What makes UT attractive?

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#126
Your list is very thorough but I am talking about football schools with an actual chance to win their conference. I missed Ok.

Almost everyone else on your list is a basketball school or a perpetual non contender.

I am not disputing your list though. It's very accurate

I was simply naming football schools who a top coach would consider against us.
 
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#127
Night life is ample. Day drive to the beach.

Hunting, fishing (lake or river), camping, Gatlinburg, great people, low cost of living, traffic on non-game days isn't bad.

Also, it isn't Columbia, Starkville, Tuskaloosa, or some other awful campus town!
 
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SayUWantAreVOLution said:
Knox sucks to shop for the coach's wife and for education...... I guess Webb is still in Knox? Athens and Tusc suck too but ATL and Bham are close and good and reasonable, respectively.

Most SEC towns are weak to raise a family. I spent too much time, years ago, at Oxford while the ex was doing a residency/practice...... good food, these days I hear, but really not somewhere I'd live by choice.

The SEC appeals, sadly, to cornbread types. I've good friends who teach in both Columbus OH and Austin TX. Austin is light years more diverse and accepting than anything in the SEC. Columbus (suburbs) is a far better place to raise a family.
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Spoken like someone with no clue. Columbus? 😂
 
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SayUWantAreVOLution said:
This is why you can't recruit to Knox. Well, partially. Folks like this control Knoxville and Knoxville's development. I think they're still building strip malls and "toothpick townhouses" in Knoxville to this day. "Successful" folks like this are our big boosters..... a fuel station tycoon.

I've a friend in the Bay Area who makes me feel ancient when telling me of his son's successes with "self driving electric long haul trucks." I hope Jimmy invests in charging stations.

TN, the people AND the University, root themselves in the past. Fulmer's past..... maintains his job with his boosters.

I'll suggest that Mario Cristobal ABUSED Auburn for a bigger contract at Oregon knowing that Nike is more forward looking AND that weed is essentially legal in Oregon (never in the SEC for several years) AND no longer tested for in the NFL.

Mario is recruiting 5 years beyond the SEC....
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Yea tell us how great it is to live in the Bay Area with the high crime rate, high homelessness rate with feces patrols on the streets and stepping over used syringes
 
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AshG said:
I've now lived in East TN, coastal Mississippi, rural Michigan, and suburban Cleveland OH.

I will never live in Mississippi again. Nope. Definitely not while I have kids in school. Too damn racist and too damn hot.

It would be hard going back to East TN despite the family and friends who are there. My kids are now used to and want a level of diversity that just isn't available outside of small pockets of Knoxville, and the public school offerings they've used to aren't available in the public schools back home (we checked). There's only two main ways through town, and you're screwed if there's a wreck on one of them. And it's in the most restrictive medical insurance region in the country, which makes care harder and more expensive to get if you need special treatment.

And that sucks, because UT is my dream job.

Making bank as an athletic coach would definitely take the sting out of some of those issues, but not all. But quality of life outside of the job does play a part in decisions especially if there's family involved.
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It’s not the most medically restrictive if you actually have a good job or good insurance. And Knoxville and surrounding area Public schools are just fine as long as you don’t go to the Austin Easts, Fultons, Carters of the world. And if you think there is only two ways to get around Knoxville you must not have ever stayed here long
 
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SayUWantAreVOLution said:
I'm ridiculously old and can still see a recruit from, how shall I say this, a less than ideal upbringing who may have regularly indulged in more than a beer....... getting walked past a very legal recreational cannibus shop in Eugene with a lovely lady on his arm vs getting walked past multiple bars in Knox.

I'm old. Not dead. Ask your kids and grandkids what they'd want...... kush or cash.
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My kids want cash because they aren’t idiotic
 
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Why UT? You get overpaid to fail. Guaranteed on top of that. Who wouldn't want a seat at that table?
 
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Rickyvol77 said:
It’s not the most medically restrictive if you actually have a good job or good insurance. And Knoxville and surrounding area Public schools are just fine as long as you don’t go to the Austin Easts, Fultons, Carters of the world. And if you think there is only two ways to get around Knoxville you must not have ever stayed here long
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Lived and worked in the area for 20 years. I havea good handle on things.

It is extremely medically restrictive, even with good insurance. I know this the hard way. Several treatments that Medicaid Region 6 (which days the standard for what private insurance covers) deemed "excessive" (because I'm not diabetic) or experimental were covered immediately and without question in Michigan and Ohio. I am actually probably going to find a way to keep my left leg because the allowed standard of care by insurance is actually science driven rather than bean counter driven. My prosthetic right leg now has a vacuum pump and stays on during the day, another common thing Region 6 deemed "experimental".

I taught in the area, so I know the schools very well. My daughter is in a public elementary school with a full time deaf/HoH staff. They've converted her hearing aids into bluetooth receivers for her chromebook and a teachers microphone. If something doesn't work, there's trained staff on site daily. No need to attend a separate deaf school. My son is in Pre-Algebra in 6th grade with a full class and will be taking high school algebra in 7th grade. No knox county or surrounding county public school offers a full double accelerated curriculum like both my kids get.

And yes, despite living in the area for 20 years, I only know how to get from one end of the county to the other by Kingston, Middlebrook, and the interstate. I'm just not that adventurous and neither Google nor Apple seemed to take me any other way.
 
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#142
We ARE Tennessee!

Nothing else should need to be said.

New admin and big boosters getting their heads out of their (_)_) and simply do what's best for our sports programs should be the only real goals that count.

Keep the LIEberal politics OUT of the UT sports programs.

Just WIN and the $$$$ will start pouring back in again like it used to do.

We ARE Tennessee!!!

VFL...GBO!!!
 
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AshG said:
I've been here through four actual and a couple pretend coaching searches and have read quite a bit about the things that make UT and attractive place to coach and play and the things that turn off coaches and recruits. It's been a while, and I'm wondering what the consensus is on these issues.

My thoughts and understandings:
Positives
- Competes in the SEC
- Some of the top facilities in the country, with regular improvements being made
- The Grand Cathedral of College Football, Neyland Stadium
- Near several recruiting hot spots, and in state quality is improving
- Quality land grant institution
- Quality local schools (for coach's children)
- Local access to air travel

Negatives
- Seemingly constant University/AD turmoil
- Limited shopping
- Limited nightlife
- Distance to the beach, large city amenities and activities

What's on your list, and what can actually be fixed to make it a more attractive place overall?
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GREAT SMOKEY MOUNTAINS
 
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onevol74 said:
Typical, It is always the fans’ fault post.

So, what would be the difference in Tennessee, Alabama, and Georgia from your assessment? Because I do not see any.
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It is the fans fault. They are not bearing enough top talent each year......

Four and five star players from one service:

GA 27
FL 58
TN 11

FL should have their pick of at least 60% of instate kids as the centrally located lead dog in that state. FL ST and MIA splitting the rest
GA should have their pick of at least 70% of theirs with FSU and AU having some areas on borders
TN should have their pick of at least 70% of theirs with serious poaching from W. Tn to be expected.

DO the math. Then each school has to enter the regional and national markets for the rest. When winning big numbers can go up. You are going to lose some each year to kids and families allegiances etc. Of course you can win a few from other states the same way.

The good news is that after the rich make their picks we can go after those they don't select.

The most telling thing my LESS THAN COMPREHENSIVE review has found is the vulnerability TN has within their pool. The weakest area on our team this year to me was DL. Go look at how many of those we had this year in state. Zero.

All part of the deal, but hoping we can pull Malone and more during late signing or from the transfer portal. Kind of the the three ball in BB, living and dying by out of state can be costly, especially when not trending well. But a few winners can change all the dynamics.
 
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Witch Doctor say Knoxville dont even have good "magic herb" and the Catch One is gone.. Witch Doctor say want a big name coach, get piles and piles of cash ready for 2 years from now. BIG PILES of money this aint
no dream/destination job.

Bones Never Lie.
 
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