What is hart waiting for?

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With no press conference scheduled, it doesn't look like Dooley's firing will be announced today.

What is Hart waiting for?

Plenty of sources suggest that Hart will let Dooley go at the end of the season, but I don't see the advantage in keeping it under wraps. Certainly, as a public institution, UT is very limited in its ability to find and hire a new coach until they take the firing and search public.

Waiting until the end of the season seems foolish. There really isn't anything to gain. There isn't a notable opponent left. There certainly aren't any streaks to keep alive. Our recruiting class is hardly stellar and would probably be better to disrupt and reorganize now than in December.

All waiting accomplishes is uncertainty for the staff and players, limited ability to negotiate with replacements, further diviseness amongst fans, more empty seats, and an ever shortening window of time to make a change.

Is Hart just being timid? Obviously, he hasn't had to fire a head football coach on this level before. Is he in over his head here?
 
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He needs to make some sort of statement regardless of what it is. When you let the media run wild without a statement it never looks good.
 
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oregonvol said:
With no press conference scheduled, it doesn't look like Dooley's firing will be announced today.

What is Hart waiting for?

Plenty of sources suggest that Hart will let Dooley go at the end of the season, but I don't see the advantage in keeping it under wraps. Certainly, as a public institution, UT is very limited in its ability to find and hire a new coach until they take the firing and search public.

Waiting until the end of the season seems foolish. There really isn't anything to gain. There isn't a notable opponent left. There certainly aren't any streaks to keep alive. Our recruiting class is hardly stellar and would probably be better to disrupt and reorganize now than in December.

All waiting accomplishes is uncertainty for the staff and players, limited ability to negotiate with replacements, further diviseness amongst fans, more empty seats, and an ever shortening window of time to make a change.

Is Hart just being timid? Obviously, he hasn't had to fire a head football coach on this level before. Is he in over his head here?
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If he already knows he has his guy ( such as Gruden) by way of boosters getting info., he can either announce b4 last game (regular season) or right after with no harm.
 
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so when we beat kentucky and head to a bowl game, do you thing Dooley is still our coach?

cause we are all pretty certain that no bowl, DD is gone....
 
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Hart want be making the call. His superiors will. All he has to do is annouce there decision. You know the folks with the pocket book. It's absolutely not fair to the players. They deserve a statement. They here the rumors just like we do.
 
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oregonvol said:
With no press conference scheduled, it doesn't look like Dooley's firing will be announced today.

What is Hart waiting for?

Plenty of sources suggest that Hart will let Dooley go at the end of the season, but I don't see the advantage in keeping it under wraps. Certainly, as a public institution, UT is very limited in its ability to find and hire a new coach until they take the firing and search public.

Waiting until the end of the season seems foolish. There really isn't anything to gain. There isn't a notable opponent left. There certainly aren't any streaks to keep alive. Our recruiting class is hardly stellar and would probably be better to disrupt and reorganize now than in December.

All waiting accomplishes is uncertainty for the staff and players, limited ability to negotiate with replacements, further diviseness amongst fans, more empty seats, and an ever shortening window of time to make a change.

Is Hart just being timid? Obviously, he hasn't had to fire a head football coach on this level before. Is he in over his head here?
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maybe he's waiting to hear from you.Have you called him yet??:whistling:
 
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oregonvol said:
With no press conference scheduled, it doesn't look like Dooley's firing will be announced today.

What is Hart waiting for?

Plenty of sources suggest that Hart will let Dooley go at the end of the season, but I don't see the advantage in keeping it under wraps. Certainly, as a public institution, UT is very limited in its ability to find and hire a new coach until they take the firing and search public.

Waiting until the end of the season seems foolish. There really isn't anything to gain. There isn't a notable opponent left. There certainly aren't any streaks to keep alive. Our recruiting class is hardly stellar and would probably be better to disrupt and reorganize now than in December.

All waiting accomplishes is uncertainty for the staff and players, limited ability to negotiate with replacements, further diviseness amongst fans, more empty seats, and an ever shortening window of time to make a change.

Is Hart just being timid? Obviously, he hasn't had to fire a head football coach on this level before. Is he in over his head here?
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Hart is waiting on a proven coach to become interested in the job opening. If no one that is a real improvement over Dooley is interested in the job, then Dooley will remain the coach, by default.
No need to fire Dooley and hire someone just like him. If we can't improve our coaching staff, then might as well keep Dooley in place and save the buy out money.
 
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He's waiting for the season to play out. No way he's fired until after the season, if he is even fired. He goes 8-5 including a bowl win and he will likely be the coach next year, IMO. Might see Sunseri be the scapegoat and get the boot after only one season however. Our defense is horrific.
 
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Vol Fans need to keep calm, imploding because Heart hasn't announced that Dools has been fired isn't going to help bring anyone in here. If we burn our beds and jump up and down throwing temper tantrums isn't going to help. It just makes us look stupid and might turn people away. Relax it's coming, I'm sure Heart knows something we don't.
 
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oregonvol said:
With no press conference scheduled, it doesn't look like Dooley's firing will be announced today.

What is Hart waiting for?

Plenty of sources suggest that Hart will let Dooley go at the end of the season, but I don't see the advantage in keeping it under wraps. Certainly, as a public institution, UT is very limited in its ability to find and hire a new coach until they take the firing and search public.

Waiting until the end of the season seems foolish. There really isn't anything to gain. There isn't a notable opponent left. There certainly aren't any streaks to keep alive. Our recruiting class is hardly stellar and would probably be better to disrupt and reorganize now than in December.

All waiting accomplishes is uncertainty for the staff and players, limited ability to negotiate with replacements, further diviseness amongst fans, more empty seats, and an ever shortening window of time to make a change.

Is Hart just being timid? Obviously, he hasn't had to fire a head football coach on this level before. Is he in over his head here?
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(1) We don't know how the players will react. Do they give more effort in each game or do they pull a wyoming on us and tank the rest of the season?

(2) We can still go 7 - 5 and qualify for a bowl game. However, if we lose two more games, and become ineligible for a bowl game, then I would immediately fire Dooley and put Hinkshaw in as interim coach.
 
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dlw4n said:
I know it's already been posted, but it actually bears being repeated.

http://www.volnation.com/forum/tennessee-vols-football/176402-i-think-some-here-need-crash.html

This guy pretty much nails it.
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Actually alot of the points in there make it obvious to me that the longer Hart waits, the more troublesome this becomes.

Plenty of coaches are fired before the end of the season. And there is good reason to do this. As a public university, you have to announce a search and proceed with it after a firing. They can't sign anyone to a contract until Dooley is fired. And they can't fire Dooley and just hire someone the next day. So, the longer you wait, you push further back the timetable on when you can get a new coach. This leaves your fans, boosters, recruits, etc. in limbo and causes more unrest amongst them, until that time.

Also, let's, just for the sake of argument, say some of the silly rumors/explanations are accurate and Gruden is a lock and Hart is just waiting until the end of the season to announce it. That would be stupid. Why give your slam dunk hire time to change his mind before you sign him to a contract?

Or let's say some other silly explanations are true and Hart is waiting to make sure he has a big name guy lined up before he fires Dooley. Well that would be stupid. There is a reason other top level programs don't do this. It's much harder to find that right guy, to determine that he is the right guy, and to negotiate terms with your hands tied because you haven't publicly fired the old guy or announced a search.

It just looks to me like Hart is being rather timid in this process and that's not a good thing.
 
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It will all work itself out fellas. I want Dooley out of here as much as the next guy, but I do agree the dropping him before Troy vandy Uk and Mizz will hurt us. IF we drop one to troy Mizz or Vandy you fire him first thing monday. We just have to be patient
 
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Where do you posters come up with the bowl money scenario? Every game left on the schedule is against a team Dools could lose to - especially Mizzou, Vandy and UK. Troy will be a struggle because of the offense they run. Our D doesn't cover slot guys/TEs at all and are horrible on the edges because the outside LBs and safeties are so bad.

I get that they might win 2 or more games if it all falls right - but that is not anywhere close to being a sure bet.
 
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vols-1 said:
I don't know, but TN can't afford another last minute coaching search.
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Talk about a total implosion of our football program...

this change will take time & there's enough armchair football pros on this very BB that should apply for all the jobs on our coaching staff... then we'll have a winning team... :crazy: :p

GO VOLS..
GO BIG ORANGE .. :good!:
 
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Depending on who you believe, the guys who are paying the buyout are in charge of the current coaching search/Gruden wooing and Hart has been muzzled until further notice.
 
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