what is everyones final rivals 5 star prediction

#26
#26
yeah thatll def help. i thought you were talking about having Hurd at 5* and Kameel or Akeem at 5*

Sorry got the juco's all confused, and forgot about Malone, who is not sewn up yet, in my original post.

So, I think Hurd gets a bump with Malone very likely to get the bump, and Bates possible, and TK Jr unlikely but who knows.

Best case senariowe have three 5* and worst case nobody moves. most likely we get one or two.
 
#27
#27
i have no idea how to start a thread,but,Jalen hurd won most valuable rb at the osu nike camp,AND,Joe Henderson won the most valuable defensive lineman(over DE'shawn Hand)Boom!:loco:
 
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#29
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i have no idea how to start a thread,but,Jalen hurd won most valuable rb at the osu nike camp,AND,Joe Henderson won the most valuable defensive lineman(over DE'shawn Hand)Boom!:loco:

Yep and Hurd got an invite to the opening. If he does good there he should get his next star.

I hope Henderson shows out like today at some other camps this summer, so he can climb the rankings. IMO he should just follow Hand around camp to camp and out perform him again lol!:)
 
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#30
#30
a 5* JUCO doesnt earn near the points a 5* HS player earns.

They only award JUCOs points for their stars..
They award HS players points for their stars plus points for their overall ranking.

so a 4* HS player can earn more points than a 5* JUCO

Rivals has changed their methodology slightly. “Unlike the old formula, the new formula uses a prospect's Rivals Rating (RR), not the prospect's star rating, as the key factor in the formula to compute the point totals

For what it is worth, however, 5-star athlete = ranking of 6.1.
4-star athlete = ranking from 5.8-6.0
3-star athlete = ranking from 5.5-5.7
2-star athlete = ranking, presumably, 5.2-5.4.

For a complete breakdown on Rivals’ ranking methodology and the tiered-bonus point system assigned to top-250 prospects, see Rivals.com Football Recruiting - Rivals.com Football Team Recruiting Rankings Formula. To illustrate this process, however, let us take, as examples, Jalen Hurd and Todd Kelly, who currently have 6.0 rankings. They automatically receive 135 base points for that ranking. As the 19th-ranked prospect nationally, Hurd would receive an additional 61 points for a total of 196. Kelly is 61st, so that gives him an additional 40 points, for a total of 175.

We presently have no commitments with a 5.9 ranking, but Daniel Helm, D’Andre Payne and Vic Wharton all have a 5.8 ranking, so they receive a base of 105 points. Helm and Payne are ranked 175th and 206th, respectively, so they receive bonuses of 18 and 11 points, respectively, which raise their final totals to 123 and 116 points. All of this is, of course, subject to significant change as updates are made to both individual and top 250 rankings, but it gives you some idea of precisely where these numerical values come from which go into final team rankings.

As was previously the case, only the 20 highest ranked signees count toward the overall class rank. It is worth noting, however, that “JUCO and Prep School national rankings do not have bonuses. Only those prospects’ RR rating will be considered in the point calculation.” The significance of this statement is that, even if you should sign the nation’s no. 1-ranked JUCO prospect, his point total will be based solely upon his Rivals Ranking, which, as previously noted, ranges from 5.2-6.1. Within Rivals’ methodology, JUCO players simply are not eligible for bonus points.

To me, the new system seems like a more precise methodology and certainly will reward programs who sign a disproportionately high number of Top 250 or even Top 100 prospects.
 
#31
#31
With Malone and Bates going to the 5 star camp next week, if they stand out will that be enough to bump them? Could that shoot Bates towards the top?

Could be but, then again, it may not happen immediately. Right now, Rivals has only 18 prospects rated as 5-star athletes. Jalen Hurd is their highest rated 4-star prospect. Last year, Rivals final ranking listed 33 5-star recruits. They will issue a number of updates before National Signing Day; I have no idea just how many. If they award roughly 30 5-star ratings again this year, I would think that Malone, in particular, has an excellent chance of making that cut, since he is already 38th, I believe. Dillon Bates and Todd Kelly are 59th and 61st, respectively, if memory serves me correctly. So between summer camps and their senior seasons, they certainly could garner that 5th star as well. Needless to say, they will need to pass quite a few elite prospects that are currently ranked ahead of them.
 
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I just don't see how Hurd doesn't end up a 5*, with the exception of a season injury perhaps.(God Forbid.) I want to say Malone has a great shot, but I'd be surprised to see 2 5* WRs. Bates might get a fifth star if he performs really well at the Opening. I doubt Tk Jr will.

In my opinion, Hendrix is one to watch. He quite possible could end up a 5*
 
#35
#35
I just don't see how Hurd doesn't end up a 5*, with the exception of a season injury perhaps.(God Forbid.) I want to say Malone has a great shot, but I'd be surprised to see 2 5* WRs. Bates might get a fifth star if he performs really well at the Opening. I doubt Tk Jr will.

In my opinion, Hendrix is one to watch. He quite possible could end up a 5*

IMO Kelly Jr is better then Ramsey was and Ramsey was a five star
 
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#36
#36
I just don't see how Hurd doesn't end up a 5*, with the exception of a season injury perhaps.(God Forbid.) I want to say Malone has a great shot, but I'd be surprised to see 2 5* WRs. Bates might get a fifth star if he performs really well at the Opening. I doubt Tk Jr will.

In my opinion, Hendrix is one to watch. He quite possible could end up a 5*

True but I thought he was a long shot thats why I didnt have him in my list?
 
#38
#38
Hurd will be a 5star. Long shot for Bates, Hendrix and Kelly Jr but certainly possible if they ball out this summer and fall. Malone probably gets a 5th star, hopefully he's a Vol.
 
#39
#39
True but I thought he was a long shot thats why I didnt have him in my list?

It might be a long shot, but I'd still pay close attention. He made a huge leap in the rankings recently and the sites seem to really love what he's doing. He was invited to the Opening so all he has to do really is show out there and he's got a shot.
 
#40
#40
It might be a long shot, but I'd still pay close attention. He made a huge leap in the rankings recently and the sites seem to really love what he's doing. He was invited to the Opening so all he has to do really is show out there and he's got a shot.

I meant more for us getting him. I agree he could get a fifth star but I was going offthe guys we actually have a great shot at getting. Hope we get him though, with him, Malone, and Hurd all having a good shot at 5*'s we would be hard to bump from that number one spot! hope the momentum keeps rolling.
 
#41
#41
IMO
13 hurd
17 Bates
23 Kelly Jr
31 Hendrix

High four

Paulk
Ev Berry

This is some top shelf homerism, GOAT. You are not seeing things as they really are.

Hurd should get a 5 star. Malone has a decent shot with a big senior year. Unless TKjr just explodes in the up-and-coming camp curcuits and has a massive senior year, I doubt he will move. Bates, if anyone, has the best chance of getting a 5 star with all the camps he will be attending. Hendrix has made some big moves, but a 5 star is too big of a bump.

Paulk has yet to break the 250 so there is no reason to think he's going to be a high 4 star yet. Evan and Elliot are both still 3 stars, so unless they do a fair bit of camping this summer then I doubt even they get 4 stars.

Coleman Thomas could get a 4 star bump. Kameel Jackson is another and we should find that out very soon.
 
#42
#42
What's y'all take on Wharton and Mouhon dropping out of the 250?

It happens. Wharton isn't ranked nearly as high on 247, so perhaps he will remain on the outside looking in until he makes the 'recruiting analysts' think otherwise by performing big at camps and having a big senior season.
 
#43
#43
This is some top shelf homerism, GOAT. You are not seeing things as they really are.

Hurd should get a 5 star. Malone has a decent shot with a big senior year. Unless TKjr just explodes in the up-and-coming camp curcuits and has a massive senior year, I doubt he will move. Bates, if anyone, has the best chance of getting a 5 star with all the camps he will be attending. Hendrix has made some big moves, but a 5 star is too big of a bump.

Paulk has yet to break the 250 so there is no reason to think he's going to be a high 4 star yet. Evan and Elliot are both still 3 stars, so unless they do a fair bit of camping this summer then I doubt even they get 4 stars.

Coleman Thomas could get a 4 star bump. Kameel Jackson is another and we should find that out very soon.
First hurd will beast mode in camp and UA game. Kelly will surprise everyone at the AA game against great compition. Bates is betting a 5 star RB in camp.watch paulks senior year. And Evan hasn't camped at all and is a 4 star last I checked.
 
#44
#44
Good point on Evan, I forgot about his rating on 247. Kelly and Bates are both a stretch. I'm still rooting for all of them but just think you got a little star happy in your predictions. As Rivals has taught us time and time again, they don't always do what we think they should when it comes to star rankings.
 
#45
#45
Hurd and bates get 5*
Maybes... TKjr. Hendrix,

Bumped to high 4s... Henderson, Berry's.
 
#46
#46
I meant more for us getting him. I agree he could get a fifth star but I was going offthe guys we actually have a great shot at getting. Hope we get him though, with him, Malone, and Hurd all having a good shot at 5*'s we would be hard to bump from that number one spot! hope the momentum keeps rolling.

Oh I misread then but I think we have a great shot at Hendrix. He's been very high on us.
 
#47
#47
Oh I misread then but I think we have a great shot at Hendrix. He's been very high on us.

I read somewhere a different opinion than vn has and thought he was a tougher get than most on here think. Sure hope vn is right cause with him and Henderson on the outside with the possible lb we have coming is going to be ridiculous by their soph or junior year.
 
#48
#48
Hurd, Malone, and possibly Bates I see as the best chance to earn their 5* status...ATP
 
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