What is the biggest obstacle in the way of hiring a Heavy Hitter.

What’s the biggest obstacle to getting a big time Coach?

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So, you are saying that if this obstacle could be overcome, we would be able to competitively bid with Florida and any other schools in landing a big fish.
 
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The biggest obstacle to getting a heavy hitter is convincing a heavy hitter that we're actually a good career move.
 
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personal opinion only, I don't have any sources:)

I believe the university does'nt want to appear as another one of those programs that sold the farm to land that guy.
All in the name of winning football games.

One needs to keep in perspective what a university is for.
 
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I don’t think we really know at this point. They are all in the same category to me.
 
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Volunteer football, along with all Knoxville campus Athletic Department sports are not part of the general state wide Student Services funding in the University's annual budget.

The UTK Athletic Department funds itself through several cash streams. Donor bequests, general donor, donor season ticket sales, package and single game ticket sales, concessions, season broadcast revenue, SEC distributions for post-season, bowls, tournament and play-off participation.

But a significant percentage is from donors who expect a large tax write off for their generosity. The new tax law may eliminate that write off and so the AD's ability to offer top salary's to whoever would be the 'Dream Hire'.

We may see some of the monies planned for Neyland renovations robbed from Peter to pay Paul.... or what ever is the name of our next coach..... (John)?
 
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I think the biggest obstacle to overcome is the expectation of success. It's always hard to find someone willing to follow a legend.
 
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$

That is it. No matter what people say if you put up enough money most (not all) would come.
 
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JoAllan said:
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That is it. No matter what people say if you put up enough money most (not all) would come.
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The biggest obstacle is presuming that with enough money, you could hire a SURE success. So many of the names I hear mentioned are POSSIBLE successes, but there are very very very few coaches who are SURE fire winners, and even they might not be in going from one school/conference to another. Success at the top is not easy to replicate. Think that Mark Zuckerberg could recreate facebook today, no matter how much money he threw at it?
 
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#VFL1983 said:
I think the biggest obstacle to overcome is the expectation of success. It's always hard to find someone willing to follow a legend.
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I don't disagree with your premise in principle. For instance, I don't envy the guy who takes the Bama job after Saban retires. Even Dabo would feel pressure given the recent accomplishments. I don't feel this applies to UT if you're referring to Fulmer and the years after. Fulmer didn't leave; he was fired. We can argue about how that went down but I don't see that as beneficial. UT's issue was very weak (almost non-existent) oversight of the football program by the AD and administration. It unfortunately has continued well past Fulmer's termination. This athletic program (all sports) is as weak as I've ever seen it, especially men's sports.
 
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VolRoger said:
I don't disagree with your premise in principle. For instance, I don't envy the guy who takes the Bama job after Saban retires. Even Dabo would feel pressure given the recent accomplishments. I don't feel this applies to UT if you're referring to Fulmer and the years after. Fulmer didn't leave; he was fired. We can argue about how that went down but I don't see that as beneficial. UT's issue was very weak (almost non-existent) oversight of the football program by the AD and administration. It unfortunately has continued well past Fulmer's termination. This athletic program (all sports) is as weak as I've ever seen it, especially men's sports.
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I was specifically referencing the last few seasons. Let's face it, the Fulmer years weren't anything special. Beat UF once or twice, managed to squeak our way into a national championship victory against FSU's 3rd string QB, then all downhill from there. CBJ has been a success in rebuilding this program to the level we're at, and I'm not sure there will be too many coaches wanting to step into a situation where the last guy got fired for rebuilding the program.
 
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#VFL1983 said:
I was specifically referencing the last few seasons. Let's face it, the Fulmer years weren't anything special. Beat UF once or twice, managed to squeak our way into a national championship victory against FSU's 3rd string QB, then all downhill from there. CBJ has been a success in rebuilding this program to the level we're at, and I'm not sure there will be too many coaches wanting to step into a situation where the last guy got fired for rebuilding the program.
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No argument that CBJ rebuilt a broken program and deserves credit for that, as well as the necessary time to rebuild it. But come on, there is no denying he kinda shat the bed this year. 5 years is enough time. People are willing to wait while the soil is tilled and seeds are planted but at some point, its got to produce a crop. Right now, the fans have gone hungry for far too long.
 
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Where shall we start. Academic administration will not allow enough control for someone of Saban or Chip type.

We have a higher focus now on academia versus athletics.

Mediocrity is the standard. 8-9 wins a season will guarantee you coaching status for life.

Our rivals - Alabama, Georgia and Florida all have infinitely better recruiting bases so it’s a constant uphill battle. They should all beat you 4 out of every 5 years just based on talent alone but you will be expected to beat them consistently.

If you fail to do the above you have stupid movement a like empty Neyland to make not only yourself but the entire college the laughing stock of college football.
 
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These coaches that get paid 4 or 5 million any place have to think about what they want out of life and their legacy. They have a very stressful time-consuming job, so if you give them an extra million dollars, I don't think they really have time to spend it. Just my opinion.
 
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Gandalf said:
The biggest obstacle is presuming that with enough money, you could hire a SURE success. So many of the names I hear mentioned are POSSIBLE successes, but there are very very very few coaches who are SURE fire winners, and even they might not be in going from one school/conference to another. Success at the top is not easy to replicate. Think that Mark Zuckerberg could recreate facebook today, no matter how much money he threw at it?
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While a agree with you the question is what is the biggest obstacle in getting one of those guys.......and really money is it. If the money is put up they better make sure they are getting the right one or it would be better just to go cheaper.
 
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