What I Saw on the OL Yesterday That Possibly Explains Things...

#51
#51
doctorchoice said:
The offensive linemen didn’t know who to block, the receivers ran the wrong routes. On defense nobody appeared to know who to cover or where to be. It took us til week 6 last year before our players knew what direction to go. BYU and Florida are going to brutalize us. Chattanooga is a toss-up.
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Hard to blame the receivers when JG is the QB.
 
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knucklehead_vol said:
Bad coaching and prep. Also, this does not explain their offense scoring 38? Points. Please don't say they were out so much, if that is the case the SC coach needs to be looked at. Another thing, you don't scrimmage the 1st quarter. You get the score up and then experiment.
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I think it explains insomuch as they were so woefully prepared and coached that they literally allowed the defense to go on the field and be involved in a play with 8 people on the field.
 
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sjt18 said:
At a certain point, you choose your starters as best you can and go with them.
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Like right f*^#king now. Put the best 5 in and develop continuity with them. Chaney and Friend suppose to be on top of this and all they're doing is causing confusion. Trey's not ready to start either because he hasn't repped enough. from left to right IMO.......#66....#58....#55....#JOHNSON....Tatum...#4,(l/r). I'm not up on it that close but these guys except #66 have experience. This staff is failing as of now. Defense is worse but Bituli hopefully will be back @BYU.
 
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BeardedVol said:
You think the personnel are the issue, rather than the poor coaching and practicing methods being employed by Will Friend and whomever else thought it would be a good idea to rotate olinemen into different positions?
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on will friend and the oline, this is where i agree with you. but all offseason, you and others were in the band blaming JG. now you clearly see he is not anywhere near at fault for the team's shortcoming. it is in the trenches and until all the guys butch brought in are out along with friend as oline coach.....and maybe even ricker as d line coach........we will continue to struggle!
 
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lexkyvol said:
on will friend and the oline, this is where i agree with you. but all offseason, you and others were in the band blaming JG. now you clearly see he is not anywhere near at fault for the team's shortcoming. it is in the trenches and until all the guys butch brought in are out along with friend as oline coach.....and maybe even ricker as d line coach........we will continue to struggle!
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In spite of the stupid oline rotation, JG got protection, he still held the ball for ages, and made poor QB decisions. It was the same last year, oline pass protection improved as the season progressed, JG's performance in the pocket did not. It's carried over into this season now as well.
 
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BeardedVol said:
This.

I don't understand how you ever expect to have a consistently performing oline with that sort of shuffling. Maybe you have two guys who you cross-train for injuries, but what other team shuffles the entire line on the regular?
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Pruitt really only had to look back to Jones' second year to see how going into game 1 undecided on your starting 5 works out.

I still like Pruitt. It is possible he figures out how to put the pieces back together. But he should be smarter than this.... WAY smarter.
 
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Friend makes around 300k more than GSU’s head coach. Couldn’t find any of the assistant salaries, but I’d say the entire staff’s combined income isn’t a lot more than what he makes.
 
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doctorchoice said:
The offensive linemen didn’t know who to block, the receivers ran the wrong routes. On defense nobody appeared to know who to cover or where to be. It took us til week 6 last year before our players knew what direction to go. BYU and Florida are going to brutalize us. Chattanooga is a toss-up.
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The OL didn't run block great. The protection was pretty good. JG... still holds the ball too long, doesn't make good reads, and doesn't pick up free rushers. The sack that caused the fumble was by a CB who was square up on the outside receiver at the snap. There was no one to pick him up. That is 100% QB responsibility. When it happens once... you learn and move on. It seems to be a rule with JG to miss free rushers in the heat of battle.
 
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Ohio Vol said:
In the last 20 years, the only time that this program has had a decent OL coach was the brief period of time under Dooley when Harry Hiestand was here.

I will never understand the idea of just shuffling offensive linemen among the various positions like it's a video game.
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Those guys were a lot better after we traded Heistand for Pittman. Probably had a better OL under James Cregg, too.
 
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We could have Sam Pittman but are stuck with Will Friend. Our moron of a head coach is using an assistant coaching position at Tennessee as a jobs program for his best man.
 
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BeardedVol said:
In spite of the stupid oline rotation, JG got protection, he still held the ball for ages, and made poor QB decisions. It was the same last year, oline pass protection improved as the season progressed, JG's performance in the pocket did not. It's carried over into this season now as well.
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i want some of what you are on.

Will Friend, is that you?
 
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whodatvol said:
It looked to me like no one has had contact except for in the locker rooms. Our guys fell before contact while it took 4 of our guys to get their kids on the ground. I didn’t see one tackle executed correctly. None of our guys looked like athletic football players except for Gray. Palmer catching that ball on his heels and just falling on his butt? WTH? You’re on scholarship to catch a ball and run. Another scared bust. Byrd? Still no where. Chandler? Mia. Jennings gets tripped one on one. None of Butch’s guys compete, just came for the swag
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I get tired of seeing Byrd si glee out on here in a negative way. He’s been doing what he’s supposed to every time he’s been asked. The coaches aren’t using him for anything but blocking, which he does better than anyone in the team. The coaches are the ones who aren’t playing him. I bet, given the chance, he’d be a top return guy and wish he got some targets too. Then, maybe we could criticize him.
 
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sjt18 said:
The OL didn't run block great. The protection was pretty good. JG... still holds the ball too long, doesn't make good reads, and doesn't pick up free rushers. The sack that caused the fumble was by a CB who was square up on the outside receiver at the snap. There was no one to pick him up. That is 100% QB responsibility. When it happens once... you learn and move on. It seems to be a rule with JG to miss free rushers in the heat of battle.
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so this helps the passing game how? i'll tell you how it hurts the passing game. under and over coverage. do you know what that causes? longer routes meaning longer developing plays meaning the qb has the ball longer. if teams don't have to worry about you being able to run between the tackles and off tackle, there's a lot they can cover up in ur passing game.
 
#68
#68
Our coordinators and coaches are good when they have solid head coach to work under. That's not the current situation.
 
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Honestly I never thought this line would be anything more than serviceable. They might be a year older and stronger but they just aren't very good other than Trey. The real talent is in the freshman class.
 
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Florida Orange said:
I get tired of seeing Byrd si glee out on here in a negative way. He’s been doing what he’s supposed to every time he’s been asked. The coaches aren’t using him for anything but blocking, which he does better than anyone in the team. The coaches are the ones who aren’t playing him. I bet, given the chance, he’d be a top return guy and wish he got some targets too. Then, maybe we could criticize him.
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Should have been singled out. Autocorrect picked up some Spanish somewhere.
 
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CAVPUT said:
Honestly I never thought this line would be anything more than serviceable. They might be a year older and stronger but they just aren't very good other than Trey. The real talent is in the freshman class.
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YES! Its time to get all the non-pruitt recruits thank you notes and bench them!
 
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lexkyvol said:
i want some of what you are on.

Will Friend, is that you?
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Go back and watch the WVU game, and then watch the Vandy game, and count the seconds after snap on pass plays. Also, read this at your leisure:

A deep dive into Jarrett Guarantano’s 2018 season using PFF data

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"Last season, Guarantano was sacked six times, per PFF, in under 2.5 seconds. That’s about in line with the other four guys, all of whom were sacked four times in the same scenario. Guarantano’s “average time to throw” was 2.35 seconds...Conversely, Guarantano really struggled when he held the ball for longer than 2.5 seconds...Of his 22 sacks last season, 16 came on plays where he was in the pocket for longer than 2.5 seconds. Two of his three interceptions came on such throws, too."
 
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macrovol said:
Also, JG clearly has an strong and accurate arm, but he has no clock in his head. Got to get better at feeling pressure. Not sure if this is coachable.
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At this point, I don't think it is. By that I mean if you're not showing sign of it after 3 years, it's probably not gonna happen.
 
#74
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jaxvol said:
It did look like we were in scrimmage mode. They were in game mode.

We came out with the attitude of keeping it vanilla and trying out a lot of players in different positions, and never could shift back to win the game.
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I though trying players out at different positions is called practice.
 
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Have to agree with most everything said here, and especially the poor line play on both side of the ball. In the second half it was almost comical to watch our defensive line rush, it looked like they were doing a waltz, may I have this dance? They were flat out pooped and absolutely no pressure on the qb at all.

Never saw a Tennessee team so down with not an ounce of fight left in them, pathetic really. How this experience of a staff allowed this to happen if unbelievable, and much of the blame goes Pruitt, he did nothing to change the momentum of the game and get that team fired up on the sidelines, like he didn't really care.

Really hard to take this kind of pounding again, year after year. I am just grateful that I got to experience the great years at Tennessee when coach Fulmer lead this once proud program that could play with anybody any day year after year. May not have one every game but it was a dog fight and exciting as hell to watch.
 
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