What kind of defense will Monte Kiffin use against Florida's spread option?

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#53
Really in all honesty, everyone struggles with the spread when you have skilled players.
 
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Los-Osis said:
Really in all honesty, everyone struggles with the spread when you have skilled players.
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That's the truth. Your best chance is to keep their guys turned inside and not let them get to the edge where their speed will kill ya.
 
#55
#55
I think he might use a 4-2-5.

UT has better players in the secondary then at LB.
I would take Reveiz out and use a faster DB.
Florida has a lot of speed.
I'm not sure what kind of coverage he will go with.
Maybe man to man and force Tebow to beat UT with the pass?
 
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#56
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Lots of games are won when the Defensive players consistently knock the player across from them on their behind on their way to drill the QB. Keep the pressure on Tebow and keep hitting him. All day. Bring the heat. That way, win or lose, he will know he's been hit.
 
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oklavol said:
You think he has a new defensive scheme against Florida's spread option?
He hasn't coached against an option in a long time but he did play for Nebraska, who ran it better then anybody.
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I have pretty good faith in Monte. But as long as he doesn't do the "Mustang" I should be ok.
 
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oklavol said:
I think he might use a 4-2-5.

UT has better players in the secondary then at LB.
I would take Reveiz out and use a faster DB.
Florida has a lot of speed.
I'm not sure what kind of coverage he will go with.
Maybe man to man and force Tebow to beat UT with the pass?
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Ahh, yes. The Nickel; D, I do think that is the best base-type D for this with Berry playing all over.
 
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oklavol said:
I've been waiting for a good DC to come up with a good scheme to dismantle the vaulted Florida spread option. I hope he's got something more planned.



Knocking Tebow out of the game has been on a few people's mind for sure, hasn't really happened though.
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The problem is he doesnt have the DEs and LBs to get the best results out of his scheme yet. At Tampa the way to beat the Bucs D was to run INSIDE.
 
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Los-Osis said:
Really in all honesty, everyone struggles with the spread when you have skilled players.
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I have a defense drawn up specifically for a situation like this. I call it "Operation Window", for a very good reason.

Back in WWII, the British discovered that a bomber group could drop a few hundred thousand tinfoil strips into the air, and on radar it would appear that there were thousands of bombers at multiple altitudes. This would wreak havoc on German defenses and theoretically allow the actual bombers to get through with minimal losses and minimal actual air-to-air combat.

They didn't use it because they knew Germany could use it against them and there was no way to defend against it. They were so scared of it being used that they actually shelved the project and destroyed all the documents related to it.

Fast forward a few years. Britain develops a radar system that uses longer wavelengths and is able to see through clouds of tinfoil strips. The project, named Operation Window, is approved by Churchill himself. Britain uses it with absolutely phenomenal results.

Why do I call this defense by the name? Because if it were used to combat Florida this game, it would be used against Tennessee the next game. So it's just going to stay right here...partially in my head, partially on my computer.
 
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Ohio Vol said:
Why do I call this defense by the name? Because if it were used to combat Florida this game, it would be used against Tennessee the next game. So it's just going to stay right here...partially in my head, partially on my computer.
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Be honest. You're just embarrassed to admit that the defense in your head is the Wide Tackle 6 from the 1960s. :)
 
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GAVol said:
Be honest. You're just embarrassed to admit that the defense in your head is the Wide Tackle 6 from the 1960s. :)
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Nah, it's the old Jet defense (6-3-2 personnel).

Corners play head-up on the ends. Backers play off the guards and center. DLs set up over the tackle, tight end, and wingback position.

Believe it or not, I actually saw Oklahoma State try this around 1995 against Nebraska. I think Nebraska won by 67.
 
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rjd970 said:
Amen. The spelling and grammar police are irritating to no end. It's a message board, they need to get over themselves.
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If you cannot spell the name of the coaches this long after they came here, you do not care that much about this program to pay attention or you are not that bright.

If you do not know how to spell Arie Kouandjio you are just a normal human being who is not obsessed with every possible OL recruit.
 
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MikeHamiltonFan said:
If you cannot spell the name of the coaches this long after they came here, you do not care that much about this program to pay attention or you are not that bright.

If you do not know how to spell Arie Kouandjio you are just a normal human being who is not obsessed with every possible OL recruit.
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But that's not what your post is about, spelling corrections, is it? It's about someone insulting someone else because they had a misspelled name in their post. The truth is you're a jerk, aren't you?
 
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tums said:
I have pretty good faith in Monte. But as long as he doesn't do the "Mustang" I should be ok.
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Yeah 6 DB's are a lot, but against 5 WR's in a spread offense might be necessary.

tums said:
Ahh, yes. The Nickel; D, I do think that is the best base-type D for this with Berry playing all over.
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:good!:

Ulysees E. McGill said:
The problem is he doesnt have the DEs and LBs to get the best results out of his scheme yet. At Tampa the way to beat the Bucs D was to run INSIDE.
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LB's are the weakest group on the defense this year. With the Tampa MLB often dropping back in pass coverage it made easier for teams to run inside?
 
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Florida runs a lot of different formations. Here are the problems they pose:

If Monte runs a nickel as the base defense that day, UF will come out with 2 RB's and Hernandez lined up wide, and then just move him into the backfield as a HB to give the Gators an extra blocker. They tear people up in the run game in that scenario.

If Monte Stays 4-3 then UF will just line up with 2 RB's but then motion Demps or James to the outside and suddenly the 4-3 is matched up against 4 wide.

The best defense is probably a 3-3-5. UF uses a 335 package and they call it Joker. They use it against spread teams and bring 8 guys to the LOS with maybe only 2 guys putting their hands on the ground. So the opposition never knows where the rush is coming from.

One play it might be 3 linemen, a lB and a CB, then the next, it could be both safties.

THe big key though: You really have to mix it up and you have to play good assignment football with NO missed tackles.
 
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Monte will use Rod Wilks on defense, that should be enough, no need for the other 10 players or defensive schemes
 
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Help me out here. I'm looking for a comment Orgeron may have made yesterday (I think). I heard a snippet on the radio this morning. It was something to the effect of, "our first two plays [against Florida] need to be personal fouls". Did anyone else hear or read it somewhere? Post a link, please.
 
#73
#73
I think Monte will give a bunch of different looks. Nothing as aggressive as we saw against UCLA but he will mix in different stunts. If we can provide decent coverage without Berry I would expect you see him set up close as a roving spy. If we get beat downfield once or twice all bets are off and he goes back playing the long ball and crossing routes.
 
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