What it takes to win... Incredible Stats

[PeytonBerry]

Saw this on TOS.

In the 2nd Half of Five SEC Game:


Tennessee has had 14 Opportunities to tie or take the lead. They have failed to score in all 14. Not just do what it takes to tie or take the lead... score at all.


They have run the ball a total of 19 times during those drives.


They have passed the ball 37 times during those drive.


Those plays have gone for 12 first downs.


They have resulted in 6 turnovers.


Six of the drives resulted in 3 & Outs'.


Only two drives went for more than 1 first down.


The longest drive was 3:38 (final drive against USCe)


Average time of each drive was 1:47 (with the two final drives against USCe & UGA removed as outliers)

 

[DC Vol]

Clearly our stalls on those drives are because:

Mulligrubs.
Depth.
Talent.
Experience.
Other opponents being tough.

We can't expect Dooley to show this program moving in the right direction by Year 3̶ ̶2̶.̶5̶ ̶2̶ 1.5.

Second season? I can't tell what year or season we're in with this staff. Golly gee that Dooley guy sure is smart...what with talking circles around us dumb fans.

 

[Cyclopskiller]

Cheney!

 

[DERELICK_MY_VOLS]

Dooley and this team need to read this book......maybe it will help them all get over this mental hurdle they have.

 

[OrangeByBirth]

Late drives to tie or win are usually clock driven. I can understand the short times and the pass happy part. What bothers me is that I don't think they are limited to late drives. The offensive play selection doesn't even try to "shorten the game" by using up clock when it would make sense to do so and the defense doesn't stop anything at any time or any place.

 

[winchestervol63]

Late drives to tie or win are usually clock driven. I can understand the short times and the pass happy part. What bothers me is that I don't think they are limited to late drives. The offensive play selection doesn't even try to "shorten the game" by using up clock when it would make sense to do so and the defense doesn't stop anything at any time or any place.

Feel your pain. But there's just not many times when you want to shorten the game when you're behind, and we very often are. Last time we lead was just before the half against UGA and it lasted about a minute and a half, I think.

No question that you're right about the defense. Since we can't punt worth a crap consistently and can't play defense, I'm in favor of never punting again this year, outside of our 40 or so. Ever. Run the ball against these teams, who ought to be overmatched up front. 3rd and 3? Two running downs to get it, unless they load up the box.

I'd rather take more chances with the OLine and less with the punter and defense going forward, personally.

 

[andyleblanc]

Those stats are pretty interesting. It tells me that we don't have people making plays when they matter most. Success breeds success and failure breeds failure. We have to succeed in one of those situations to start with and I think that will lead to more successful experiences down the road. I wondering how many of those players have 100% confidence that they will put the ball in the endzone or make that big stop when it matters most.
Its like saying your gonna start exercising again. Its really tough to start but once you do it a couple of times it gets much easier and a part of who you are....

 

[chattavol420]

One thing is for sure after 1.76835 seasons on the job (his number not mine)Dooley doesn't know how to instill a culture of winning. It is something few coaches are capable of.

 

[Ned Ray McWorkher]

Welcome. The one good performance we had was when we scored early against NCSU. In all the league losses we had to come from behind, except Florida. In the Florida game we could have went up two scores twice 14-7 & 20-13. Failed both times. Our offense has great stats but takes too long to get going. Has really cost us this season.

 

[DERELICK_MY_VOLS]

Welcome. The one good performance we had was when we scored early against NCSU. In all the league losses we had to come from behind, except Florida. In the Florida game we could have went up two scores twice 14-7 & 20-13. Failed both times. Our offense has great stats but takes too long to get going. Has really cost us this season.

IMO it is all on our

 

[Ned Ray McWorkher]

IMO it is all on our

Fair enough. BUT, if we could give them a few points to work with it would better. Playing from behind is tough.

 

[DERELICK_MY_VOLS]

Fair enough. BUT, if we could give them a few points to work with it would better. Playing from behind is tough.

I hear you bro. But if the damn defense would actually stop the opponents on some of there first few drives....ahh to hell with it....shoulda coulda woulda....ain't happening anyway lol:

 

[TBtheGBwiththeTD]

Fair enough. BUT, if we could give them a few points to work with it would better. Playing from behind is tough.

I agree we havnt been clutch at all, but throughout the game in almost every game (minus second half Florida, and basically all of Bama) we have put up enough points to expect to win. Our D is definitely the biggest issue. I think it's a combination of bad luck and poor execution under pressure that have doomed us in tight game scenarios, but to be in so many with such a terrible defense is something to be slightly impressed with to be honest.

 

[ImportedVoL]

So your saying that trying to put together a last minute drive is hard to do? I mean no wonder no one wants to be in that situation. Time on the clock limiting what you can call and do with the ball sure does give a defense the upper hand since they pretty much know what your gonna have to do with the ball.. by golly gee I never would have thought that a last minute comeback is the hardest thing in football to do..

Seriously gimme a break, The defense should step up and stop making the offense have to make these amazing comebacks to even be in the game at the end. The fact we have had to try it 14 times should give you a clue...

P.S. Could someone explain to me why we need another thread attacking our football team instead of trying to show them even an ounce of support?

How about a good job for even being in the position to tie or go ahead at the end of the game, when last year we were getting blown out by those same teams.

I would much rather see our guys keep fighting and have a chance at the end, then just give up at half time.

 

[Eddie Vol Halen]

Saw this on TOS.

In the 2nd Half of Five SEC Game:


Tennessee has had 14 Opportunities to tie or take the lead. They have failed to score in all 14. Not just do what it takes to tie or take the lead... score at all.

They have run the ball a total of 19 times during those drives.


They have passed the ball 37 times during those drive.


Those plays have gone for 12 first downs.


They have resulted in 6 turnovers.


Six of the drives resulted in 3 & Outs'.


Only two drives went for more than 1 first down.


The longest drive was 3:38 (final drive against USCe)


Average time of each drive was 1:47 (with the two final drives against USCe & UGA removed as outliers)

And people keep saying its not Dooley-Chaney.

I wrote a qualitative thread about just this phenomenon, but quantitative evidence is money.

 

[vols-1]

Seems Dooley has a lot of stats that are "0- for.."

 

[orangebloodgmc]

Feel your pain. But there's just not many times when you want to shorten the game when you're behind, and we very often are. Last time we lead was just before the half against UGA and it lasted about a minute and a half, I think.

No question that you're right about the defense. Since we can't punt worth a crap consistently and can't play defense, I'm in favor of never punting again this year, outside of our 40 or so. Ever. Run the ball against these teams, who ought to be overmatched up front. 3rd and 3? Two running downs to get it, unless they load up the box.

I'd rather take more chances with the OLine and less with the punter and defense going forward, personally.[/QUOTE]

Good point.

 

[Neylandsmaxims]

UT just finds a way to lose. Totally not Dooley's fault.

 

[Escape Goat]

Disgusted with the post. I liked it for the time it took you to dig up the info, and type it.

Saw this on TOS.

In the 2nd Half of Five SEC Game:


Tennessee has had 14 Opportunities to tie or take the lead. They have failed to score in all 14. Not just do what it takes to tie or take the lead... score at all.


They have run the ball a total of 19 times during those drives.


They have passed the ball 37 times during those drive.


Those plays have gone for 12 first downs.


They have resulted in 6 turnovers.


Six of the drives resulted in 3 & Outs'.


Only two drives went for more than 1 first down.


The longest drive was 3:38 (final drive against USCe)


Average time of each drive was 1:47 (with the two final drives against USCe & UGA removed as outliers)

 

[VaVol4life]

IMO it is all on our

This^^^^^^ Defense wins games and championships. Its that simple. Not allowing opponents to score is critical at any level of football. That is why the Big 10, Big 12, and PAC 12 struggle when competing with the majority of SEC teams. Defense is the key.

This season we have scored enough points in a number of games to win. Defense hasn't held opponents out of the end zone enough.

After re-reading this I will brace for the "Thanks Captain Obvious response" But still its D E F E N S E

 

[Ned Ray McWorkher]

I blame Dooley. He should have went in and threw the ball. I mean he is the head coach. Should have went in and blocked too. Hell, he is the head coach. Damn Dooley. I am starting to get pissed with you.

 

[bignewt]

Its the lack of TEAM strategy. Our offensive philosophy does not help our defense. Throwing deep on 3rd and short having hurry up 3 and outs when our D is on the ropes. You have to have a defense and offense that mesh and it seems like we have zero of that and THAT is on the head coach.

 

[ImportedVoL]

why this quest to blame the offense? Wouldn't the fact we have had to do this 14 times point you towards defense?

So the offense is not as clutch as we would like them be.. The fact remains we put up plenty of offense every game, more then enough to secure wins IF had had a defense worth a damn.

I just really do not understand this campaign to blast our offense and players. Everyone is entitled to their opinion I guess, but I dont see the point..


I vote we try giving the players some support instead of acting so classless.

 

[whobethis16]

So your saying that trying to put together a last minute drive is hard to do? I mean no wonder no one wants to be in that situation. Time on the clock limiting what you can call and do with the ball sure does give a defense the upper hand since they pretty much know what your gonna have to do with the ball.. by golly gee I never would have thought that a last minute comeback is the hardest thing in football to do..

Seriously gimme a break, The defense should step up and stop making the offense have to make these amazing comebacks to even be in the game at the end. The fact we have had to try it 14 times should give you a clue...

P.S. Could someone explain to me why we need another thread attacking our football team instead of trying to show them even an ounce of support?

How about a good job for even being in the position to tie or go ahead at the end of the game, when last year we were getting blown out by those same teams.

I would much rather see our guys keep fighting and have a chance at the end, then just give up at half time.

That stat does not say it is late in the game only. The first drive after halftime down 14-7 (hypothetically) counts as well. How is that on the defense?

 

[MADISONGAVOL]

Saw this on TOS.

In the 2nd Half of Five SEC Game:


Tennessee has had 14 Opportunities to tie or take the lead. They have failed to score in all 14. Not just do what it takes to tie or take the lead... score at all.


They have run the ball a total of 19 times during those drives.


Running the ball more would take some pressure off Bray. I don't know how many times and how many people say he does too much trying to make a play. But hey i don't make quarter mil a year so coaches don't need to listen to me or anyone else