What on Earth Do You All Want??????

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40 of the last SEC Head Coaching hires, 5 where sitting Power 5 Head Coaches. Most of the successful ones where in fact coordinators.
Dabo was actually a position coach. Smart a coordinator. Riley a coordinator. Richt before Georgia...a coordinator. Hall of Famer Fulmer a coordinator. Gus essentially a coordinator as he had one year as head coach at Arkansas State. This thought that Tennessee, a very middle of the road program with the exception of the Fulmer era, should be hiring a big time head coach is ridiculous. The last 3 Tennessee hires where horrific. Leach would be a laughingstock. So if Tennessee hires a great coordinator and does well, what then would the legions of the miserable would you have to whine about.

Tere have been a ton of openings this season. Has Leach gotten any of them? Tee has been turned down by Georgia Southern and before that South Alabama. He is not the primary play caller and Helton is singing his praises so someone will take him off their hands. No one has wanted Schiano either.

If it's Pruitt, another Alabama coordinator did well and is in the playoff. If it's Tucker (which it should be) he is a long time coordinator, worked under Saban and was a long time NFL guy. The coaching community is very high on both of them.

Face it. Hamilton destroyed the athletic department. Currie was on the way. Currie is a joke in the coaching world and no great coach would ever want to work for him. It will take time to repair the damage done by Hamilton. Relax and enjoy as they bring a professional in and we do not have to hear the Butchisms garbage anymore.
 
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An experienced coach that can win now - not one that needs to spend the next 3 to 5 years of on the job training to win. If we get an OJT HC - we are at this same point again in 3 to 4 years - maybe sooner.
 
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I don’t think anybody has ever been a HC without being a position/coordinator coach at some point at first. With that being said, bring on Pruitt. I’d be extremely happy with the hire.
 
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volfan102455 said:
An experienced coach that can win now - not one that needs to spend the next 3 to 5 years of on the job training to win. If we get an OJT HC - we are at this same point again in 3 to 4 years - maybe sooner.
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So you want a Kirby Smart or Lincoln Riley type hire. Hmmmm
 
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I want so called vol fans that think we are middle of the road and ridiculous for us to hire a top coach to pack up with the folks that do the hiring that also think so , and get on a bus and drive it over a cliff
 
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VolFan..But said:
40 of the last SEC Head Coaching hires, 5 where sitting Power 5 Head Coaches. Most of the successful ones where in fact coordinators.
Dabo was actually a position coach. Smart a coordinator. Riley a coordinator. Richt before Georgia...a coordinator. Hall of Famer Fulmer a coordinator. Gus essentially a coordinator as he had one year as head coach at Arkansas State. This thought that Tennessee, a very middle of the road program with the exception of the Fulmer era, should be hiring a big time head coach is ridiculous. The last 3 Tennessee hires where horrific. Leach would be a laughingstock. So if Tennessee hires a great coordinator and does well, what then would the legions of the miserable would you have to whine about.

Tere have been a ton of openings this season. Has Leach gotten any of them? Tee has been turned down by Georgia Southern and before that South Alabama. He is not the primary play caller and Helton is singing his praises so someone will take him off their hands. No one has wanted Schiano either.

If it's Pruitt, another Alabama coordinator did well and is in the playoff. If it's Tucker (which it should be) he is a long time coordinator, worked under Saban and was a long time NFL guy. The coaching community is very high on both of them.

Face it. Hamilton destroyed the athletic department. Currie was on the way. Currie is a joke in the coaching world and no great coach would ever want to work for him. It will take time to repair the damage done by Hamilton. Relax and enjoy as they bring a professional in and we do not have to hear the Butchisms garbage anymore.
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These stories get more ridiculous. Let’s find another way to belittle Martin. This time let’s throw in South Alabama, where he never interviewed and Joey Jones stepped down last week.
 
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What I want is to win. But at the very least, I want to know if Tennessee is legitimately trying to compete with their rivals for SEC and National Titles or Tennessee wants to rest on its laurels just enough to keep the stadium mostly full.

We spent the most time on this coaching search and put in the least brainpower.
 
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VolFan..But said:
40 of the last SEC Head Coaching hires, 5 where sitting Power 5 Head Coaches. Most of the successful ones where in fact coordinators.
Dabo was actually a position coach. Smart a coordinator. Riley a coordinator. Richt before Georgia...a coordinator. Hall of Famer Fulmer a coordinator. Gus essentially a coordinator as he had one year as head coach at Arkansas State. This thought that Tennessee, a very middle of the road program with the exception of the Fulmer era, should be hiring a big time head coach is ridiculous. The last 3 Tennessee hires where horrific. Leach would be a laughingstock. So if Tennessee hires a great coordinator and does well, what then would the legions of the miserable would you have to whine about.



Tere have been a ton of openings this season. Has Leach gotten any of them? Tee has been turned down by Georgia Southern and before that South Alabama. He is not the primary play caller and Helton is singing his praises so someone will take him off their hands. No one has wanted Schiano either.

If it's Pruitt, another Alabama coordinator did well and is in the playoff. If it's Tucker (which it should be) he is a long time coordinator, worked under Saban and was a long time NFL guy. The coaching community is very high on both of them.

Face it. Hamilton destroyed the athletic department. Currie was on the way. Currie is a joke in the coaching world and no great coach would ever want to work for him. It will take time to repair the damage done by Hamilton. Relax and enjoy as they bring a professional in and we do not have to hear the Butchisms garbage anymore.
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This^^. Finally, reality and truth. UT is not an elite program or job. Debatable if it has been or could be but there’s no reason we can’t be a consistent top 15 with jumps every now and then to top 5. We are like my dog who is sweet and will fetch every so often but we love him anyway but is no danger to burglars. We would like to be like my German Shepherd who controls the area and dares you to enter, and we love her too. Let’s enjoy the ride, and be real.
 
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Do you people seriously think there is no career advancement? Coordinators are receiving on the job training for a HC position when they are COORDINATORS. (Except the ones that are career coordinators or HC's that haven taken less responsibility). Position coaches are getting on the job training to be Coordinators. You act like if you hire a Coordinator they will be coming in off the streets with no knowledge (like most of you). Coordinators gameplan, manage their staffs, make in-game adjustments. At the college level they also recruit and to the HS athletes and coaches they are more accessible than the Head Coach. Pruitt, Tucker, Venebles have been through the fire and have coached at a very high level. If they are not "names" to you then do your homework.
 
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People want a guarantee or as close to one as they can get.

There are no guarantees.

Everyone is always more likely to hire a Butch or Mac than a Saban or Meyer
 
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I want everyone from the admin to the Athletic department to all the fans to accept we are: an average, middle of the road SEC football team. We will be lucky to win an East title once every ten years, and we are an average 8-9 win team. Why, because this is reality, because history supports it, and because facts support it.

Wish it were not so, we are the best and most insane fanbase in the country, but, we are exactly what is posted above.
 
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checkerboards09 said:
I don’t think anybody has ever been a HC without being a position/coordinator coach at some point at first. With that being said, bring on Pruitt. I’d be extremely happy with the hire.
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This. If we’re going this route, let’s get it on already. I’ll take someone that has an excellent track record at what they’ve been hired to do thus far with more to prove over a Kevin Steele who has been a head coach and sucked at it worse than possibly anyone short of Watson Brown.
 
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Wow, another thread complaining about people expressing their opinions on a message board. 2 in one day, nice.
 
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tennvols77 said:
I want everyone from the admin to the Athletic department to all the fans to accept we are: an average, middle of the road SEC football team. We will be lucky to win an East title once every ten years, and we are an average 8-9 win team. Why, because this is reality, because history supports it, and because facts support it.

Wish it were not so, we are the best and most insane fanbase in the country, but, we are exactly what is posted above.
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You can use whatever “average” you want, but you can’t let crappy hires define your program. Clemson didn’t settle and they were complete crap before Dabo got there. A program can turn into a 10+ win program at anytime, no matter the past.
 
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checkerboards09 said:
You can use whatever “average” you want, but you can’t let crappy hires define your program. Clemson didn’t settle and they were complete crap before Dabo got there. A program can turn into a 10+ win program at anytime, no matter the past.
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Got there as their wr coach?
 
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All i want is the UTAD to take football seriously. To strive for championships.

The schools we play against do. UF just ran a guy off that won their division both full seasons he was there. Why? Their not playing around. Their serious about football.

UGa just fired a man that won 10 games a year and clearly was a great coach many schools would kill for. Why? Because they are freakin serious about wanting to win championships. They won one already and are in the playoff.

Lsu ran off Les Miles. A Nat Champ winning coach.

aTm just threw everything they had at Jimbo.

Bama over threw their Haslam and pay more $$$ at a coach than any team ever has.

Auburn was ready to run off Gus who was a main cog in winning them a Champ and did get them to another.

Meanwhile in Knoxville, we hire Dooley, Butch, Schiano, go winless in the SEC for the 1st time ever. We are a dumpster fire and have fallen apart and when fans finally grabs our entire admin by the boo-boo and say we are getting left behind at mach II by our entire conference and we wont back you if you dont show us you mean buisness and want to win games, they roll out these names.

You ask what i want? I want our admin to be serious about winning.
 
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VolFan..But said:
40 of the last SEC Head Coaching hires, 5 where sitting Power 5 Head Coaches. Most of the successful ones where in fact coordinators.
Dabo was actually a position coach. Smart a coordinator. Riley a coordinator. Richt before Georgia...a coordinator. Hall of Famer Fulmer a coordinator. Gus essentially a coordinator as he had one year as head coach at Arkansas State. This thought that Tennessee, a very middle of the road program with the exception of the Fulmer era, should be hiring a big time head coach is ridiculous. The last 3 Tennessee hires where horrific. Leach would be a laughingstock. So if Tennessee hires a great coordinator and does well, what then would the legions of the miserable would you have to whine about.

Tere have been a ton of openings this season. Has Leach gotten any of them? Tee has been turned down by Georgia Southern and before that South Alabama. He is not the primary play caller and Helton is singing his praises so someone will take him off their hands. No one has wanted Schiano either.

If it's Pruitt, another Alabama coordinator did well and is in the playoff. If it's Tucker (which it should be) he is a long time coordinator, worked under Saban and was a long time NFL guy. The coaching community is very high on both of them.

Face it. Hamilton destroyed the athletic department. Currie was on the way. Currie is a joke in the coaching world and no great coach would ever want to work for him. It will take time to repair the damage done by Hamilton. Relax and enjoy as they bring a professional in and we do not have to hear the Butchisms garbage anymore.
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Both of these guys and include Venebles in that group, are 100000% better than Butch Jones. If my choice is between a hot up and coming coordinator or a guy like Frohm, Doeren, Leach or Miles, give me the coordinator.
 
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Really doesn't matter now. The really good candidates are off the table now. UT AD sat around for weeks while Kelly, Mullen, Frost et al . went else where. And once again UT will drag out some has-been/never-will character at a press conference and try to convince everyone that this slug is the next Lombardi/Saban/Belichick and we should all be patient. He's gonna work like heck.
I've heard it all before and I've lost interest.
 
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