what is the measure of successful enough to make you happy?

[lawgator1]

First, I agree with the sentiment that you should give Pruitt a solid chance to be successful. Same in my mind with Mullen.

But what does that mean, "to be successful"? Are thrre objective criteria, ie he must have 10 wins/season by year three? He must win the division by year three and the conference by year five? He just has to beat Alabama and Florida? Make the playoffs?

I'd say for UF fans, the measures are 1) a top 10 offense within three years; 2) win the conference and make the playoffs by year four.

Not sure how realistic that is, but there you go.

 

[volfan411]

I would say 8-9 wins by year 2 and winning the East in year 3.

 

[McDad]

My measure of successful is to successfully be successful to a measure of success that indicates attaining success has been successful.

 

[Fighting Possum]

Success depends on the circumstances. You can't quantify that. For example, losing to Florida is not necessarily a bad loss, but losing to a crappy Florida team on a garbage Hail Mary when we have more talent is the kind of loss that gets you fired. A good start for success would be getting us back to Atlanta!

 

[volfan102455]

9 wins year 1 should be possible. Not sure why all of you are saying year 2 or 3.

Now if half the team transfers ... yes. But if most of the team stays and offense / defense is geared towards the strength of the players there is no reason why the talent on this team can't produce wins.

 

[kemotoe]

9 wins year 1 should be possible. Not sure why all of you are saying year 2 or 3.

Now if half the team transfers ... yes. But if most of the team stays and offense / defense is geared towards the strength of the players there is no reason why the talent on this team can't produce wins.

Did you watch this years team?

 

[JFreak]

1. Sustained player development
2. Put your players in the best position to be successful on and off the field
3. Adjust to your opponents strengths and weaknesses
4. Make opponents scared to play in Neyland again
All of this is a bit subjective, but follow it and the wins will come.

 

[volfan102455]

Did you watch this years team?

Yes I did. Many were injured. I expect them to be healthy.
I expect the experience that the 2nd and 3rd stringers got this year to account for something as well.

It is sad that many are willing to sell these players short. Maybe Trey and company should just transfer right now.

 

[volfan102455]

1. Sustained player development
2. Put your players in the best position to be successful on and off the field
3. Adjust to your opponents strengths and weaknesses
4. Make opponents scared to play in Neyland again
All of this is a bit subjective, but follow it and the wins will come.

And all of this possible in year 1, IMO.

 

[austin_vol]

8 wins minimum. Our OL can only get better, not losing and RBs or WRs, keeping QBs. So pretty much all offense is returning. Same on D, we are losing no one really and the D sure as heck better be better than this year.

 

[VolunteerHillbilly]

I would say 8-9 wins by year 2 and winning the East in year 3.

This is fair. We will know by the end of his third season which way things are headed. In his favor is that 2018 can't really be worse than this season.

 

[PEPPERJAX]

By year two UT needs to be competing for SECE. The roster is far from the one Butch inherited after Dooley.

 

[JFreak]

And all of this possible in year 1, IMO.

Sustained player development certainly implies more than 1 year. Also it may take a while to make opponents fear Neyland again. We just went 0-8 in the SEC and now you're predicting 9 wins next year? Might wanna temper that a bit.

 

[JonGrudensAgent]

14-0

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

Beating the gators by 30

 

[14VolFan88]

He needs to be in Atlanta by year 3 imo. Butch had 9 win seasons, that isn't going to impress me.

 

[Knox-a-rue]

Win the east year 3 or 4 and then every 2-3 years. Win the SEC a few of those. Good special teams, win games you are supposed to win, not too many penalties in the defensive secondary or other dumb penalties. A good public face for the program (not always saying stupid stuff or stuff that may be good but said at terrible times).

 

[wtmvol]

- 1st year success = get back to a bowl game and recruit lights-out, especially in positions of need.

- By year 3, competing for SEC East, all the while stockpiling talent at all positions

- We should win the East at least once within the next 4 years.

- Stop embarrassing UT. We've had 3 coaches in a row who have gotten phD's in embarrassing the school, each in their own ridiculous way. Apparently, this one is tricky for everyone we choose to hire.

 

[14VolFan88]

Sustained player development certainly implies more than 1 year. Also it may take a while to make opponents fear Neyland again. We just went 0-8 in the SEC and now you're predicting 9 wins next year? Might wanna temper that a bit.

The roster is still light years better than what Butch inherited, and he still won 5 games. We easily have 8 win talent on this team. I'll be happy with 7-5, but if he only wins 5 games that's a huge red flag. IDK how many 4 stars were on our 2013 squad, but it couldn't have been more than 5.

 

[JFreak]

The roster is still light years better than what Butch inherited, and he still won 5 games. We easily have 8 win talent on this team. I'll be happy with 7-5, but if he only wins 5 games that's a huge red flag. IDK how many 4 stars were on our 2013 squad, but it couldn't have been more than 5.

Gotta answer some serious questions at the QB position if we hope to win 8 games next year.

 

[golf437]

9 wins year 1 should be possible. Not sure why all of you are saying year 2 or 3.

Now if half the team transfers ... yes. But if most of the team stays and offense / defense is geared towards the strength of the players there is no reason why the talent on this team can't produce wins.

Do not be silly. We are short of SEC talent. Give Him a little time.

 

[SaintLouisVol]

Continuous improvement is all that I ask for. It's pretty hard to fully know where this team is right now.

Jones was successful in year one all things considered.
Year two, the team was better. Successful.
Year three, the team was even better. Successful.
Year four. The team was NOT better. Perhaps they even regressed. NOT sucessful.
Year five. Well, you probably saw that. Let's not talk about it.


I think Fulmer said it best. I want a team that can play with anybody, anytime. I want a team that has a chance to beat anybody. Like we were in the 90s. A team that every school in the country that comes into Neyland know they better bring their A game to win.

 

[PEPPERJAX]

The roster is still light years better than what Butch inherited, and he still won 5 games. We easily have 8 win talent on this team. I'll be happy with 7-5, but if he only wins 5 games that's a huge red flag. IDK how many 4 stars were on our 2013 squad, but it couldn't have been more than 5.

Agreed. Expectations for next year should be about 7-5. Pruitt was also hired for his recruiting prowess and that starts with this current class. IDK how many 4 starts either but it is definitely a lot compared to a little in comparison to what Butch took over.

 

[TheEndlessEnigma]

The revival of the forward pass......

 

[J.Chris]

9 wins year 1 should be possible. Not sure why all of you are saying year 2 or 3.

Now if half the team transfers ... yes. But if most of the team stays and offense / defense is geared towards the strength of the players there is no reason why the talent on this team can't produce wins.

Haha, have you seen the schedule for next season? This is completely unrealistic for a year 1 coach coming into this mess.