What makes y'all think that Harrison Bailey

[Other_Guy]

Wont redshirt? It's hard for me to believe that he would unseat JG preseason and if JG doesn't regress again, at all. Then you have Hill who has experience and Maurer who has enough experience and shown flashes. Is HB supposed to be that awesome right out of the gate?
Wouldn't it make sense for CJP to plan to redshirt him if he's behind JG but equal to the others and next year he only has Maurer to worry about? Maurer could transfer anyway.
Just want yalls thoughts who think HB will be at least the #2 guy. (And I'll understand if this gets moved to the similar QB thread going on)

 

[majic73]

This is exactly what is needed : competition. When JG had to come off the bench a few times and share playing time , he became better fast. We need more of it at every position

 

[livefaith]

This is exactly what is needed : competition. When JG had to come off the bench a few times and share playing time , he became better fast. We need more of it at every position

Nailed it. It's healthy for the team and undesirable for every player.

Plus HB can play in four games and still RS. So it's a bit different these days. It's possible to get real help from a player who redshirts now

 

[JMSqb11]

Wont redshirt? It's hard for me to believe that he would unseat JG preseason and if JG doesn't regress again, at all. Then you have Hill who has experience and Maurer who has enough experience and shown flashes. Is HB supposed to be that awesome right out of the gate?
Wouldn't it make sense for CJP to plan to redshirt him if he's behind JG but equal to the others and next year he only has Maurer to worry about? Maurer could transfer anyway.
Just want yalls thoughts who think HB will be at least the #2 guy. (And I'll understand if this gets moved to the similar QB thread going on)

I never think two situations are the same in College Football, but with the hype Bailey is getting, there COULD be (emphasis on could) another Clemson situation with Bryant/Lawrence. I do think Lawrence is a unique QB and I don't think there is any reason to think Bailey is another Trevor Lawrence. But the hype suggests it possible.

Kelly Bryant won a lot of games for Clemson and then an injury forced Lawrence in and the rest is history. That could have been the case with JG and Maurer had Maurer not got beat up and exited consecutive games. I'm not saying that Maurer is better than JG either in that statement.

The good thing about our team is that if JG (If he doesn't transfer) goes down next year, Maurer will be a year wiser and bigger. We won't have to throw in a true freshman.

But who knows. I personally want Bailey to redshirt and play next year very minimal time. But who knows, Pruitt has shown that whoever practices the best will play.

No reason to think JG transfers but if he does, there will likely be an open battle because we will want whoever starts the OU game to get tons of reps in the season opener.

 

[butchna]

That extra something we’re missing? I believe this kid possesses it.

 

[Russdaddy2027]

I would love to see HB get to play clean up duty starting in the second quarter of four games and no more next year. This is contingent on the JG that has shown flashes having his best season yet.

 

[DiderotsGhost]

It's going to be a weird QB competition next year.

JG obviously has the leg-up right now, but there's a case for why all 5 scholarship QBs could win the job. I don't ever recall a situation similar to this.

JG. Most experienced. Strong arm. Typically doesn't make big mistakes (albeit he struggled in this department early in the season). Not going to take over a game by himself, but certainly capable of making big throws.

Maurer. Arguably the highest upside. Great scramber / improviser; has some Josh Dobbs like attributes. Most likely of the QBs to win a game that may otherwise be unwinnable. Biggest issue was turnovers and decision-making, but if he can get that under control, he may be the best QB on the roster.

Shrout. Arguably the highest upside for a pro-style passer. May have one of the strongest arms in college football. Still struggles with decision-making, but if Shrout improves his accuracy and limits his mistakes, he may also be the best QB on the roster.

Bailey. Blue-chip Freshman QB who put up very impressive numbers against good competition. Don't know how he'll adjust to the college game, but similar QBs out of Georgia have all fared very well (e.g. Fromm, Lawrence). Probably our most highly touted QB recruit since Peyton Manning.

Hill. Probably the least likely to win the job, but he does have a lot of experience as a starting QB. Biggest issue was accuracy and turnovers. Better scrambler than JG. I think he might've gotten a shot this year had he been eligible, but will be tougher for him to get playing time next year.

I still think JG wins the job, but we've seen over the past 2 years that he struggles with consistency. If Bailey comes in and looks as good as some think, he may take over. Also if Maurer comes back and cleans up his mistakes, he may take over. Then again, maybe things finally click for JG next year and we get more games like the SC, Miss State, and Mizzou games this year from him.

 

[cbatey1]

I think talent wise he will be ahead of the pack immediately but experience/physical wise is obviously different. I hope he gets some GOOD reps in 4 games next season and gets to redshirt. Not just complete mop up but some meaningful reps.

Now if he comes in and plays more than 4 games his freshman year then apparently he beat everyone else out and i'll be ok with that. Either way, I cant wait for the kid to get here!!

 

[Other_Guy]

Nailed it. It's healthy for the team and undesirable for every player.

Plus HB can play in four games and still RS. So it's a bit different these days. It's possible to get real help from a player who redshirts now

I didn't think of the RS.

 

[JCHateSteve]

He's has good numbers in high school in a very competitive conference and appears physically ready to play. He's also an early enrollee. Many think he'll win the job outright as a Freshman. I doubt it personally. My guess is there will be a competition in the spring, JG will end up either 1 or 2. Whoever ends up 3 between Maurer and Shrout will transfer. No matter who 1 and 2 are they will both play/start throughout the year, much like 2019. Hill will be the backup plan. We may see Bailey in the 4 games he can play in and still redshirt. He may even start the last 4 games of the year. But, I'd be shocked if Pruitt doesn't try to redshirt him. He will have to be way ahead of everyone else to start early, and I don't see that as likely to happen.

 

[GreyWolf1129]

I have watched Bailey play in the GHSA playoffs. He's legit. I think he competes for the starting job no later than his sophomore year. That being said, I also think the staff would prefer to bring him along slowly, and rely on the current QB's in-house in 2020. We'll have to wait and see if there are any transfers / early departures, but if there are none then UT Football has a good problem at QB entering 2020 spring practice. You figure it's Guarantano/Maurer for the #1 spot, and Shrout / Hill for #3. HB can grow up at his own pace, which would be the preferred path.

Let's hope we keep 'em all, and keep 'em all healthy, and enter the 2020 season with a well-stocked pantry at the QB spot.

Go Vols.

 

[Joe Dirt]

Bailey is a different caliber QB than what we have on the roster right now. Not only that, he's physically ready (actually had to trim down from 240 to 225 before his senior year).

Ultimately it comes down to how quickly he picks up the offense. He's an EE which helps, but if JG can run the offense better than HB by fall camp, then let's ride with JG!

That said, if HB picks up Chaney's offense quickly (and let's be honest, we all know he's had a copy of the playbook for a year by now) then I do think he gives our offense something it hasn't had in a decade -- a leader who can throw with anticipation, can read a defense pre-snap, and can go through his progressions in a hurry.

Whether it's year one or year two, he will win us some games.

 

[k-town_king]

This is exactly what is needed : competition. When JG had to come off the bench a few times and share playing time , he became better fast. We need more of it at every position

When JG got more comfortable with the playbook and his fourth oc he got better but I see the point you tried to make.

HB will be good. We are in great position.

He comes in like Tua or Trevor and starts or we have a four year starter who is finally having the same oc and o two years in a row.

Hill was terrible and is a non factor. BM had one good quarter. JTS is a non factor.

 

[k-town_king]

It's going to be a weird QB competition next year.

JG obviously has the leg-up right now, but there's a case for why all 5 scholarship QBs could win the job. I don't ever recall a situation similar to this.

JG. Most experienced. Strong arm. Typically doesn't make big mistakes (albeit he struggled in this department early in the season). Not going to take over a game by himself, but certainly capable of making big throws.

Maurer. Arguably the highest upside. Great scramber / improviser; has some Josh Dobbs like attributes. Most likely of the QBs to win a game that may otherwise be unwinnable. Biggest issue was turnovers and decision-making, but if he can get that under control, he may be the best QB on the roster.

Shrout. Arguably the highest upside for a pro-style passer. May have one of the strongest arms in college football. Still struggles with decision-making, but if Shrout improves his accuracy and limits his mistakes, he may also be the best QB on the roster.

Bailey. Blue-chip Freshman QB who put up very impressive numbers against good competition. Don't know how he'll adjust to the college game, but similar QBs out of Georgia have all fared very well (e.g. Fromm, Lawrence). Probably our most highly touted QB recruit since Peyton Manning.

Hill. Probably the least likely to win the job, but he does have a lot of experience as a starting QB. Biggest issue was accuracy and turnovers. Better scrambler than JG. I think he might've gotten a shot this year had he been eligible, but will be tougher for him to get playing time next year.

I still think JG wins the job, but we've seen over the past 2 years that he struggles with consistency. If Bailey comes in and looks as good as some think, he may take over. Also if Maurer comes back and cleans up his mistakes, he may take over. Then again, maybe things finally click for JG next year and we get more games like the SC, Miss State, and Mizzou games this year from him.

You could switch Maurer and Hill's evaluation and still be correct minus the amount of starts. Both struggle with accuracy and turnovers. Things that will keep them on the bench.

 

[EconVol92]

I don't think JG is the answer, his lows are much lower than his highs are high.

While I will always say that football is a team game you can't tell me that JG was not responsible for the BYU loss and the possible upset of Alabama.

This team should have won 9 games this year and a win over Bama would have been a huge get for this coaching staff in recruiting.

 

[Vol737]

We'll see who's been working out hard and studying film in the off season next this spring. TBH, I know it probably has to happen, but I hate to lose either BM or JTS. I think their ceiling is just higher with the right coaching.

 

[Tennesseefan2019]

I think Harrison Bailey will be another quality Tennessee quarterback like Casey Clausen

 

[DiderotsGhost]

You could switch Maurer and Hill's evaluation and still be correct minus the amount of starts. Both struggle with accuracy and turnovers. Things that will keep them on the bench.

While true, you could have said the same thing about Freshman Josh Dobbs.

In an ideal world, Maurer would've played nothing but garbage time this season, but he actually ended up playing against the toughest defenses on our schedule. Most Freshman would've looked bad in his position. I'm not saying he's going to win the job, but I am saying, if he continues to improve (the same way Dobbs did over time), he's going to be a very good college QB. Lot of "ifs" there though.

Fundamentally, Maurer looks pretty good. He's not there yet mentally, though, and both him and Shrout try to "force the issue" when nothing is there too often. That's something that can be fixed.

 

[GAVol]

You could switch Maurer and Hill's evaluation and still be correct minus the amount of starts. Both struggle with accuracy and turnovers. Things that will keep them on the bench.

I don’t think we can go there with Maurer since he’s a true freshman who shouldn’t have been forced to play in the first place. Most 18 year olds are going to look like he did.

 

[Ratvol]

I think Harrison Bailey will be another quality Tennessee quarterback like Casey Clausen

I hope you are right. If Casey had been our QB this season, we would have won at least 10 games.

GO VOLS!!!

 

[BigOrangeTrain]

I think Bailey will RS. I also believe that it’s the best case scenario for us.

 

[Pepe]

Nailed it. It's healthy for the team and undesirable for every player.

Plus HB can play in four games and still RS. So it's a bit different these days. It's possible to get real help from a player who redshirts now

Just don't burn his redshirt for place keeping duties. In other words if you put him in let him play.

 

[goldvol]

When it comes to Pruitt and QB's, this season taught us all we have no idea what is going to happen

 

[agent|orange]

It's going to be a weird QB competition next year.

JG obviously has the leg-up right now, but there's a case for why all 5 scholarship QBs could win the job. I don't ever recall a situation similar to this.

JG. Most experienced. Strong arm. Typically doesn't make big mistakes (albeit he struggled in this department early in the season). Not going to take over a game by himself, but certainly capable of making big throws.

Maurer. Arguably the highest upside. Great scramber / improviser; has some Josh Dobbs like attributes. Most likely of the QBs to win a game that may otherwise be unwinnable. Biggest issue was turnovers and decision-making, but if he can get that under control, he may be the best QB on the roster.

Shrout. Arguably the highest upside for a pro-style passer. May have one of the strongest arms in college football. Still struggles with decision-making, but if Shrout improves his accuracy and limits his mistakes, he may also be the best QB on the roster.

Bailey. Blue-chip Freshman QB who put up very impressive numbers against good competition. Don't know how he'll adjust to the college game, but similar QBs out of Georgia have all fared very well (e.g. Fromm, Lawrence). Probably our most highly touted QB recruit since Peyton Manning.

Hill. Probably the least likely to win the job, but he does have a lot of experience as a starting QB. Biggest issue was accuracy and turnovers. Better scrambler than JG. I think he might've gotten a shot this year had he been eligible, but will be tougher for him to get playing time next year.

I still think JG wins the job, but we've seen over the past 2 years that he struggles with consistency. If Bailey comes in and looks as good as some think, he may take over. Also if Maurer comes back and cleans up his mistakes, he may take over. Then again, maybe things finally click for JG next year and we get more games like the SC, Miss State, and Mizzou games this year from him.

Casey Clausen and James Banks were both 5* and Top 25 players.

 

[SandoVOL]

Don't forget HB is coming in as an early enrollee, big body, high football IQ, some people believe he is starter day 1. I wouldn't go that far but would not be surprised to see him with early PT in the season.