What is the vols natural rank

#27
#27
Well Knoxville has to be a helluva lot better of a place to live and go to school than more than half of the SEC schools locations, I mean Tuscalooserville is a arm pit and IMO Columbia just sucks yea both of them. As bad as it hurts to say it Floriduh is really the only place I can think that students should want to go and that just cause obviously it's in Florida. Don't get me wrong I've saw some of these campus's and some have really beautiful features but I'm a VOL so none can hold anlightbto Knoxville.

Gainesvul ain't on the beach. It's over an hour to St. Augustine through back country. Several of my in-laws live or lived there in Gainesvul. Had to visit often. Absolutely nothing but saw palmetto and pine trees and stinking dirty sandy soil outside the city. Other than flatland Florida. The ONLY geological thing to go see is a humongous sinkhole called The Devil's Millhopper.

I hate the place.
 
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#28
#28
Wtf? Seriously? A Pat Summitt run has never been done in college football. Use your head FFS. It just amazes me the lack of intelligence that people on this board have.

Geez lighten up...the argument could be made that Alabama has enjoyed similar success. Pat out recruited, outcoached and played on a different level, almost shocking when they lost...like Alabama in football
 
#29
#29
Number 1 is what the people in charge should think. But we know how that's going.
 
#31
#31
I agree with most, top 15-25 each year should be the expectation with a shot at the SEC East Championship every recruiting cycle (3-5 years)...competing at the top of the division every single year!
Competeing at the top of the SECe (1,2,or3) every year will get Top 15 or better.

With the losses the SEC took in bowls this year pollsters no longer see the SEC as the top conference. Other conferences will find it easier to occupy higher starting positions in the polls. This will make it harder for SEC teams to hang in the Top 10 (or even Top 25) as we have over the last several years keeping 6 or 8 teams ranked. Think about that, one conference placing 1/3 of the Top 25 teams. Parity? Wheel of Football? I don't know.

Tennessee can and should be competitive for the SECe most every year barring significant injuries like we had this year. (Ah shaddup all you "excuses, excuses, excuses guys..injuries, even a few to key players can sink a season. I'm 65 and I say and ours were pretty much biblical this year.)

If we're competitive for the East, we'll go to the SEC CG every few years, and win some of them. That should put us right in the mix for one of the top four spots. After that, only God knows.
 
#32
#32
I have never read a post on here from someone being serious if he or she said we should be playing for a national title every year. Tennessee with the resources it has and the tradition should be a top 10-15 team just about every year. I also think that TN should be playing for the SECC once every 4-5 years. This is my opinion, but Tennessee as a team has everything it needs to be a top 10 program, but our administration and coaching have not been there to facilitate it.

Agreed but things are slowly improving. It may not be at the speed it needs to be but it is.
 
#33
#33
I agree with most, top 15-25 each year should be the expectation with a shot at the SEC East Championship every recruiting cycle (3-5 years)...competing at the top of the division every single year!

I'd say top 10-15 each year, compete for East title/championship EVERY single year, win it every 2-3 years and win the SEC title every 4-5 years.
 
#35
#35
We should be in the SEC championship once every 3 years. The rest will sort itself out. Would like at least one NC in my lifetime. Hopefully soon.
 
#38
#38
Have fun enjoying mediocrity kiddo. I expect better from a prestigious program such as ours.

I'm in on that. UT is prestigious. I expect more too. That doesn't mean I lose my cool when they don't win. I expect them to win every game, that's not realistic but it is so much fun. For the season, no NC, so 0-1. As for the wins we were short by 6. As for the losses, we were over by 4. We did win 9. They were so exciting. 3 of the 4 losses were very competitive.

This year I'm adjusting my prediction. 16-1. See you in Knoxville

Just decide to be unrealistic and find the silver lining.

Nobody is saying being positive is normal. It takes effort, lots of effort. Try it. It's pretty cool.

Release the Beast!
 
#40
#40
True Saban will leave .
Dabo takes over Alabama
They keep the momentum going
While Tenn struggles for coaches Alabama reloads in coaches and players
Umm. Alabama reloaded coaches several times before saban and they were at best mediocre.
 
#41
#41
I-A Winning Percentage 1926-2016

Only went back to 1926 because Tennessee didn't really start playing football until Neyland took over.

Vols are 699-284-33 (.70423)which is good for 7th best all time. But, realize, prior to Mike Hamilton the athletic dept (and destroyed it), UT was #1 in the nation since 1926.
 
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#42
#42
i don't know anyone that expects national championships every year. if there are, then i probably wouldn't engage in conversations with them anyway.

tennessee should expect to be one of the 3 teams in it's division that's regularly competing for its division and conf titles. considering FL and GA also recruit, compete and expect similarly(if not a little better than), and history kind of bears this out, then i think it's fair to say that TN should expect to be in the conf title game 2-3 times per 10 years. should probably be no worse than 5-3 in the conf in any given year, considering the quality of the division and our cross division rival at the moment.

and we should be able to expect not to go on 1/2 decade or decade+ long losing streaks to what we consider our primary conf rivals.
 
#44
#44
Well, glad you seen so much!

Wouldn't want to live in Nashville or Gainesville. Anywhere else would be nice. Been through MS, been to NO, Tuscaloosa, AU, AR, KY, Columbia, San Antonio/Houston area, and Athens. Of all of them, Athens ranks up there with Knoxville. The others are fine. Nashville sucks and Gainesville is worse.
 
#45
#45
We should never finish out of the top 25 in a down year, and should finish in the top 10 most years. We should be in position to compete for a National Championship about once a decade.
 
#46
#46
Well Knoxville has to be a helluva lot better of a place to live and go to school than more than half of the SEC schools locations, I mean Tuscalooserville is a arm pit and IMO Columbia just sucks yea both of them. As bad as it hurts to say it Floriduh is really the only place I can think that students should want to go and that just cause obviously it's in Florida. Don't get me wrong I've saw some of these campus's and some have really beautiful features but I'm a VOL so none can hold anlightbto Knoxville.

:loco: :lolabove:

You really need to get outta town more!! And do I think a top heavily recruited football player is going to choose a school based on the town! :loco:
 
#47
#47
  • SEC East Title - Every 3 to 5 years (Once a recruiting cycle, 4 to 6 times each 20 years)
  • SEC Championship - Every 6 to 10 years (Alabama won't reign supreme forever, so we should win the conference about half the time we play in Atlanta)
  • National Title - Every 25 to 45 years (Let's face it; Tennessee has never been a school that minted national titles. With four playoff teams, I think we'd go to the playoff upon winning the conference more times than not and win it all once every four trips or so. The more teams that compete, the more of a crapshoot winning it all will become for the Vols)

We could make a home run hire after Butch and get lucky enough to win the SEC every other year or so, but that kind of success isn't really sustainable when at least 11 programs in the conference believe that they should be competitive enough to win their division and SEC more than once a decade and spend as such. Given that there are about 30 programs nationally that believe they should be competing for a playoff birth, expecting to win it all on an even semi-regular basis is just foolhardy. Tennessee has enough pedigree to win 2 national titles over the next 100 years at bare minimum, 4 to 6 national titles "realistically" and 10+ national titles only if we can score a generational hire.
 
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