What is acceptable/competitive to you as a Vol fan?

What is acceptable/competitive to you as a Vol fan?

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#26
#26
8 games at least
10 games average
12 games some times
7 out of ten bowls games
To some that bar maybe to high,but I do not belive it is.
IMHO
With that, the SEC championship would be in sight.:cray:
 
#27
#27
Old Orange said:
8 games at least
10 games average
12 games some times
7 out of ten bowls games
To some that bar maybe to high,but I do not belive it is.
IMHO
With that, the SEC championship would be in sight.:cray:
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By that I assume you mean bowl wins.
 
#28
#28
Tennessee should rarely finish the season out of the top 15. No exceptions. Look at the facilites, the fan support, the tradition, etc. I don't ever like to concede a loss to anyone before the game has been played. Sure, Florida will be loaded next year and heavy favories against the Vols...but that doesn't mean UT should be expecting to lose. UT is not a Yugo... it is a high powered machine that can and should play with anyone in the country on any given Saturday.
 
#29
#29
SEC East 1 out of every 3 years.
SEC Championship 1 out of every 5 years.
BCS bowl 1 out of every 3 years.
10 wins or more 1 out of every 2 years.
Top ten finish 1 out of every 3 years.

Not unrealistic expectations at all.
 
#30
#30
I do not want to be the team that the rest of the SEC and National audience, think of as an after thought... It is not always about records because we have fielded teams that should win it all but didn't...Confused I am sure. I just want to be competitive again always in the hunt not a pretender but a real contender down to the wire. We have not be good enough in these last 6 years to be even consider a pretender much a real contender... I want people to fear playing any tennessee football team, superior or not for fear of losing. Bear Bryant never had a problem getting his team ready to play Tennessee...
 
#31
#31
Should be in top 3 of east every year, win it 3/5.
Win SEC 2/5
Be in bowl every year, BCS 3/5.
NC game 1/5, win 1/10.
Never lose more than 3 games/no more than 2 4/5.
Beat Bama 3/5.
Beat Gators 3/5.

Nothing less should be considered as being competitive.
 
#32
#32
rbroyles said:
Should be in top 3 of east every year, win it 3/5.
Win SEC 2/5
Be in bowl every year, BCS 3/5.
NC game 1/5, win 1/10.
Never lose more than 3 games/no more than 2 4/5.
Beat Bama 3/5.
Beat Gators 3/5.

Nothing less should be considered as being competitive.
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that is ridiculous dude. UT will never be capable of that.
 
#33
#33
ThisIsWhyImHot said:
that is ridiculous dude. UT will never be capable of that.
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The thread is on what is being competitive. To be competitive nationally I presumed, and this is what it would take to be on par with USC, OSU, OK, LSU, FL et al, who are consistently contenders for a national title. We should be on this level with our facilities, recruitment ability, and fanbase. Why should we settle for less than this.
 
#34
#34
because we are not a powerhouse and we aren't expected to be. A national championship game every 5 years? BCS game 3/5?

It's hard to do with a stagnant program and no in state recruiting base
 
#35
#35
ThisIsWhyImHot said:
because we are not a powerhouse and we aren't expected to be. A national championship game every 5 years? BCS game 3/5?

It's hard to do with a stagnant program and no in state recruiting base
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Again, my take on the premis of this thread is what is acceptable to be competitive, not where we actually are at this time. The in-state recruitment has never been all that good, thats why we have such a wide spread recruiting record, one of the few bright spots of the coaching staff. I ask again, do we want to be the type of program we should be, or settle for above average? The top programs do exactly these things. It may not be doable in our current situation, that's why we need a change, either in philosophy or in staff if not both.
 
#36
#36
but every team can't be an elite team. If that happensm then it will just be a crap shoot as to who wins every individual game.
 
#37
#37
ThisIsWhyImHot said:
but every team can't be an elite team. If that happensm then it will just be a crap shoot as to who wins every individual game.
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Every team cannot be an elite team- absolutely agree. Then the concept of being elite would not exist if all were on an equal level, but that isn't going to happen. Talent levels are going to be higher at a particular team, and coaching staff ability will always be a variable, a fluid variable as changes in staff are more and more common. I think we can and should be one of those considered elite. USC is playing in their 6th staight BCS game. Ohio State is playing in their 3rd NC game in this decade. Why do we not demand to be on that level? It is attainable, others are doing it, and so should we. Let the rest settle for whatever level they find satisfactory, as that is the norm for the majority to reach a comfort level and stop pushing for improvement, even if only minutely, starting a decay eventually allowing those who maintain effort to pull ahead. To put it succinctly, if it was easy all would do it.

In the decade of the 90s we were 95-22, avg of 9.5 wins/yr, played in bowl every year, Jan 1st 8 times, played in 5 BCS bowls, 2 NC games, won 1
 
#38
#38
Some great thoughts and opinions.

I think we are all in the same book, possibly in the same chapter, and a few are on the same page.

Here are my thoughts (again tempered by almost 50 years of follwing the VOLS)

Keep the schedule primo...don't back away from playing anybody, east, west, or north (and if Miami and FSU recover play their butts too). I love looking at other fans and saying "What do you think ___________(insert your teams name here) would do playing the same schedule as the VOLS?

Recruit the best athletes who can be students, remain eligible and at least leave UT without a police record! It is important to me that we not be called the "Miami of the Smokeys" see 05 season.

Be in the chatter as a SEC contender, top 10 to 15 team, annually and in the hunt for a BCS bowl 1 of 3 seasons with a shot at an NC 2 or 3 times in a decade...see 1990's.

9 wins annually....Win the SEC east 2 of 4, and the SEC 1 of those years.

Beat bama yearly ( I just can't bring myself to ever concede one freaking game to "those people.")

Beat florida 50%, and be competitive yearly ( I thought we were within a play of beating them 06, thus competitive).

Most of all I want opposing players, coaches, and fans to dread seeing the VOLS, VOL Nation, Neyland stadium, and the color Tennessee orange...FOREVER.

PS: Written completely sober and drug free by a VOL
Fanatic, no apology given!:clapping:
 
#39
#39
gcb/hoosiervol said:
Some great thoughts and opinions.

I think we are all in the same book, possibly in the same chapter, and a few are on the same page.

Here are my thoughts (again tempered by almost 50 years of follwing the VOLS)

Keep the schedule primo...don't back away from playing anybody, east, west, or north (and if Miami and FSU recover play their butts too). I love looking at other fans and saying "What do you think ___________(insert your teams name here) would do playing the same schedule as the VOLS?

Recruit the best athletes who can be students, remain eligible and at least leave UT without a police record! It is important to me that we not be called the "Miami of the Smokeys" see 05 season.

Be in the chatter as a SEC contender, top 10 to 15 team, annually and in the hunt for a BCS bowl 1 of 3 seasons with a shot at an NC 2 or 3 times in a decade...see 1990's.

9 wins annually....Win the SEC east 2 of 4, and the SEC 1 of those years.

Beat bama yearly ( I just can't bring myself to ever concede one freaking game to "those people.")

Beat florida 50%, and be competitive yearly ( I thought we were within a play of beating them 06, thus competitive).

Most of all I want opposing players, coaches, and fans to dread seeing the VOLS, VOL Nation, Neyland stadium, and the color Tennessee orange...FOREVER.

PS: Written completely sober and drug free by a VOL
Fanatic, no apology given!:clapping:
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:rock: Thats what I'm talkin' about!!
 
#40
#40
With UT's facilities, money, fan base, reputation, etc., they should be in the top 10 every season, and win SEC titles every few years. Anything less is unacceptable.
 
#41
#41
Yep, because the instate high school talent is consistently on par with Georgia, Florida, Cali, Ohio, & Texas
 
#42
#42
gcb/hoosiervol said:
Some great thoughts and opinions.

I think we are all in the same book, possibly in the same chapter, and a few are on the same page.

Here are my thoughts (again tempered by almost 50 years of follwing the VOLS)

Keep the schedule primo...don't back away from playing anybody, east, west, or north (and if Miami and FSU recover play their butts too). I love looking at other fans and saying "What do you think ___________(insert your teams name here) would do playing the same schedule as the VOLS?

Recruit the best athletes who can be students, remain eligible and at least leave UT without a police record! It is important to me that we not be called the "Miami of the Smokeys" see 05 season.

Be in the chatter as a SEC contender, top 10 to 15 team, annually and in the hunt for a BCS bowl 1 of 3 seasons with a shot at an NC 2 or 3 times in a decade...see 1990's.

9 wins annually....Win the SEC east 2 of 4, and the SEC 1 of those years.

Beat bama yearly ( I just can't bring myself to ever concede one freaking game to "those people.")
Beat florida 50%, and be competitive yearly ( I thought we were within a play of beating them 06, thus competitive).

Most of all I want opposing players, coaches, and fans to dread seeing the VOLS, VOL Nation, Neyland stadium, and the color Tennessee orange...FOREVER.

PS: Written completely sober and drug free by a VOL
Fanatic, no apology given!:clapping:
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I'm feelng it, even though it's unrealistic. The younger guys just don't understand the emotions of the Bama rivalry of the 50s-70s. To beat Bama made a 6-4 season seem satisfactory.
 
#44
#44
rbroyles said:
I'm feelng it, even though it's unrealistic. The younger guys just don't understand the emotions of the Bama rivalry of the 50s-70s. To beat Bama made a 6-4 season seem satisfactory.
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Hey we were 4 - 6 for the 80's but at least we broke through.

I can not understand how any VOL fan could cheer for bama...unless there win would vault us into a SEC championship title match!

I attended MTSU undergraduate, and had a prof on the Friday before the Saturday game ask all of us to get up out of our seats walk to the window and look out. It was a picture perfect October day in Tennessee. She then asked us who we thought we had to thank for such a day. One person answered "God." The profs reply was ,"No! Only Bear Bryant could do that! You'all will see that tomorrow!" She then dismissed class!

Just another reason to despise bama. Geez!
 
#45
#45
rbroyles said:
To beat Bama made a 6-4 season seem satisfactory.
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there is just something about sitting through 11 straight losses, soon followed by 7 more in a row, that puts a certain perspective on things.
 
#47
#47
PowerT83 said:
We cant beat Florida without dominating the line of scrimmage with 4 lineman,
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Good news: There will be new guys playing.

Bad news: There's really no way of knowing if they'll be better than those that played this year.

Georgia will have just about everybody back. But we have the talent to match-up with the Dawgs.
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This is repeated fairly often but it isn't altogether true. They lose several key players including T Brown, Bailey, M Henderson, two OL's, and 4-6 significant contributors on D.... plus their West schedule is Bama, @Aub, and @LSU.

FTR, depending on how good the new OC is, UT will probabably match up better than anyone against UF and have the best shot at beating them... if a good DL is built and UT is able to run the ball.

Just pray that Brimfield or Langley one emerges as the next dominant DT at UT. DE shouldn't be as much of a problem with a glut of talent.
 
#48
#48
Winning an SECCG more than once every ten years.
Beating FLA more than once every four or five years.
Not getting blown out by a crappy Bama team.
Not getting beat by weak Pac-10 teams.
BCS bowl bid more than once every ten years.
Winning more than nine games more than once every three to four years.
 
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