What is the real issue with JG?

#76
#76
northknoxvol said:
I remember standing in the stadium at gametime
Trying to get my hopes up
There was this 5th year qb who they wont sit down
I hate to watch him do his stuff
Through the long losing nights he makes plays to get us beat
He makes 1 good play in a thousand and shoots his arrow at our feet
Down on JG street
In the ball game, he holds it and he drops it
when the defense puts him on his back
When he throws a pick six for the second time
Our team justs lets them run on by
Unlike all the other qbs, he looks lost on 3rd down and its incomplete
As he makes his way to the sidelines after another 3 and out
Down on JG Street
And sometimes even now, when were feeling lonely and beat
Jeremy says we've closed the gap and war daddies have been added to the sheet
Down on JG Street
Down on JG Street
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you people are just sad
 
#81
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MWAVolfan said:
Spring game means nothing. and Pruitt would play the best QB he has. BM did nothing last year in games to make me think he's head and shoulders better than JG. I maintain until proven otherwise that Tennessee doesnt have a QB on the roster that can compete with the best QBs in the SEC, or even mid-tier SEC QBs. If BM comes in and throws for 400 yards and 4 TDs at some point then we can revisit this.
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So throwing for over 200 in a half vs UGA in his first action as a true freshman wasn’t enough? It didn’t at least show you the lights were not too bright? If you need to see more then how about Miss St the following week before landing on his head? If that still didn’t convince you then the following week vs Alabama should have.

It’s unfortunate that Brian had that freak accident vs Miss St that derailed what was already in progress. But what you DID see should’ve told you that Pruitt is either 1) FOS and KNOWS Brian is better or 2)Has no clue what he’s talking about with the qb position. Either way his pride is hurting the team and your avatar shows exactly how this fan base feels including yourself. Go ahead and keep believing someone that’s shown dishonesty and you’ll keep that bag over your head.
 
#82
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MWAVolfan said:
Pruitt has been quite clear this whole time but people just dont listen. JG is the best QB we have. Pruitt and his staff have done an abominable job of recruiting and developing QBs and that has led to this point. WE HAVE NO QB WORTH A DAMN. I dont care how many stars HB has. Clearly he isnt that good or he's be starting. Same with BM and Shrout.

As soon as people get comfortable with the face that UT has been a miserable failure at getting a QB, the faster we can move on from Pruitt.

People can say all they want that Pruitt isnt giving these guys a chance to take the job from JG. I dont believe it. I think they all suck and Pruitt goes to bed every night knowing this fact. With the new red shirt rules and everyone getting an extra year of eligibility theres no reason for Pruitt to hold back on a young QB unless that young QB just isn't that good.
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Then why doesn’t the idiot Pruitt do something about it? Why can’t Weinke or Cheney recruit the type of QB to run their offense? You can believe the BS you wrote but if Maurer or Bailey went to another SEC school they’d light UT up in 2 years. JG is a practice wiz but sucks when the pressure on. I can’t wait until JG is gone or Pruitt is fired. Both are pathetic.
 
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VolRage said:
Then why doesn’t the idiot Pruitt do something about it? Why can’t Weinke or Cheney recruit the type of QB to run their offense? You can believe the BS you wrote but if Maurer or Bailey went to another SEC school they’d light UT up in 2 years. JG is a practice wiz but sucks when the pressure on. I can’t wait until JG is gone or Pruitt is fired. Both are pathetic.
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Even when we wer getting blown out vs Alabama, he only let the backups play a couple drives.

What does he owe JG? That's the question.
 
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#85
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The real issue is that he just can’t process the game fast enough to be an SEC QB...and unfortunately that’s not something that coaching can really fix (IMO)...he also doesn’t seem to grasp what “down and distance” mean and while that might be coachable he’s way past the point of being coached up. To me, it’s like he wants to win the game on every play instead of understanding the need to just win each play.
He’s got some decent physical skills - throws a great fade - but a QB has to be able to read and react quickly and must understand what’s needed on each play.
 
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1vol8 said:
So throwing for over 200 in a half vs UGA in his first action as a true freshman wasn’t enough? It didn’t at least show you the lights were not too bright? If you need to see more then how about Miss St the following week before landing on his head? If that still didn’t convince you then the following week vs Alabama should have.

It’s unfortunate that Brian had that freak accident vs Miss St that derailed what was already in progress. But what you DID see should’ve told you that Pruitt is either 1) FOS and KNOWS Brian is better or 2)Has no clue what he’s talking about with the qb position. Either way his pride is hurting the team and your avatar shows exactly how this fan base feels including yourself. Go ahead and keep believing someone that’s shown dishonesty and you’ll keep that bag over your head.
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BM threw two terrible redzone INTs against MSU. That game is not going to help your argument lol.
 
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LandonVFL said:
BM threw two terrible redzone INTs against MSU. That game is not going to help your argument lol.
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If you read my original response to him you’ll see that I acknowledged that he needs to get better with decision making which will come in time. However that game otherwise is a great example of his abilities. They had no answer for him on the ground nor in the air. At this point it’s not about who can come in and look like a seasoned vet. It’s about who gives you the best chance in the future.
 
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1vol8 said:
If you read my original response to him you’ll see that I acknowledged that he needs to get better with decision making which will come in time. However that game otherwise is a great example of his abilities. They had no answer for him on the ground nor in the air. At this point it’s not about who can come in and look like a seasoned vet. It’s about who gives you the best chance in the future.
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I like BMs confidence, and I’m surprised he hasn’t really got his chance this year yet. Just based of the JG reruns, it seems like they don’t have confidence in BM to lead the offense how they want yet. Which is either an indictment on the coaches for development or BM hasn’t show them he can play clean. The only way we’ll really know if BM has improved decision making is if he gets playing time to show it. If JG comes out and looks awful against Arkansas they should give BM the entire game and see what happens. I’m not a huge fan of giving the back up one possession then going back to the lame duck.
 
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whodeycin85 said:
How many points did those 2 INTs give MSU??
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That’s not really the point lol. The point is UT didn’t get any points as a result of those poor decisions. If you’re in the redzone you gotta come away with points. That game turned out the way we wanted, but the INTs didn’t help.
 
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LandonVFL said:
I like BMs confidence, and I’m surprised he hasn’t really got his chance this year yet. Just based of the JG reruns, it seems like they don’t have confidence in BM to lead the offense how they want yet. Which is either an indictment on the coaches for development or BM hasn’t show them he can play clean. The only way we’ll really know if BM has improved decision making is if he gets playing time to show it. If JG comes out and looks awful against Arkansas they should give BM the entire game and see what happens. I’m not a huge fan of giving the back up one possession then going back to the lame duck.
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That’s just it though. BM can play “clean” but he’s never going to be a safe qb. If that’s what Pruitt is wanting he’s WAY off on recruiting because none of them are “safe”. They’re gunslingers.
 
#94
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LandonVFL said:
That’s not really the point lol. The point is UT didn’t get any points as a result of those poor decisions. If you’re in the redzone you gotta come away with points. That game turned out the way we wanted, but the INTs didn’t help.
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He made bad decisions because he took chances. Jg can’t put points on the board because he won’t take chances. Which do we want because we can’t have both.
 
#95
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LandonVFL said:
That’s not really the point lol. The point is UT didn’t get any points as a result of those poor decisions. If you’re in the redzone you gotta come away with points. That game turned out the way we wanted, but the INTs didn’t help.
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Point is I'll take redzone INTs over midfield pick 6s..
JG doesny throw EZ ints because we are almost never in the redzone with him as QB...between MSU and KY...BM lead more drives to the RZ then JG...
 
#96
#96
Personally I don’t think there is any “issue” with JG.

By now we should all know what Tennessee has in him.

He isn’t greatness, sometimes he isn’t even decent.....he can be bad. Many times he is serviceable......that’s about it.

He simply isn’t good. He can be decent. He can be bad. He probably isn’t going to win you the game; however he may just lose you the game.

It is what it is.
 
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1vol8 said:
That’s just it though. BM can play “clean” but he’s never going to be a safe qb. If that’s what Pruitt is wanting he’s WAY off on recruiting because none of them are “safe”. They’re gunslingers.
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I have no problem with gunslingers. Favre is my favorite QB to ever play the game. But you’re right, if Pruitt doesn’t like that style, then it’s on him for recruiting that guy then not playing him as a result. As much as I loved Favre, he would gut punch you sometimes and lose game cause of how he played. But he also won games cause of it. It’s hard for those type of players, but there’s definitely times where you need to try and reel it in and make the less flashy smart plays. The redzone is primarily what I’m talking about. Your chances of winning decrease considerably when you get to the redzone and come away with nothing.
 
#98
#98
LandonVFL said:
I have no problem with gunslingers. Favre is my favorite QB to ever play the game. But you’re right, if Pruitt doesn’t like that style, then it’s on him for recruiting that guy then not playing him as a result. As much as I loved Favre, he would gut punch you sometimes and lose game cause of how he played. But he also won games cause of it. It’s hard for those type of players, but there’s definitely times where you need to try and reel it in and make the less flashy smart plays. The redzone is primarily what I’m talking about. Your chances of winning decrease considerably when you get to the redzone and come away with nothing.
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I agree but I bet if you found a statistic that showed the probability of winning without ever getting in the red zone that your chances of winning are much smaller. Brian GOT the team into the red zone on a regular basis. JG does not and his record as a starter speaks volumes to that fact.
 
#99
#99
1vol8 said:
I agree but I bet if you found a statistic that showed the probability of winning without ever getting in the red zone that your chances of winning are much smaller. Brian GOT the team into the red zone on a regular basis. JG does not and his record as a starter speaks volumes to that fact.
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You're mistaking me for a JG lover. The dude sucks, no doubt about it. It’s just there must be a deeper issue to the QB situation since JG is the guy Pruitt keeps sending out there week I week out. In my opinion, the reason he keeps sending JG out there is the decision making aspect of it. I root for JG cause he dons the Orange, but it really is a weird frustrating debate as to why he is “our best chance to win.”
 
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#100
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Biggest issue is that BM had some brain damage last year. Had the concussion never happened you likely never see JG except in clean up time. With the offseason issues BM had it somewhat hampered Pruitt and Chaney on who they could go with. HB had issues as far as practice goes. So honestly it kind of left them with JG or JT. I guess just based on game experience JG won out. I think you likely would have seen some changes had those things not happen.
 
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