what is the measure of successful enough to make you happy?

#77
#77
volfan102455 said:
9 wins year 1 should be possible. Not sure why all of you are saying year 2 or 3.

Now if half the team transfers ... yes. But if most of the team stays and offense / defense is geared towards the strength of the players there is no reason why the talent on this team can't produce wins.
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#78
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volfan102455 said:
9 wins year 1 should be possible. Not sure why all of you are saying year 2 or 3.

Now if half the team transfers ... yes. But if most of the team stays and offense / defense is geared towards the strength of the players there is no reason why the talent on this team can't produce wins.
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Your expectations are way to high. The whole culture of Tennessee football has to change. Pruitt acknowledged that. Our team is slow, weak and undisciplined. That is going to take some time to fix.

Anyone expecting Pruitt to win more than 6 games next year is being unfair imo.
 
#79
#79
Just having a team that competes with anyone.
Win all games he is supposed to.
Winning the east within 4 years.
If that happens I'd say success after the past decade.
 
#80
#80
Prove to be dangerous. Go on the road and beat a team better than you are, at least in terms of rankings and in the top 25. This speaks to his remarks to being a team others don't want to play. Host a team considered your equal at home and beat them soundly for 4 quarters. Reach the SECCG every few (I'll take less :)) years, and be in the conversation late in the year as once established. While they don't win it every year, Alabama, auburn, tOSU, Michigan state, Wisconsin, Oklahoma etc. show up and play for it every 2-3 years. Be dangerous. If so then you're doing something right in terms of recruiting, player development, and coaching. We haven't been dangerous for a long time.
 
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volfan102455 said:
9 wins year 1 should be possible. Not sure why all of you are saying year 2 or 3.

Now if half the team transfers ... yes. But if most of the team stays and offense / defense is geared towards the strength of the players there is no reason why the talent on this team can't produce wins.
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Love these dreamers:eek:lol:
 
#83
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BigOrangeTrain said:
Your expectations are way to high. The whole culture of Tennessee football has to change. Pruitt acknowledged that. Our team is slow, weak and undisciplined. That is going to take some time to fix.

Anyone expecting Pruitt to win more than 6 games next year is being unfair imo.
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If he is able to get the players focused, with the right staff, there are 9 winnable games on the schedule.
 
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The new HC is not into looking back or making excuses. He is into winning and moving forward. My bet is that he expects to win more than 6 games next year. So should we.
 
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lawgator1 said:
First, I agree with the sentiment that you should give Pruitt a solid chance to be successful. Same in my mind with Mullen.

But what does that mean, "to be successful"? Are thrre objective criteria, ie he must have 10 wins/season by year three? He must win the division by year three and the conference by year five? He just has to beat Alabama and Florida? Make the playoffs?

I'd say for UF fans, the measures are 1) a top 10 offense within three years; 2) win the conference and make the playoffs by year four.

Not sure how realistic that is, but there you go.
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I would like to be competing for the division in year 3 (not necessarily win division), and competing for conference in year 5 (win division, but not necessarily conference). After that, it we should be in competition for the SEC every year, much like the 90's. Even if we don't win, it's close.

And I'm a glass half empty guy, so this should be floor, not ceiling.
 
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volfan102455 said:
This ^^^^

Not understanding why folks are making excuses.

There is no reason why the talent on this team, if coached correctly, cannot win more games than it loses next year.
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Where does this talent on the team myth come from?

We have a Dominant lineman in Trey Smith, a good not great pair of Running Backs, good DB's. WR's have potentional. QB - questions. Defensive Line - wreck, Tuttle's OK. Linebackers - wreck. Offensive Line not named Trey Smith - wreck.

Its an 0 - 8 team in the SEC that got blown out by Alabama, Georgia, LSU, Missouri, and Vanderbilt. Florida and South Carolina are the only losses that in game coaching would make a difference.

6 - 6 would mean you won 3 SEC games or beat a solid WV squad after being 0 - 8. Your rotating SEC West opponent just beat Bama. Bama is the playoffs. Georgia is in the Playoffs. Missouri has the best QB in the league, and just blew you out. You'll have to clean the slate against Ky, Fl, Vandy, SC to go 7 -5. Possible, but unlikely.

9 wins ain't happening, and that's not Pruitt's fault.
 
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volfan102455 said:
Seriously? I expect to be no worse than 3-2 and believe 4-1 is attainable.

- West Virginia: They were 7-5. Lost some badly and some not so badly.
- Florida: Both teams have talent, better coach wins. I'm assuming you think that is Mullen.
- Georgia: They will be different next year. Lots of seniors gone. Expect them to be young. Game may be closer than folks think.

The other two - we lose those and we are looking at 0-12 and big fail.
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I’m right there with you on all points. We’re gonna see Georgia take a huge nosedive, it’s gonna be glorious.
 
#92
#92
SIAP. but as CJP said, I expect to win the all! (I've bought in,and I expect to WIN them all also!) With CJP telling us his mind set and the players taking this way of thinking, given the talent we have ( recruiting class and maybe some younger guys stepping up, buys into this) we might pull some wins out we don't see now.

Yes my costa's are orange color hehe!
 
#93
#93
lawgator1 said:
First, I agree with the sentiment that you should give Pruitt a solid chance to be successful. Same in my mind with Mullen.

But what does that mean, "to be successful"? Are thrre objective criteria, ie he must have 10 wins/season by year three? He must win the division by year three and the conference by year five? He just has to beat Alabama and Florida? Make the playoffs?

I'd say for UF fans, the measures are 1) a top 10 offense within three years; 2) win the conference and make the playoffs by year four.

Not sure how realistic that is, but there you go.
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Well, we cant share the same expectations. One of us is going to be upset. And it'll be the Gators ;)

Just giving ya a hard time LG. Your alright for a reptilian
 
#94
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lawgator1 said:
First, I agree with the sentiment that you should give Pruitt a solid chance to be successful. Same in my mind with Mullen.

But what does that mean, "to be successful"? Are thrre objective criteria, ie he must have 10 wins/season by year three? He must win the division by year three and the conference by year five? He just has to beat Alabama and Florida? Make the playoffs?

I'd say for UF fans, the measures are 1) a top 10 offense within three years; 2) win the conference and make the playoffs by year four.

Not sure how realistic that is, but there you go.
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When you take your ball and go home.....and stay home.

Last time, you came back.
 
#95
#95
lawgator1 said:
First, I agree with the sentiment that you should give Pruitt a solid chance to be successful. Same in my mind with Mullen.

But what does that mean, "to be successful"? Are thrre objective criteria, ie he must have 10 wins/season by year three? He must win the division by year three and the conference by year five? He just has to beat Alabama and Florida? Make the playoffs?

I'd say for UF fans, the measures are 1) a top 10 offense within three years; 2) win the conference and make the playoffs by year four.

Not sure how realistic that is, but there you go.
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It starts with wuppin' some gator ass in September 2018.

Should have beaten you three years running, but ole Butch gave you a pass the last two times in Hogtown aka Gainsville.

Most of our team is coming back and they want some payback.

Pruitt should improve our D, you better hope Mullen can horse whisper to Franks. I saw ole Felipe on an SEC film room rerun today. That boy can make a box of rocks look smart. :eek:lol:
 
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#96
Fighting Possum said:
Success depends on the circumstances. You can't quantify that. For example, losing to Florida is not necessarily a bad loss, but losing to a crappy Florida team on a garbage Hail Mary when we have more talent is the kind of loss that gets you fired. A good start for success would be getting us back to Atlanta!
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you sound like Butch Jones....
 
#97
#97
1) never lower than 8-4 record....
2) winning the SEC championship by year 4...and
3) winning the East at least 60% of the time....(3 out of every 5 years)...
4) getting into the playoffs at least once every 3 years...


Better aim HIGH....or just shut up or go home......and be satisfied with mediocrity....GO VOLS! :salute:
 
#98
#98
volfan102455 said:
Yes I did. Many were injured. I expect them to be healthy.
I expect the experience that the 2nd and 3rd stringers got this year to account for something as well.

It is sad that many are willing to sell these players short. Maybe Trey and company should just transfer right now.
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I don't think they're selling the players short but are hedging their bets in the event CJP fails at a higher level than FCBJ did when these players were injured. It would be embarrassing for the Fahr Butch crowd if the new hire lost with a healthy roster.


You are correct in stating 9 wins is easily attainable with a healthy roster.
 
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