everyone but theu are still #1, Stanford lost to Northwestern and so on and so on. All Power 5 conf have had their struggles so far but SEC has best record.

 

[SlipKidVol]

@FootballTimeMag: @BrockDodd we weren't there for the whole thing. But the open portion was awful. Players mouthing to coaches, coaches swearing at players.
@FootballTimeMag: @_BlakeTucker players flat out arguing with coaches about drills, etc. very bad.
@FootballTimeMag: Really weird vibe at practice today. Body language wasn't great. Butch, for the first time I can remember, wasn't on the mic. Eerily quiet.



:no:Unsettling

Same BS all week.

 

[99gator]

And it seems worse this year than normal. In the span of 8 days, Florida went from being unranked to #11. And they did that by winning two games at home against us and Ole Miss.

What would your rankings be? At some point, you have to rank teams somewhere.

Eventually, they prove it on the field or they drop. No use obsessing about rankings now.

If Florida wins, they'll stay. If not, they'll drop. That goes for all the teams.

If the ranked teams are overrated, who are the unranked teams that should be ranked?

 

[dhb92]

Im surprised some of you are just now hearing about this. This was from Tuesday and was posted all over VN.

I was really just pointing out that they've seen it now too and they're discussing it.

Where? I must've missed it as well and can't find it, link?

 

[volbrawler]

I'm not going to bash Gurley, he's a hell of a back, but when you go down and your backup is just as productive as you.. Then the next year you're both hurt and the next guy is just as productive.. Your offensive line might have something to do with the success of your running backs.

Hurd isn't brought up in the discussion with Chubb, Fournette, or any other SEC back but he's just as productive and plays behind an atrocious offensive line.

 

[VonVol]

I'm not going to bash Gurley, he's a hell of a back, but when you go down and your backup is just as productive as you.. Then the next year you're both hurt and the next guy is just as productive.. Your offensive line might have something to do with the success of your running backs.

Hurd isn't brought up in the discussion with Chubb, Fournette, or any other SEC back but he's just as productive and plays behind an atrocious offensive line.

I am a huge Hurd fan. But saying he is just as productive as Fournette and Chubb is way off. Fournette 216 yards per game. Chubb 148 yards per game. Hurd 98 yards per game. Hurd has more carries than either one of them too.

 

[volbrawler]

I am a huge Hurd fan. But saying he is just as productive as Fournette and Chubb is way off. Fournette 216 yards per game. Chubb 148 yards per game. Hurd 98 yards per game. Hurd has more carries than either one of them too.

Just as many TD's as Chubb. Also, I wonder what Hurds stats would look like if our schedule so far was Vandy, South Carolina, Louisiana Monroe, and Southern..

LSU as well, outside of MSU who have they played? Syracuse and Eastern Michigan.

We've played one scrub game and Hurd sat most of it.. His production behind that line against the teams we've played is productive.

 

[VonVol]

Just as many TD's as Chubb. Also, I wonder what Hurds stats would look like if our schedule so far was Vandy, South Carolina, Louisiana Monroe, and Southern..

LSU as well, outside of MSU who have they played? Syracuse and Eastern Michigan.

We've played one scrub game and Hurd sat most of it.. His production behind that line against the teams we've played is productive.

I don't disagree with the schedule or the line play. But production is production. You also conveniently left out that Chubb went for 146 on Bama.

 

[VonVol]

Just as many TD's as Chubb. Also, I wonder what Hurds stats would look like if our schedule so far was Vandy, South Carolina, Louisiana Monroe, and Southern..

LSU as well, outside of MSU who have they played? Syracuse and Eastern Michigan.

We've played one scrub game and Hurd sat most of it.. His production behind that line against the teams we've played is productive.

And to be fair, we've played two scrub defensive teams. BG can't stop anyone.

 

[volbrawler]

I don't disagree with the schedule or the line play. But production is production. You also conveniently left out that Chubb went for 146 on Bama.

83 on one run when the game was handily wrapped up.. Nobody even chased him. I'm not saying he's a bad back, but every back for the last three years has been that productive playing for Georgia. The line definitely plays a large role in that.

 

[DCompagnucci]

In 2014 Gurley ran it 28 times for 208 yds and 2 TDs vs UT. In 2012 as a true Freshman TG ran 24 times for 130 yds and 3 tds. In 2013 he did not play due to a high ankle sprain so yes, he played complete games in 2 of the 3 match ups vs Tenn during his time at UGA.

It's pretty obvious Hurd doesn't have the speed of a Gurley. Gurley was taking it to the house constantly from 50+ yards. Hurd usually gets ran down from behind after about 30 yards or so. That doesn't mean Hurd isn't very, very good, because he is, he's just not a homerun hitter type RB.

 

[VonVol]

83 on one run when the game was handily wrapped up.. Nobody even chased him. I'm not saying he's a bad back, but every back for the last three years has been that productive playing for Georgia. The line definitely plays a large role in that.

They definitely have a better line than we do. But who doesn't? Fact is Gurley and Chubb are very very good. I think Hurd is too. And I hope he's the more productive back Saturday.

 

[volbrawler]

They definitely have a better line than we do. But who doesn't? Fact is Gurley and Chubb are very very good. I think Hurd is too. And I hope he's the more productive back Saturday.

I think they're all great, but one had an obviously less talented line, so he is never included in the discussion!!

 

[volgrad500]

What would your rankings be? At some point, you have to rank teams somewhere.

Eventually, they prove it on the field or they drop. No use obsessing about rankings now.

If Florida wins, they'll stay. If not, they'll drop. That goes for all the teams.

If the ranked teams are overrated, who are the unranked teams that should be ranked?

Don't get me wrong- Florida may very well be exactly where they deserve- but ridiculous preseason polls plus a weaker than normal SEC have skewed the perception of the quality of some wins and losses. I'll ask you-have you ever seen a team go from unranked to #11 in 8 days? In that 8 day span Florida won two games at home against teams with a combined 6-4 record.

But the reason I brought any of this up is specifically how the view of SEC teams has helped the perception of UGA. They started the season ranked #9. They are now ranked #19, going 2-1 against the two absolute worst teams in the conference and being trounced by Alabama.

If Georgia had played Oklahoma, Florida, and Arkansas, what record would you give them? 3-0? 2-1? 1-2?

Our game is much more winnable than some think, in my honest opinion. I might be wrong. I hope to hell I'm not haha. That's all I was trying to say, really didn't mean to take a shot at the Gators.

 

[Catbone]

It sucks that we will never see Hurd behind a good OL. Next year I suspect we will be average at best. Unless maybe Mahoney is canned